I am actually Canadian so it makes zero difference to me, but I can almost guarantee that the Apple Store will still handle issues the way they do now with AT&T iPhones.
However, we'll have to wait and see to be sure!
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Verizon iPhone Flaws Revealed
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I am actually Canadian so it makes zero difference to me, but I can almost guarantee that the Apple Store will still handle issues the way they do now with AT&T iPhones.
However, we'll have to wait and see to be sure!
"Meanwhile, the iPhones lack of a raised keyboard makes it next to impossible to do serious e-mailing. And users have to worry constantly about battery life; if theyre not judicious, the iPhones battery can be drained by noon."
um...no. The battery life is actually better than most smartphones, and many people find the keyboard not only superior to a physical one, but faster and more reliable. I haven't seen an article more full of lies in a long time. The statement about the baby monitor app clogging up the network is just absurd...the baby monitor won't hook up to verizons (or att's) network, so obviously wifi will be around, and thats what the phone will be using too. The article also implies that android was created to mimic the iPhone software. And that you can't have iPhones serviced at ATT stores...and assumes that verizon customers will take faulty phones to verizon stores not apple stores...all wrong
I wouldn't believe a word of this article if I were you.
um...no. The battery life is actually better than most smartphones, and many people find the keyboard not only superior to a physical one, but faster and more reliable. I haven't seen an article more full of lies in a long time. The statement about the baby monitor app clogging up the network is just absurd...the baby monitor won't hook up to verizons (or att's) network, so obviously wifi will be around, and thats what the phone will be using too. The article also implies that android was created to mimic the iPhone software. And that you can't have iPhones serviced at ATT stores...and assumes that verizon customers will take faulty phones to verizon stores not apple stores...all wrong
I wouldn't believe a word of this article if I were you.
And why wouldn't they? I don't know where the argument that Apple Stores won't deal with Verizon iPhones is coming from, but it's insane.
OTOH, in Canada if you buy a phone from a Bell Store, you have to go back to the Bell Store that you bought it from in order to get any sort of service. That's just insane.
I took that passage as implying that verizon will have supreior customer service to apple, and so they will want to go there instead. I doubt you just plain wont be able to go to the genius bar for it
It came from that article if you cared to read it. Verizon wants more control of what customers do with their phones and is why they didnt sign up with Apple in the first place. Now they seem to ave more control.
Its in the article,read before you comment.
No - what he meant is that he didn't know where the author got that idea in the first place. He obviously read the article
That thing was one of the most blatant loads of ******** I've ever seen. Packed full of lies. iPhones work perfectly in the UK and in Canada, and never drop a call. I can vouch for that. Obviously it's the carrier, not the phone. Lack of a physical keyboard? Well, look, I'm typing on a touchscreen keyboard on my iPad right now and I'm perfectly happy. Why should the iPhone keyboard be any lower quality than any other? Physical keyboards are old style. XD
Battery life is excellent since the iPhone 4. I can agree that the battery on the iphone 3G was a bit lackluster. More evidence to the fact that he just copied and pasted the first half of that article from a few years ago. Has this fellow actually tried an iPhone 4?
Um, it says right in the article that he asked a Verizon spokesperson. Obviously he didnt read it. Seems some in here only want to see the article as some bashing instead of taking it as objective. I myself dont really care. I have no invested interest either way. Like i said before, i dont have Verizon and never will. He writer did say some good things about iPhone itself.
Why I would still buy the iPhone
Article states that the phone has flaws... where?
Put a BlackBerry Storm (or whichever) to the left, an Android in the middle, an iPhone to the right. Place your arm across the three devices on top of their headset speakers and see which ones screen goes out the fastest using the proximity sensor. Turns out the iPhone wins. Do the reverse, the iPhone wins.
Why does that matter?
