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The only way I could see this being a good plan is for some one who doesn't use data that much at all (1 GB shared amongst even 2 people is a small amount if you use your smartphone much at all) and calls a lot.

you mean my parents?
 
Tablets are $10 because they don't use voice minutes. Other plans are more to cover voice. The economy comes for users like me with two iPhones and two iPads. Combined we have 4.5 GB on independent plans, but we could drop to 2GB in this scenario. If overages on data are just charged at the higher tier, then months we are on the road more it is nice and easy.

That said, the data rates are way too high given the base charges. 1GB should be closer to $10 to offer value compared to ATTs family plans.
 
I'm currently paying over $180 per month to AT&T for unlimited data (~3-5GB throttle I guess?), unlimited texts, and limited minutes.

If we switched to Verizon, we would pay $180 for unlimited minutes, unlimited texts, and 10GB of LTE (if we switched to droids) speed data. And only $10 to add my iPad on there.

That's a pretty amazing savings. My iPad would have data! :D

Most people with ATT rollover do not need unlimited data. ATT gives you any mobile and if you talk to retentions they will give you 10 home lines you can call for free also.

I have 4 lines with ATT (3 unlimited data) plus unlimited text 700 minute voice plan with any mobile and 10 A-list I can call.. 1 feature phone. My total (including taxes) with 24% discount is $175 every month.

That's taxes included.

So if you call landlines a lot, than Verizon may be a better deal. But rollover with ATT helps 99% of people these days unless you run a business.
 
Time For AT&T to step up to the plate!

When I read that this is the image that pops into my head:

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Lol, WTF hope AT&T does a better job with this. I would lose unlimited data on my iPhone and iPad and still pay more.
 
Part of me knew this was a possibility, but I was hoping with shared data they would just drop the whole minutes and text scam and just come out and charge sustainable rates for data. At the moment they're basically pricing their data at $10. When everything is data in the future and people can switch to wifi for a lot of stuff, will that be able to sustain them?


I was honestly just hoping for a reasonable way to share data between the phone and iPad. I don't even use 1GB a month as it is. :(
 
StraightTalk = $50 per month (including taxes) for my iPhone. Only thing not enabled is MMS so I eMail the photos). If you jailbreak the phone there's a way of enabling MMS but the service is fine (using AT&T's network).

Of course, I don't pig out with multiple GBs of data so you data hogs may not like this.
 
Why is it $40 for a smartphone and only $10 for a tablet? I'd expect the tablet to use more data.

Oh, right. Because they can. Everyone needs data on their smartphone, not everyone needs data on their tablet. Especially since tethering is included.

I wonder if I can just activate data on my iPad and tether my phone to it? Stupid solution to a problem that shouldn't exist, but I'd be saving $30/month.

I would actually venture to guess that this is because they will still be subsidizing the cost of smartphones, whereas they do not (and likely still will not) do so with tablets.
 
Uh, the new plan if you are just sharing with two people would be 150 dollars for you and you'd only get a 1 GB of data. THat is if your wife and your kid get dumbphones (30 each, so 60 dollars), you get a smartphone (40 dollars), and you get the smallest plan (50 dollars). And you already said you don't even use the 700 minutes you guys have so the unlimited calling wouldn't really be an extra for you.

How in the world is that a better deal for you?

Oh, and by the way, that 40 dollars extra you say you'd pay (you would get 8 GB more if yu don't add another device)? Within a year you'd pay 480 dollars extra. Two years 960 extra... so depending on what plan you went with if you just bought your own smartphone, it could easily be cheaper just to buy your own smartphone long as the plan you got by doing that wasn't more expensive than the one you have now, even a little more could be worth it (That is if you had an unlimited you could get them to grandfather in).

My wife and daughter have been wanting iPhones for a long time.

Old plan: $150 for 3GB for one device, iPhone for one user, no tethering. It would be $40 more to give them each an iPhone with a terrible 300 MB cap. $60 more to get them phones with a 3GB cap. Add another $20 (each) on top to enable tethering (without having to jailbreak). I could end up spending $270 to get us all iPhones with tethering and decent caps!

