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Right now with AT&T our bill is $140 and the wife and I have unlimited data, my daughter only has 200MB but that's OK, she is only twelve and even under our shared minutes of 700, we have plenty to go around with free weekends and mobile to mobile.

A 12 year old with a smart phone? I must be really out of touch with kids, because I'm 28 and don't even have a smartphone with a data plan because it's just too expensive. But that's just me, to each their own.

I don't really see who this shared data plan is designed for. A family of 10 that all have smart phones, but never actually use the data so they can all share a gigabyte?
 
This would save me money in the long run. I am paying 90 bucks a months anyways for 3 iPhones and would love to add my iPad onto the plan
 
I think the savings is going to come from those families with iPads and other devices vs. those with just phones. We get a 20% from where DH works on his line. Right now we are paying around $220/month for phones (including hot spots for both iPhones) and $65 for data for two iPads. Under the new program we will be paying:

$32.00 for iPhone #1
$40.00 for iPhone #2
$30.00 for dummy phone
$10.00 for iPad #1
$10.00 for iPad #2
$100.00 for 10 gb of data
Total: $232 plus say $20 for taxes - $252 savings of at least $30/month for us

We both currently have unlimited data on the iPhones and neither of us use more than 1.5 gb as we are usually somewhere with free WiFi. We both use around 2gb of data on our iPads so we will have more data this way for less.
 
The device charge is discriminating products. Charging $40 just to have one smartphone(even a low-end device) on the family plan is an absolute dump on the customer. On AT&T it's a $10 charge per 'line'[device] on the family plan. No matter what device you're adding everything uses a flat rate.

No I it figured out what their strategy is:
1. Dump all device subsidy accounting into voice/sms. That is why the smartphone charge is higher than the dumbphone. Because an iPhone costs them $500-$600 and a ***** samsung or LG throwaway probably $100-$200. In fact this should push dumbphone customers to smartphones quicker, because they are getting screwed the hardest.
2. Begin the transition to data as a utility: pay by the GB, and at a higher rate. Not only that, they can increase that fee at some point because data is a paid 'feature' and the subsidy is being recouped in the access line charge.
3. Scorch the earth for all competitors, especially prepaid, by suddenly devaluing the per minute or per sms charges. Now everyone will think it should be unlimited, and any provider trying to charge by the minute will look like a nickel-n-dimer.
 
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Yea definitely did the right thing moving to Sprint, and will move to Virgin/ StraightTalk / Cricket once the new iPhone is introduced. Yes, I will break my contract and sell the 4s. Believe it or not, breaking your contract is cheaper than actually following through with it.
 
How to get out of Verizon contract?

Anyone know how to get out of Verizon contract? I'm done. I'm taking my business (and talent) to AT&T.
 
If I got decent Sprint signal at the house I'd already be using Ting (I already use their 4G MyFi when traveling and dumped tethering for my iPhone w/ AT&T).

It's going to be hard to resist re-upping my AT&T contract for the iPhone5, but I'm spending 2-3x more w/ AT&T than I would by going pre-paid.
 
Ok, I should've said get out of contract without paying for ETF fee. :rolleyes:

This only affects you when you're off you're pretty much off your ETF anyways and looking to upgrade. Otherwise stay on your current plan, nothing changed so you can't get out of the ETF.
 
Verizon is still heavily overpriced, and offers like these are of interest only for very few people.

The usual rip-offs like paying extra for texting and $30 for a reasonable data package just pulls way too much out of our pockets just for having a smart phone.
 
They also announced Data-Only plans which I think will work out nicely for me!!

I have an LTE iPad and my wife carries around a mobile hotspot.

http://solutions.vzwshop.com/shareeverything/pdf/verizon_share_everything_plan_details.pdf

So with a data only plan (for netbooks, tablets, other data only devices) you can get 10GB of data for $60. But if you get a plan for your iPhone, 10GB of data costs $100. You'd be paying $40 per phone as opposed to $10 or $20 per data only device (which should cover the unlimited minutes/texting) and yet the data is still almost twice as expensive. Interesting.
 
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And furthermore, how does a new contract option make your existing one so odious?

