Verizon giving away Samsung Nexus and Razor?

[lordofthereef]

So far, Nexus devices have been updated rather well IMO and if updates are a priority, they are the only choice for Android.

The biggest argument you are going to get from this saite, and which has already been made in this thread, at least once, is that iOS devices have shown three years or more of updates. To that I contest that key features are left out of the OS for performance issues (and of course to get you to still buy the next piece of hardware). Let's also not forget the fact that not everybody is keeping their device for three years time.

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They're probably looking to get rid of their RAZR stock since the Maxx has since come out.

I think this was a kick in the face to razer adopters. They get their brand new razer and less than six months later there is one with better battery life launched. I feel this is the sort of thing the average user finds upsetting. Apple did it right? Antenna problems? We will give you a bumper and not fix them until the NEXT iPhone.

 

[Rocko1]

Was going to get an iPhone 4s on Saturday, but after seeing this...I am not sure. If I get the offer it would be a hard choice. It would save me $200, but would I kick myself later?

http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2012/02/27/free-verizon-galaxy-nexus-droid-razr/?awesm=tnw.to_1DTT7&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_medium=Spreadus&utm_source=Twitter&utm_content=Verizon%20offering%20the%20Droid%20Razr%20or%20Galaxy%20Nexus%20for%20free%20to%20some%20customers

No one here can say what you will like. Go to the store and play with each for as much time as you can. The Nexus is the best Android phone available many would say. I would steer clear of Moto. You have to decide which OS you like better. You can always return the phone to Verizon for a $35 restocking fee within 14 days I believe.

 

[TG1]

I got a Razr (not for free, but for $49 on Wirefly) when I had to make the same decision. The deep hardware discount and the offer of twice the data (4 GB for the price of 2 GB) on Verizon was enough to get me into the Android camp for at least until iPhone 5 rolls in. I've had iPhones for the last four years but I'm very happy with the Razr. As many have said, each OS has its advantages and disadvantages. It is possible to like both!

 

[Consultant]

The nexus is a Google phone it's supported by Google. Why do you have to make it sound like its only at the mercy of Samsung that people gets updates?

Why don't you ask how original iPhone and 3g owners where they are getting updates now?


As for the two phones on sale it has no indication for how good they are. Its just what is on sale. Just like if your local market had steaks on sale you don't automatically think mad cow...

iphone vs. Android in terms of updates
http://obamapacman.com/2011/10/apple-iphone-vs-android-phones-sad-history-of-support/

 

[aztooh]

Anyone touting the iPhone 3G as getting 2 major updates needs smacked. Did you actually use the 3G on 4.x? If you did, you'll know that it was a big steaming pile of you know what. Sure, it got the update, but what's the point if becomes half useless because of lag and freezing?

Anyone saying the Nexus and Razr are "already old", and also have a 4S, should also be smacked. It was old the second it was announced.

Is any other phone running ICS (out of the box)? Not to mention, as others already have, it will continue to get updates and has the hardware to run the updates. I don't really know anything about the Razr, but as it was mentioned, is probably reduced because of the MAXX.

Coming to THIS forum to get an opinion of picking an iPhone or anything else is probably the worst idea you could have. Best idea? Go to the store and play with the devices yourself. See how they feel. See if you're happy with a few pages of app icons and an intrusive notification system or some more freedom w/Android. It's something you're going to use every day for 2 years, it's worth a few minutes of your time.

 

[cynics]

Updates are hit an miss with android which is what scares a lot of people. My gf's og droid got an os update in November I believe. That puts it on par with the 3GS.

Will it get ics? Definitely not because the hardware isn't powerful enough. And although it MIGHT work it would cripple the phone.

You can't look at android the same way you look at iOS. If you must compare the two then you can only compare the nexus device vs the latest iPhone or the one that came out at the same time. If you do that you'd see update routines are similar maybe even favoring the nexus. But even then it's an impossible comparison, if the nexus gets an update to fix a bug that obviously doesn't mean apple is behind cause it didn't have a bug you know?