New plan: $190 for 4GB we can ALL use, iPhone for ALL of us, and tethering for ALL of us - so we can get all of our tablets and other devices online when we travel.

That's still a $40 increase over our existing $150 plan, but we'd get so much more than before.
 
We have a family of 3 and have the minimum minutes for family under at&t... 550 minutes.
Between the 3 of us, including a 15-year-old girl, we use less than 50 minutes/month.
If I could start from scratch, I'd seriously consider a cheapo pre-paid voice-only phones (i.e. sub dumb-phone) and have a 4G iPad for each of us with a 2-gig plan each... actually my wife could get by the 256M plan.
 
People, please stop comparing these plans to your current unlimited plans. If you need unlimited data, hold on to your grandfathered plans. If you compare these plans to current data-capped plans and have multiple devices, this seems like a good plan to me.

My current plan is:
ATT
1400 minutes - $80
Family messaging - $30
Line 1 - Unlimited data - $30
Line 2 - $9.99 plus $25 for 2 GB
$175 bucks. I've avoided an iPad because I don't want to pay $30 for 3 gigs I may or may not use (plus AT&T doesn't have LTE where I live)

VZ shared plan
6 gigs - $80
iPhone 1 - $40
iPhone 2 - $40
Unlimited voice and messaging
$160. Tethering is INCLUDED so I can tether my Wifi ipad without the need for jailbreaking/getting caught or paying extra. With my usage, I highly doubt I will need all 6 gigs (my wife doesn't near approach her 2 ever).
If I ever wanted to get a cellular iPad, then it's only $10 more!

When LTE iPhone comes out, I may switch.
 
I love that it's $10 for 2 GB if you purchase it up front, but if you're on a lower plan and go over on data, they'll hit you $15 per GB!! Not only does the plan itself suck, but they can't even charge a fair rate for overage.............

They have to do that if they want to retain their current structure of paying for a big bucket that you may not use (and they count on most people using it). If it were the same price for extra data (or less) everyone would take the small plan.

I realize that's basically the prepaid model, and that has a lot of merit. But that's a different model that they're not using for this.
 
I guess what's missing from people's replies is their actual data usage.

Right now on ATT we have 2 iPhones and 2 iPads with a combined data allowance of 11GB. We have the basic family plan as we barely make phone calls so we're sitting pretty around $180/month.

Under the Verizon plan we would be at $200/month and actually be 1GB down but in reality we don't use anywhere near 11GB/month (5GB is probably more realistic) but due to the current options you're forced to buy far more data that you actually need!

I could do 2 phones and 2 tablets with 6GB data shared on Verizon for $180/month. Alternatively I could drop the 2 iPads and let them access the web via iPhone hotspots and save $20/month...

All that said with this plan Verizon are ultimately looking to charge more for less even though for most users the 'less' is still more than enough!
 
OK, I just spoke with a VZW rep regarding the corporate discounts. According to this person (grain of salt disclaimer) the corporate discounts will apply to the access charges ONLY and not the data plan. But I was told it would apply to all lines and not just the primary. If this is the case then this new plan will actually save me about $20/month as we are not heavy data users.
 
Apple, MS and Google need to have a serious conversation with Verizon and AT&T.

This type of crap is making me think twice about purchasing a new smart phone ever again. The benefit of having one is not going to be worth the price of admission
 
So, the Monthly Account Access is the base price, then the charge per device is the monthly line access?

So, for 1gb, $50, period.
Then $40 for each smartphone?

We currently have 4 phones (3 smartphones) sharing 1400 minutes. Two have texting, two have unlimited data, one has 200mb.

For the EXACT SAME PRICE we're paying now, we would get texting added to all lines, we already have more minutes than we need, and our shared data would drop to 1gb.

No thanks. This is WAY too expensive to be desirable for me.
 
So are these the only plans verizon is going to offer now? Because if so the only reason to go to Verizon is if you mostly just call an you barely use your smartphone for the "smart" part or just have a dumb phone.
 