When you make calls - that is, if you're in the corporate world and have a job like me where many times you're required to dial in an extension or some number - you need a phone to "not freeze" on you when you take it off the ear. BlackBerry's are the worst - they take over 6 seconds to come out of the lock screen, Android took an average of 2.5 seconds for me, the iPhone took an average of .87 for me. I ran 10 tries. Why did I run these tries? Prior to doing so, I ended up having a disconnected call (some were very crucial) while using my BlackBerry. On my Droid Incredible - it happened twice because the other party ran out of patience.
The author clearly mentioned the idea of dropped calls - did someone fail to realize that the calls being dropped might have to do something with ATT? At the same time, he mentioned his son wants the iPhone... why? Just 'cause. Is the world an idiot or is his son?
Here are a couple reasons to why I want the iPhone and why I am getting it:
1. I do not care if there isn't a hard keyboard. Unlike some phonies out there - I can adjust myself and have adjusted to the iPad, Droid incredible, BlackBerry Storm 2, iPod Touch, LG Dare (the worst touch screen ever) and unfortunately the BlackBerry Storm 1 (the worst phone ever).
2. The phone works. I can quit an application without having to pull out the battery (BlackBerry) or force exit (Android) when, and 'when' here refers to about 2 times every 6 hours for the BlackBerry and once a day for Android, they end up freezing.
3. 300,000 Apps. If someone, in this case the author of the article, were to really find some flaws and publish them through the misuse of their work and his/her companies resources, they could do so very feasibly. The author did that. He took NY Times reach and published what the world calls as "crap." With 300,000 apps - I use about 20. Out of those 20, 18 or 19 (this is a rough estimate) are productivity apps which allow me to not only open up RFP's and respond to my team with a proposal and/or annotated comments but also allow me to submit reports. The others offer stock practices, hourly news and podcasts and so on.
Why am I writing this on MR? I have no intention to prove the author wrong or as an idiot. Everyone is entitled to their views; therefore, being in an iPhone community here at MR - I'd like to hear feedback from people of their experiences with other phones compared to the iPhone. Sharing of what apps make your iPhone productive would also be appreciated.
--SR
Article states that the phone has flaws... where?
Put a BlackBerry Storm (or whichever) to the left, an Android in the middle, an iPhone to the right. Place your arm across the three devices on top of their headset speakers and see which ones screen goes out the fastest using the proximity sensor. Turns out the iPhone wins. Do the reverse, the iPhone wins.
Why does that matter?
When you make calls - that is, if you're in the corporate world and have a job like me where many times you're required to dial in an extension or some number - you need a phone to "not freeze" on you when you take it off the ear. BlackBerry's are the worst - they take over 6 seconds to come out of the lock screen, Android took an average of 2.5 seconds for me, the iPhone took an average of .87 for me. I ran 10 tries. Why did I run these tries? Prior to doing so, I ended up having a disconnected call (some were very crucial) while using my BlackBerry. On my Droid Incredible - it happened twice because the other party ran out of patience.
The author clearly mentioned the idea of dropped calls - did someone fail to realize that the calls being dropped might have to do something with ATT? At the same time, he mentioned his son wants the iPhone... why? Just 'cause. Is the world an idiot or is his son?
Here are a couple reasons to why I want the iPhone and why I am getting it:
1. I do not care if there isn't a hard keyboard. Unlike some phonies out there - I can adjust myself and have adjusted to the iPad, Droid incredible, BlackBerry Storm 2, iPod Touch, LG Dare (the worst touch screen ever) and unfortunately the BlackBerry Storm 1 (the worst phone ever).
2. The phone works. I can quit an application without having to pull out the battery (BlackBerry) or force exit (Android) when, and 'when' here refers to about 2 times every 6 hours for the BlackBerry and once a day for Android, they end up freezing.
3. 300,000 Apps. If someone, in this case the author of the article, were to really find some flaws and publish them through the misuse of their work and his/her companies resources, they could do so very feasibly. The author did that. He took NY Times reach and published what the world calls as "crap." With 300,000 apps - I use about 20. Out of those 20, 18 or 19 (this is a rough estimate) are productivity apps which allow me to not only open up RFP's and respond to my team with a proposal and/or annotated comments but also allow me to submit reports. The others offer stock practices, hourly news and podcasts and so on.