The reason you can't compare to other non nexus devices is because a lot of time the manufacture will have already implemented that feature or bug fix. For example if Motorola had a camera from the lock screen then google builds it into an os update there is little reason for Motorola to hurry up and push the update. Most android users just want the highest version number and don't have a legitimate reason for wanting an update.

Everyone wants something for nothing. I'm happy with ios 5.0.1. My phone works great so I don't have a reason for needing apple to update my phone. If they want to give me some additional features I won't argue that either. But how many products do you by throughout the day and they get constantly upgraded at no additional cost?

 

[chakraj]

They want to get rid of the Razor and Nexus. These are now considered old.

One thing to consider. You may never see an OS update for either. You are unlikely to find quality accessories, like a case, for either one and they will likely break within 6 months. Can't begin to tell you how many Android based phones I see falling apart at work.

What? The RAZR may not see an update but the nexus is a google device so you are 100% wrong.

 

[Mac.World]

What? The RAZR may not see an update but the nexus is a google device so you are 100% wrong.

100%, huh? I have one word for you: Motorola.

I'm sure Google will give priority to Samsung over what will soon be their own phone line, right? I love your absolute certainty though. Still want to stick with 100%?

 

[chakraj]

Motorola will not change the upgrade path of the galaxy nexus. The only reason a nexus device gets removed from new updates is if it doesn't have the needed hardware.

 

[rjohnstone]

100%, huh? I have one word for you: Motorola.

I'm sure Google will give priority to Samsung over what will soon be their own phone line, right? I love your absolute certainty though. Still want to stick with 100%?

Google will have to keep their OS strategy and their Motorola investment separate or they will risk loosing vendors.

They know all to well that the instant a vendor thinks they're getting "sloppy seconds" from Google, they will jump ship.
Samsung already has Bada in the works as a fallback and they also make Windows Phones.
Google would be in a world of hurt right now if they lost Samsung.

 

[ChazUK]

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What? The RAZR may not see an update but the nexus is a google device so you are 100% wrong.

100%, huh? I have one word for you: Motorola.

I'm sure Google will give priority to Samsung over what will soon be their own phone line, right? I love your absolute certainty though. Still want to stick with 100%?

Word is, LG are courting Google for the next Nexus handset. That alongside the info from The Verge posted yesterday suggests that Google and Andy Rubin will not be interfering with Moto in any big way.

http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/2/2...g-firewall-between-android-and-motorola-after

Time will tell what happens.

 

[TheMacBookPro]

I think this was a kick in the face to razer adopters. They get their brand new razer and less than six months later there is one with better battery life launched. I feel this is the sort of thing the average user finds upsetting. Apple did it right? Antenna problems? We will give you a bumper and not fix them until the NEXT iPhone.

No arguments from me here- I'd be pretty upset if that happened.

Not that Apple's solution for antenna problems was that great- "You can keep your faulty phone, but look on the bright side: at least it isn't outdated yet!"

100%, huh? I have one word for you: Motorola.

I'm sure Google will give priority to Samsung over what will soon be their own phone line, right? I love your absolute certainty though. Still want to stick with 100%?

Your arrogance is unnecessary. You may not have been 100% wrong, but you were most definitely '100%' wrong when you stated that the Galaxy Nexus would not see another OS update.

Also- what's with the backtracking? First you state that the RAZR will likely never see an update, then now you say since Motorola is going to be Google's phone line soon it will probably get updates, even more than their Nexus series?

 

[LSUtigers03]

100%, huh? I have one word for you: Motorola.

I'm sure Google will give priority to Samsung over what will soon be their own phone line, right? I love your absolute certainty though. Still want to stick with 100%?

The Nexus line always gets updates and they get them first. So yes the Galaxy Nexus will without a doubt see updates.

 

[Mac.World]

No arguments from me here- I'd be pretty upset if that happened.

Not that Apple's solution for antenna problems was that great- "You can keep your faulty phone, but look on the bright side: at least it isn't outdated yet!"