I was making fun of Lebron's infamous decision. "I'm taking my talent to " - ah nevermind, poor joke :D

I get 25% off entire AT&T bill vs only 20% off primary line on Verizon. And so the AT&T bill is ~$30/month cheaper compare to Verzion. The only reason I stayed with Verizon was the unlimited data on the primary line... Stupid reason but I thought I would be grandfathered in.
 
I guess I'm gonna upgrade my wife's iPhone to a 4Gs, there's no sense holding onto the upgrade for the iPhone 5 now.
 
Anyone know how to get out of Verizon contract? I'm done. I'm taking my business (and talent) to AT&T.

you cant get out of your contract over this without paying your etf. their not forcing you to switch until your contract is up -AND- you buy a subsidized phone. if you buy a phone outright from now on, youll be ok until they decide otherwise. while this deal sucks for the majority of us, it doesnt currently affect anyone on contract. so theres no real use whining over it until it does affect us.

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I guess I'm gonna upgrade my wife's iPhone to a 4Gs, there's no sense holding onto the upgrade for the iPhone 5 now.

thats what i did two weeks ago. got a razr maxx, and locked in my contract for two more years with unlimited data. the phone is meh...but the battery life is excellent. im still going to sell it after i buy the new iphone this fall...
 
thats what i did two weeks ago. got a razr maxx, and locked in my contract for two more years with unlimited data. the phone is meh...but the battery life is excellent. im still going to sell it after i buy the new iphone this fall...

I thought you couldn't do that anymore. I was under the impression if they subsidized equipment you lost unlimited. Is that wrong?

EDIT: Even before this new plan was announced.
 
So with a data only plan (for netbooks, tablets, other data only devices) you can get 10GB of data for $60. But if you get a plan for your iPhone, 10GB of data costs $100. You'd be paying $40 per phone as opposed to $10 or $20 per data only device (which should cover the unlimited minutes/texting) and yet the data is still almost twice as expensive. Interesting.

You still have to pay the device access fee so even though $60 for the data, you have to pay $10 for the tablet and/or $20 additional if you have a mobile hotspot.
 
Well, I'm officially disgusted. This would cost us MORE for LESS data (if we currently had data).

Currently, my wife and I have two phones with the lowest voice minutes we can (and never face any inadequacy there), and no texting plan, opting to just pay-per-text. In addition, I have an iPad which, when I do activate data I only use the $15/250MB per month, and have never used it up in the month. If we were to add 3GB of data per line, out total monthly bill to around $145.

By comparison, to get close to this, say 4GB shared across all three devices, in this new "share everything" plan, would cost $160. Heck, even 1GB shared adds up to $140 per month, only slightly less than we would be paying. And there the proper comparison would be to having the 300MB per line plans, making the monthly total $125 vs. $140.

No matter how you cut it, this is just a disgusting money grab. There is no value here...
 
You still have to pay the device access fee so even though $60 for the data, you have to pay $10 for the tablet and/or $20 additional if you have a mobile hotspot.

I understand that...in fact, I stated that in my post. In either case you're paying a per device access fee...$40 for an iPhone, $10 or $20 for a data-only device.

So why is the data almost twice as expensive if you're using it on an iPhone than it is if you're using it on a different data-only device? You're paying a higher access fee for the iPhone, presumably to cover the cost of the voice and messaging plan. So shouldn't the data cost be the same? Instead it costs $70 for 4GB on a phone plan, but only $30 for 4GB on a data-only plan. At 10GB it's 100 for a phone plan, $60 for a data-only plan. You get the same amount of data with either plan; why is it so much more expensive if you use it on a phone?
 
I thought you couldn't do that anymore. I was under the impression if they subsidized equipment you lost unlimited. Is that wrong?

EDIT: Even before this new plan was announced.

i cant vouch for if you go out and try to do it today, with this announcement, but it wasnt a problem at all two weeks ago. razr maxx cost me $149, ($199 subsidized - $50 verizon loyalty = $149).

imo, upgrading to a droid was the best way to go about it for me. some forum users here convinced me to go droid razr maxx because the battery life should help resale for me. droid os has improved since i last used it 2 years ago, but i do miss my iphone and will be buying the new one outright this fall. but the battery in the maxx lasts longer than my iphones ever did, it should considering is 2x+ the size!
 
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