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Ugh. iPhone 4 was the first smartphone I ever bought. I tried a bunch of Android stuff first because at the time I was an Apple hater. Droid X was the last one I tried and it sealed the deal.....no way I was going to use Android every day.

You will love it when you make the switch.

I made the switch and found iOS to be extremely limiting, even when jailbroken. Went back to Android, but do use an iPad. My mom loves that iPhone though.
 
clearly you have not used many 4g phones- nor do you understand what the coverage is really like (outside of what vz is telling you).... LTE is still too new, there is no way else you can spin it.

Your statement makes no sense. Too new for what? Verizon is rolling out LTE at a rapid pace, but the important thing for me and most other users is, is it available where I live. At the rate that they are expanding, Verizon LTE will soon be more widespread than ATT 3G. I have it here in Montomery, AL and consistently get speeds over 20 Mbps with latency between 80 and 100. This was better than I was getting with my Charter cable connection that I pay the same price for and can only use at home. Don't try to spin it negative because either you don't have LTE in your area yet or your phone of choice won't offer it for over a year.
 
Why? If you can't refute a post with reason and logic, I'm not the one who should be pitied.

Apple's partners routinely don't have the full picture. They should research Apple to get as much info as possible. The fact that I knew more than the CEO of Verizon is shocking. That you think this idea of getting info from every available source is wrong tells me you might not know as much about the business world as you'd think.

your words are the only proof that I need to show that you have ZERO clue about how things work.

You DO NOT know more than the CEO of Verizon or Intel or anyone. You don't even know as much as the 10 year old in china who is manufacturing the next cases and the actual phone. Have you held the next iphone? I guarantee you this CEO has if it is going to be out in the next 12 months.
 
your words are the only proof that I need to show that you have ZERO clue about how things work.

You DO NOT know more than the CEO of Verizon or Intel or anyone. You don't even know as much as the 10 year old in china who is manufacturing the next cases and the actual phone. Have you held the next iphone? I guarantee you this CEO has if it is going to be out in the next 12 months.

I'm sure that's all true, but I'm merely going on the public words of the CEO who stated he thought the next iPhone was coming out this summer, something I knew was not going to happen. Spin that as the CEO was lying, if you wish, but based on his own words I knew more than he did.

You need to get a grip if this is an example of how you draw conclusions.
 
I'm sure that's all true, but I'm merely going on the public words of the CEO who stated he thought the next iPhone was coming out this summer, something I knew was not going to happen. Spin that as the CEO was lying, if you wish, but based on his own words I knew more than he did.

You need to get a grip if this is an example of how you draw conclusions.

When exactly did you "know" it was not coming out this summer? I bet it was not before him. He may have been under that impression in November or December before there was even an official launch that the 4 was on Verizon.
 
That's a good point. In his words he talks about since "January" expectations had changed. So as early as February he might have known, and thus my scorn might not be applicable to him as I originally thought.
 
I hope iPhone 5 supports 42.0 Mbps HSPA+ 4G.

That will be puh-lenty of speed to hold me over for two years until LTE has a broad coverage map and is reliable. Plus, Apple will have more time to get a battery efficient LTE chip in the phone.
 
It sounds as if Apple had originally said (or implied) last winter that there would be a summer update, with its accompanying sales boost... but that their usual plans got changed or delayed.

Perhaps Apple's original plan was to have almost no change in the iPhone for summer. Then, as Android sales ramped up, Apple changed their mind and decided they had to add more features.

That might explain why we've seen both types of rumors.
 
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It sounds as if Apple had originally said (or implied) last winter that there would be a summer update, with its accompanying sales boost... but that their usual plans got changed or delayed.

Perhaps Apple's original plan was to have almost no change in the iPhone for summer. Then, as Android sales ramped up, Apple changed their mind and decided they had to add more features.

That might explain why we've seen both types of rumors.
Or maybe Verizon did the same math that we did, after noticing a new iPhone was released in the June/July time frame every year? :shrug:

IMO, the one feature that Apple needs to add to the iPhone 5 is LTE support. Since vendor lock-in isn't an issue anymore, adding LTE would allow Apple to push the network support issues downstream to Verizon, AT&T, and the European wireless companies which, IMO, is where that discussion needs to happen in the first place.
 
I don't think we'll see LTE this year, from all rumors. LTE is the 2012 version.

And just like the original iPhone had no 3G, and the geeks said it meant doom, it just won't matter. By the time Apple has LTE, LTE will be ready for the masses (no, not you, the masses).
 
Stupid News

Yeah some of us expected a iphone 5 this summer, and some of us knew maybe fall. Its retarded when a ceo says "We think" or "we expect". Stupid news.
 
It sounds as if Apple had originally said (or implied) last winter that there would be a summer update, with its accompanying sales boost... but that their usual plans got changed or delayed.

Perhaps Apple's original plan was to have almost no change in the iPhone for summer. Then, as Android sales ramped up, Apple changed their mind and decided they had to add more features.

That might explain why we've seen both types of rumors.

It's an interesting question. One has to wonder whether the verizon iphone launch and then the white iphone launch were seen as ways to extend the life of the iphone 4.

Personally, I think the spacing of the iphone 5 is intentional. They want the iPad and iPhone perfectly spaced ~6 months apart to ease the demand spikes on their suppliers. They can also now update iphone and ipod touch in one fell swoop.
 
I can see the desire for 4G (other than bulk and battery-burning, which will be solved in time). Still, every other phone has much bigger deal-breakers:

* Fewer apps, but more importantly: lower-quality apps. Even those apps that do have Android versions are seldom as good.

* Poor battery life. Potentially "solveable" by manually managing processes and troubleshooting your apps to find out the hard way which ones you shouldn’t have downloaded. No, thanks.

* No retina display? I’ll never go back!

* Android devices are frequently abandoned by the manufacturer and/or carrier, and get no further updates. Now, no device lasts forever; but Android devices get obsolete way too fast.

* Fragmentation: it’s not just a problem for programmers, but for users, when big-name, important apps only work on certain selected models.

* No iCloud? Well, I don’t have it yet, either... but it’s coming, and nothing out there can offer what Apple is offering with iCloud.

* Malware apps. Compare the percentage of users impacted on Android vs. on iPhone.

* Where’s the integrated music store and synching? Where are the movies and TV shows? Android solutions for those are painful half-efforts compared to iTunes.

* No serious tablet companion with a serious library of tablet apps.

And the number one Android deal-breaker for me:

* No full backup/restore! When I replace my iPhone, everything down to the last custom setting and icon placement transfers over. Every song, every document, every high score, every password, every carefully-organized folder with an Emoji icon. On Android, a few things synch to the new device, but the rest is lost in the wind. Unacceptable.

I really hope (and believe) that someone will make a flavor of Android that solves all that, someday. For now, 4G LTE absolutely can’t make up for them.

For now, while Google TALKS in vague buzzword terms about giving me more things I can do with my phone, Apple actually does so! Android is still too limiting.

I hope my 2012 iPhone has 4G (I’m sure it will) but I also hope it doesn’t suffer the problems (bulk and battery drain) of current 4G phones.

Aside from being a high-level executive with the company or a hopeless job lover, I do not understand why someone would accept a large corporation as his or her religion.
 
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