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Does Wi-Fi calling require a newer device? I'm guessing it's not going to work on my iPhone 5.
iPhone 6 or above.

unless you have no service it sucks at least on att its just as bad as the microcell its takes forever to place a call and then you are lucky if they can hear you when they pickup I keep mine turned off this is my experience with wifi calling

That's not been my experience at all. To the contrary, the call quality seems better since it uses HD Voice when connecting with someone else on VoLTE.
 
Kinda lame that FCC thinks TTY is still around. It is obsolete device. Nobody uses it! I know because I'm deaf. Last time I used TTY was like 15 years ago. Nowadays, We uses videophone or FaceTime. Kinda sucks that the carriers like VZW or ATT offers unlimited minutes to the hearing people but not unlimited data to the deaf people for FaceTime usage. Big time discrimination there.
 
Verizon is probably the least important carrier to enable this, since their coverage map is so strong compared to the others.

Total load of crap. Their network is no better than anyone else's (except for Sprint) in most major cities. I just sold a house in a highly dense suburban neighborhood of Denver, and Verizon's signal was miserable at my house for the last 11 years. They refused to do anything about it, saying it was a "fringe" area. To be fair, everyone else had a bad signal there, also. But Verizon is the one touting the strongest network in America, and charging me a premium price for their vaunted network.

Don't be fooled. This will definitely be utilized by Verizon customers.
 
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But when you walk out of the wifi area the call drops! I had to run this off because of that.

I haven't tested it much, but the call is not supposed to drop if you leave WiFi and have LTE coverage and Voice Over LTE (VOLTE) turned on. Presumably this is because the VOIP session can be redirected as LTE data. Handing off to a conventional (non-VOIP) call doesn't work yet.
 
I haven't tested it much, but the call is not supposed to drop if you leave WiFi and have LTE coverage and Voice Over LTE (VOLTE) turned on. Presumably this is because the VOIP session can be redirected as LTE data. Handing off to a conventional (non-VOIP) call doesn't work yet.
If you have strong LTE service right outside the range of your Wi-Fi, you probably wouldn't even need Wi-Fi calling in the first place (unless you're trying to save minutes on your plan)

At home I get zero LTE and very spotty voice coverage since I'm out in the sticks, but I have excellent high speed internet. So if I'm on a Wi-Fi call, the minute I step out of Wi-Fi range there's no LTE to hand off to and the call will likely fail (we'll see, once Verizon rolls this out). So if this process is going to fail, that's probably the scenario most likely to cause it.
 
Right............ you keep on believing that. I know of so many places that have "Great" service and you can not hold a call to save your life. So in these places the wifi calling is going to be a boon. I also will no longer have a dead iPhone from straining to get service.

I recently switched back to Verizon from T-Mobile and I'm utterly appalled. It used to be amazing, solid coverage everywhere I went with lightning fast speeds. Now I still get solid coverage, but I kid you not I recently spent twenty minutes in a parking lot waiting for maps to load while it showed full bars and LTE. Verizon has great coverage but their network is beyond congested now. And no it's not just that area, in several places where I know it used to excel its really rather mediocre now, and this comes WITH higher prices and data caps. Wish I had stayed with t mobile.
 
Kinda lame that FCC thinks TTY is still around. It is obsolete device. Nobody uses it! I know because I'm deaf. Last time I used TTY was like 15 years ago. Nowadays, We uses videophone or FaceTime. Kinda sucks that the carriers like VZW or ATT offers unlimited minutes to the hearing people but not unlimited data to the deaf people for FaceTime usage. Big time discrimination there.
Out of curiosity, how do those services fit in when calling companies or organizations, for example?
 
Wait why do you need the FCC to enable wifi calling? Government overreach at its finest.

Because of 911. They have to get the go-ahead to use your billing address as the default location for 911 to go to if you call them on wifi calling, they can't determine your location, and your call is interrupted (as can happen in emergencies) before you tell them where you are. When you make a cellular phone call, they can pretty much always determine your location, but wifi calling doesn't guarantee this (I think this depends on the location settings on your phone).

At T-Mobile, at least, you can always make the emergency address different from the billing address if you need to, but it'll default to that.

EDIT: Along with the other things it said in the post, of course. :D I'm just a T-Mobile salesman, so I know that's something that we occasionally have to change in people's accounts, and it's because of wifi calling.
 
Because of 911. They have to get the go-ahead to use your billing address as the default location for 911 to go to if you call them on wifi calling, they can't determine your location, and your call is interrupted (as can happen in emergencies) before you tell them where you are. When you make a cellular phone call, they can pretty much always determine your location, but wifi calling doesn't guarantee this (I think this depends on the location settings on your phone).

At T-Mobile, at least, you can always make the emergency address different from the billing address if you need to, but it'll default to that.

EDIT: Along with the other things it said in the post, of course. :D I'm just a T-Mobile salesman, so I know that's something that we occasionally have to change in people's accounts, and it's because of wifi calling.