Why am I writing this on MR? I have no intention to prove the author wrong or as an idiot. Everyone is entitled to their views; therefore, being in an iPhone community here at MR - I'd like to hear feedback from people of their experiences with other phones compared to the iPhone. Sharing of what apps make your iPhone productive would also be appreciated.
--SR
article was absurd. Whenever I read articles like this im tempted to email the author but then I realize he cant really be this stupid and is just writing this to get a reaction. So then I dont want to give them what they want.
Score one for reading comprehension.
What the article says is this:
Note that it's paraphrased, not quoted, from the Verizon spokesperson. I'll wager what she actually said was that Verizon would prefer their customers bring their phone to a Verizon store rather than an Apple store. That's not unreasonable: when I was having trouble with my iPhone 3G, I called Rogers, not Apple, and they arranged for a replacement.
But I'll be downright shocked if Apple Stores start turning away Verizon iPhone customers and telling them they can't support them. That would make absolutely no sense.
Never had dropped calls here in Australia on the Optus network (second biggest provider here) unless I run out of coverage, so I wouldn't say there's anything wrong with the baseband!
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This is exactly what I was thinking as I skimmed through the text. Strange article.
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This is exactly what I was thinking as I skimmed through the text. Strange article.
That article had a lot of flaws. One that jumped at me was:
"Verizon Wireless could have snagged the original iPhone contract four years ago, but it passed. It did so not because of the iPhone’s flaws, which were then unknown, but because Apple was insisting on terms that it could not accept. These included a guaranteed subsidy for the phone..."
That's totally backwards. Apple did not allow a visible subsidy to the customer on the first iPhone. (Apple took the sales profit plus the monthly subsidy stipend for themselves, using the phrase "revenue sharing".)
After one year, the revenue sharing stopped and ATT signed a new contract allowing them to give customers the subsidy.
So if anything, it would've been that Verizon didn't want to cut their customers out of their subsidy.
"Verizon Wireless could have snagged the original iPhone contract four years ago, but it passed. It did so not because of the iPhone’s flaws, which were then unknown, but because Apple was insisting on terms that it could not accept. These included a guaranteed subsidy for the phone..."
That's totally backwards. Apple did not allow a visible subsidy to the customer on the first iPhone. (Apple took the sales profit plus the monthly subsidy stipend for themselves, using the phrase "revenue sharing".)
After one year, the revenue sharing stopped and ATT signed a new contract allowing them to give customers the subsidy.
So if anything, it would've been that Verizon didn't want to cut their customers out of their subsidy.
The article is pure horse puck.
Have had my iP4 since launch in June here in Ireland.
zero dropped calls, no "death grip" issue and the battery last for a good while.
Have had my iP4 since launch in June here in Ireland.
zero dropped calls, no "death grip" issue and the battery last for a good while.
That's just it, it isn't objective, the amount of exaggeration, hyperbole and the lack of sources ruins the article on that.
The counter argument to this particular point is that AT&T tells you to bring your phone to AT&T for service. Doesn't mean people are required to. If you want to know Apple's policies, you talk to Apple, not Verizon. Verizon can and will only speak to their own policies which are "bring it to us", just like AT&T does. What this author did was paraphrase this, spin it with his own bias on the subject, and write that bias into the article.
If he was being objective, we would have quoted the spokesperson, at the very least. This guy also went onto NPR spouting the same stuff with the same lack of sources for any of it.
Yeah, apparently this guy missed the memo that was put out by VERIZON ITSELF about how they REALLY wanted the iPhone 4 years ago, but Apple said nay.
Yup. GF was playing Angry Birds on my phone yesterday around 5:00 PM and was surprised to see my battery still at 70% despite medium usage (and her playing AB). Her first and only experience with an Android based phone was the MyTouch 4G on TMO and her battery was dying by noon.