Not impress with the pricing. With the facetime over celluar, Verizon plan is nothing but rip off!!!

I am predicting ATT will most likely be a ripoff too!!! (ATT please prove me wrong)
 
I'm currently paying $198/month ($175 plus taxes and fees) for two iPhones (unlimited, we use ~1.5 gb combined) and dumb phone with a family share 1000 minutes (we use about 200/month) 1000 texts on the iPhones and unlimited texting on the dumb phone. This new plan would cost us $110 for access and $60 for the data/voice/text package, or $170. So we'd actually save about $5/month. I've promised my daughter she could have my iphone this fall when I upgrade so that would've been an additional $30 for 2gb of data, or $205 plus fees per month. On the new plan it will be an additional $10 for the iphone and we'd probably go to the 6gb plan, so another $20 for a grand total of $200/month before fees. We would still be saving $5/month. The key for me is going to be how corporate discounts are applied. If they are applied to the access fee AND the data package then I'm going to be doing pretty good.

...doing pretty good as long as your data usage remains constant and you keep an eye on it.
 
Not impress with the pricing. With the facetime over celluar, Verizon plan is nothing but rip off!!!

I am predicting ATT will most likely be a ripoff too!!! (ATT please prove me wrong)

It will be within $5 of Verizon with the difference being a GB more or less data at one of the upper tiers.
 
AT&T Plan vs. This one...

I currently have 5 users on AT&T:
700 Minutes shared: $60
Unlimited Texting: $30
2x iPhones w/ 2GB data $10 + ($30 x 2) = $70
2x iPhones w/ 200MB data: ($10 + $15) x 2 = $50
1x "dumb" phone with unlimited data: $10 + $10 = $20
Total: $230 + ~$20 taxes/fees ~ $250

Under this plan:

4x smart phones: $160
1x dumb phone: $30
4GB data: $70
Total: $260 + taxes/fees

Even with minimal data, this is not a savings!
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Most people with ATT rollover do not need unlimited data. ATT gives you any mobile and if you talk to retentions they will give you 10 home lines you can call for free also.

I have 4 lines with ATT (3 unlimited data) plus unlimited text 700 minute voice plan with any mobile and 10 A-list I can call.. 1 feature phone. My total (including taxes) with 24% discount is $175 every month.

That's taxes included.

So if you call landlines a lot, than Verizon may be a better deal. But rollover with ATT helps 99% of people these days unless you run a business.

I have a discount for Verizon or AT&T at work, neither of which I have used yet. I just haven't decided which one I want to stay with.

I agree on the dubious unlimited talk benefit. I have about 3000 rollover minutes that I haven't used. Even with work, the company gave me a blackberry on Verizon so I didn't have to use my minutes. Still, to have the feature of unlimited minutes, you'd pay more on AT&T. And if I had unlimited minutes on my own phone, I wouldn't have to dual wield.

The big savings for me is being able to get my iPad on the same plan with a huuuuge amount of data. Given my current data usage, which is about 250 - 350MB per month on our two iPhones, if I had the 8 or 10GB plan with my iPad added for $10, that gives me plenty of data to use it as my primary mobile web/music/data device. It also opens the door for multiple Verizon data iPads without massive expense.

Just giving my Verizon iPad 10GB of data is $80 a month. So, with the 8GB plan I'd pay about what I'm paying now, but my iPad would have approximately 7.5GB of data per month. There's also the free tethering for my phone to consider as well.

I think for people with Verizon LTE iPads this plan makes great sense as its just $10 to get a reasonable amount of data for phone and iPad shared.

Maybe I'm a special case? I feel like I should always have LTE available with my iPad and I just can't justify the expense of a secondary data plan.
 
Doesn't seem much better. Family plan now is $119 for two devices plus $10 each line and $30 for 2gb.
 
It's worse than I expected. My current 5 phone plan is $180/month, before discount. Includes one unlimited data and unlimited texts. This new mess would be $160/month without data. And at this point I'd probably need to get the 6GB plan. Charging this much for unlimited calls is just worthless. They must believe we're all idiots. Probably way too many people are.
 
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