Hey Gang-

Check Verizon Message+ available in the App Store.
Looks like Wi-Fi calling is already enabled via 10/25 app update.
I haven't used it to make calls myself, but the app description implies this.

the messaging feature is pretty cool though.. using it on my iPad.
 
When you make a wifi call can it be any kind of device on the other side? Such as non-Verizon phone or a land line?
 
It's that first "C" in FCC.

Why do you care? Something new to complain about? Starbucks cups getting old already?
Huh? What does starbucks have to do with anything? Im not religious or conservative at all. I dont give a ---- about a snowman on a cup.

It's not government overreach. It's you not reading the article. Look for the term "waiver".
Its you not reading the article. The article clearly states necessary waiver.
 
Hey Gang-

Check Verizon Message+ available in the App Store.
Looks like Wi-Fi calling is already enabled via 10/25 app update.
I haven't used it to make calls myself, but the app description implies this.

the messaging feature is pretty cool though.. using it on my iPad.
It's just VoIP calling basically that Verizon offered recently via the Messages+ app, but it's not really WiFi calling per se.
 
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Out of curiosity, how do those services fit in when calling companies or organizations, for example?

We have Video Relay Services available to us. Sorenson, Convo, Purple, ZVRS for example. They provide sign language interpreters where we can see them through iPhone/Android like video conferencing. They all have their own apps for iOS/Androids. Sadly, those uses lot of data.
 
We have Video Relay Services available to us. Sorenson, Convo, Purple, ZVRS for example. They provide sign language interpreters where we can see them through iPhone/Android like video conferencing. They all have their own apps for iOS/Androids. Sadly, those uses lot of data.
Interesting. Good to know. I recall for example Verizon having a particular plan for hearing impaired--don't quite recall if it was unlimited data, but it was something leaning toward that vs. some sort of additional minutes or something like that. Not sure if it still exists though.
 
I recently switched back to Verizon from T-Mobile and I'm utterly appalled. It used to be amazing, solid coverage everywhere I went with lightning fast speeds. Now I still get solid coverage, but I kid you not I recently spent twenty minutes in a parking lot waiting for maps to load while it showed full bars and LTE. Verizon has great coverage but their network is beyond congested now. And no it's not just that area, in several places where I know it used to excel its really rather mediocre now, and this comes WITH higher prices and data caps. Wish I had stayed with t mobile.

Don't have to tell me about it. There are spots in town where i have full bars and i can not even send a iMessage. I wished i could leave them in the past. I have a sweet heart of a deal with them though i know one of the very few here. I would actually pay more for T-Mobile. Sadness
 
This is going to be huge in my apartment and at my parents' house. Like, a quality of life improvement. I've had to use FaceTime Audio for all my Apple friends, and stand by my window and not move for all my non-Apple friends. Does VoIP/VoLTE work between Verizon and others carriers yet, or do you still have to be on the same network?
 
Verizon is probably the least important carrier to enable this, since their coverage map is so strong compared to the others.

VZW coverage, like politics, is local. I live in an affluent Route 128 suburb and take the commuter rail to work in Boston. There is basically zero coverage where I live. There are very few spots on the train ride into/out of Boston where I get a usable signal. When I drive into Boston on the Mass. Turnpike there are places between the Route 128 tolls and downtown Boston where the signal drops. Wifi calling could make a difference on the train and it will make the difference between being able to make calls on the iPhone at home and basically having no voice service at home.
 
Interesting. Good to know. I recall for example Verizon having a particular plan for hearing impaired--don't quite recall if it was unlimited data, but it was something leaning toward that vs. some sort of additional minutes or something like that. Not sure if it still exists though.

They do exists. But only with 2gb or 5gb at $55 or $75. They are crap. 30 minutes of video conferencing/facetime burns through 1gb or more. Depends on the signal strength/picture quality. At this point, VZW and ATT wouldn't care. They just want the money. Sprint is only one that offers 100% unlimited data for deaf customers for $50.

Also, Please restrain from using the term, "Hearing Impaired". We go by Deaf or Hard of hearing. Our ears aren't broken. ;)
 
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Verizon doesn't really need this since they have the best coverage of any carrier for voice, but I could see this being useful in a basement or steel factory.
 
This will actually lead to them putting up LESS towers since they can just push people onto wifi. :(
 
That is ok tonight i could barely load a webpage on vzw. I am getting mighty sick of there subpar data service. This will at least keep my iPhone from being dead just sitting on my home office desk.
 
This will actually lead to them putting up LESS towers since they can just push people onto wifi. :(
If they cared about that they would have rolled out WiFi calling long ago. And then look at T-Mobile that has had WiFi calling for quite a while now and has only been expanding and improving their coverage. So, doesn't seem like one really causes the other.
 
Verizon doesn't really need this since they have the best coverage of any carrier for voice, but I could see this being useful in a basement or steel factory.
Best doesn't mean it's everywhere or couldn't be better.
 
WHAT!!!!???? :mad: Have I been in dreamland ................ I thought I already have it on the darn iPhone 6....S....., NOW a warning!! It's going to be in the "near future" o_O
 
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