Your arrogance is unnecessary. You may not have been 100% wrong, but you were most definitely '100%' wrong when you stated that the Galaxy Nexus would not see another OS update.

Also- what's with the backtracking? First you state that the RAZR will likely never see an update, then now you say since Motorola is going to be Google's phone line soon it will probably get updates, even more than their Nexus series?

Arrogance? He stated with 100% certainty that I was wrong. I call that arrogance.

My point was, nothing is certain when it comes to Android based devices. And not backtracking on the Razr. The Maxx is out, so the Razr is second fiddle. Will Google even bother with it?

 

[ninjaw95]

Was going to get an iPhone 4s on Saturday, but after seeing this...I am not sure. If I get the offer it would be a hard choice. It would save me $200, but would I kick myself later?

http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2012/02/27/free-verizon-galaxy-nexus-droid-razr/?awesm=tnw.to_1DTT7&utm_campaign=social%20media&utm_medium=Spreadus&utm_source=Twitter&utm_content=Verizon%20offering%20the%20Droid%20Razr%20or%20Galaxy%20Nexus%20for%20free%20to%20some%20customers

wow 200 off... your paying around 2k in the end cuz ur on the 2 yr contract

 

[ctbear]

My point was, nothing is certain when it comes to Android based devices. And not backtracking on the Razr. The Maxx is out, so the Razr is second fiddle. Will Google even bother with it?

Google will not bother because they didn't make the software for the Razr. Blame the manufacturers for slow updates and only buy the Nexus(es) for Android unless you are comfortable hacking your phone.
It is almost certain that the Razr and MAXX will at least receive ICS updates, but no guarantee after that.

 

[chakraj]

I just meant that the nexus will get an upgrade. That is 100% for sure.

 

[SamyJones]

I think that the battle in this segment have just began. Anyway, I am expecting higher quality from the iPhone 5. Galaxy Nexus don`t cover at all my preferences and the price is too much.

 

[TheMacBookPro]

Arrogance? He stated with 100% certainty that I was wrong. I call that arrogance.

My point was, nothing is certain when it comes to Android based devices. And not backtracking on the Razr. The Maxx is out, so the Razr is second fiddle. Will Google even bother with it?

So tell me- do you think the Razr will get updates or will it not get updates?

They want to get rid of the Razor and Nexus. These are now considered old.

One thing to consider. You may never see an OS update for either.

...then:

100%, huh? I have one word for you: Motorola.

I'm sure Google will give priority to Samsung over what will soon be their own phone line, right? I love your absolute certainty though. Still want to stick with 100%?

In your first post you seem to believe that neither the Nexus nor the Razr will ever see an OS update (which, for the latter, is possible, but certainly not for the former).

Then in your second post you say that since Motorola is going to be part of Google soon then Samsung will suddenly become lower priority than Motorola when it comes to receiving updates.

Oh and just for reference:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/27/2...g-firewall-between-android-and-motorola-after

"I don't even know anything about their products, I haven't seen anything," he (Andy Rubin) said. "They're going to continue building Motorola branded devices and it's going to be the same team doing it."

So it's clear now- Google bought Motorola solely for the patents. Moto are still going to be a separate company running separately from Google.

 

[murdoc158]

This is a good move to get people off of the 3G network and onto the 4G LTE network. Free's up 3G bandwidth for my iPhone 4S.

 

[cynics]

This is a good move to get people off of the 3G network and onto the 4G LTE network. Free's up 3G bandwidth for my iPhone 4S.

Until Verizon completely ditches their 3G for their LTE network. Be a while but they are getting there.

 

[cynics]

I think that the battle in this segment have just began. Anyway, I am expecting higher quality from the iPhone 5. Galaxy Nexus don`t cover at all my preferences and the price is too much.

Price is too much in a thread about them being free?

What preferences does it lack? Just curious.

 

[chakraj]

I guess free is a little pricey for him, Maybe if they give him some cash to use it he could afford that?


Somehow I think its going to be hard to get $850.00 for my used Nexus like I did for my used iPhone 4S 64 gig.