Verizon iPhone would be great for AT&T iPhone users!!

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by djuarez03, Dec 18, 2009.

  1. djuarez03 macrumors regular

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    Think about it. The truth is, AT&T's network is pretty much being choked every day with the mass amount of traffic iPhone owners consume. But many current AT&T iPhone users are former VZW customers who jumped shipped in order to get in on the iPhone action. Many of those same customers would probably jump back to VZW if they could use their iPhone on their network. So if the VZW iPhone does materialize in the near future, I'm pretty sure a lot of people will jump ship again, even if it will require them to buy a new iPhone. So what will all this mean for current AT&T iPhone owners? Well, if enough people jump ship, we might finally be able to get decent service from AT&T! Although I really can't complain because other than the occasional dropped calls, my data speeds are almost always great when I have full bars. :)
     
  2. old-wiz macrumors G3

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    the current iPhones won't work on the verizon network. Everyone who wanted to switch back would have to buy a new phone. Verizon cripples their smart phones, and I find it hard to believe they would allow the iPhone to work as freely as it does now.
     
  3. djuarez03 thread starter macrumors regular

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    That's why I said they would have to buy a new iPhone, due to Verizon's CDMA network. But I'm pretty sure a lot of those people would be willing to buy a new iPhone, especially those who are still using the original iPhone.
     
  4. jav6454 macrumors P6

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    You got a point, but, Verizon iPhone is very unlikely.
     
  5. labman macrumors 604

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    And now

    this Subject hits 786578786434667 threads :rolleyes:
     
  6. Maverick1337 macrumors 65816

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    How does Verizon cripple their phones? I've heard that a lot but I havent seen anyone say why.
     
  7. archipellago macrumors 65816

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    except that the network isn't the real issue its the 'cheap' hardware.
     
  8. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    Yeah right. :rolleyes:
     
  9. archipellago macrumors 65816

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    get a blackjack, HTC or any other 3G phone you care to mention.

    Pop your iphone sim into it and go to a location where you know you have iphone issues with reception.

    tell me how it went.... be honest... ;);)

    I've done this a lot....
     
  10. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    You have a 3G or 3GS?
    I don't have any reception issues with my 3GS at all, and I doubt every iPhone in the world is the same according to your scientific experiment.
     
  11. archipellago macrumors 65816

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    not saying they are.

    In strong covergae areas there will be no difference, its in the margins where the difference shows.

    When you experience it first hand (the difference) then it really is remarkable. I can go to a total blackspot with an iPhone, change the same sim to a different phone (any) and suddenly I have coverage. I used to drive miles trying to get a signal, when all I really needed to do was change the handset.

    To answer your question, I don't have either anymore, but I've tested many 3G and 3GS models.
     
  12. dccorona macrumors 68020

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    They choke out a lot of features to make more money, such as forcing users to use their app store, not allowing bluetooth transferring of ringtones to force downloads from their store, and not allowing wifi (bb storm had it originally, verizon requested they remove it, so the story goes)
    recently, however, they havn't been doing this as much, their android phones don't seem to be lacking any feature, at least from my limited time with them

    actually, an article was just posted on macrumors not even a week ago pointing to how the iPhone utilizes the network poorly and clogs it with excessive amounts of unnecessary signals that weaken it, and that ATT may in fact have the strongest network of any service provider
    read it for yourself and decide if you believe it, don't take my word for it, I don't completely believe it myself

    http://www.macrumors.com/2009/12/14...one-is-to-blame-for-atandts-network-failures/
     
  13. old-wiz macrumors G3

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    For example, I have an older phone that has music capability. However, the only way I can get music on it is to buy it via Verizon vCast. Lots of other features are simply disabled in the phone. The reason: they want control. I think this is a major obstacle to iPhone on Verizon - they would not want you installing apps via the iTunes store.
     
  14. kdarling macrumors demi-god

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    Forcing users to use a single app store? Limited Bluetooth? Today that describes Apple and the iPhone, not other smartphones on any U.S. carrier.

    (And yet it's seen by many as A Good Thing to only allow approved apps on the iPhone. Why then is that same vetting of apps for dumbphones hypocritically seen as somehow evil?)

    In any case, on any U.S. carrier, and at least on RIM or WinMo phones, users can download any app or music or video or whatever, from wherever they wish. That's always been true.
     
  15. Maverick1337 macrumors 65816

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    Exactly what I was thinking. The iPhone cant transfer through bluetooth AND you have to use Apple's Appstore...so what does Verizon do again? I am still in the dark as to how they are crippling their phones for their benefit.
     
  16. dccorona macrumors 68020

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    I can't transfer over bluetooth because the iPhone software is not capable of it. I can, however, get ringtones free off the internet or make them myself and put them on the iPhone through other means, where as with Verizon, in the past, ringtones HAD to be purchased through VCast. The advent of multimedia centric phones have diminished this restriction, but as I stated before, they aren't really choking out their phones like they used to

    the 2 examples I feel best describe how verizon crippled phones are
    ~the moto razr allowed for bluetooth transfer of ringtones on AT&T. Verizon installed their VCast software on the phone and disabled this feature so VCast had to be used
    ~the bb storm was (allegedly) originally designed with built in wifi, and verizon told RIM to remove it, forcing users to use their EVDO network

    the main difference between Verizon forcing users to use certain app stores, and removing features, and Apple not allowing another app store or adding certain features, is that Apple is a phone manufacturer, and Verizon is a service provider.

    Apple builds the phone and codes the software. They are the ones who decide what the iPhone is capable of, and what features it will have.

    Verizon takes phones that have certain capabilities (bluetooth, wifi, user selected app stores), and purposely removes those features and capabilities that the device would have on another network

    Sure, there's some things Apple doesn't build into the iPhone, but, if I decide to buy a phone that does have those things the iPhone is lacking, with ATT, I can use the features I paid for. With Verizon (at least, the old verizon), I can only use what they decide I can have. And when you consider that, eventually, I end up paying for the whole phone, and it's mine, what gives Verizon the right to take away features of my device?

    If I buy an iPhone, I do so knowing what it is and isn't capable of. That is different than buying a phone with capabilities my service provider doesn't allow me to use. THAT is what is considered to be crippling the phone, IMO
     
  17. Wicked1 macrumors 68040

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    Let Verizon get the iPhone or some version of it, because that would put some relief on the AT&T network for the rest of us, so performance would be better. I am one of the ppl who have no issues with AT&T's customer service, or Wireless service, so I am happy.
     
  18. MTI macrumors 65816

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    VZW has gotten the message about crippling features on hardware to compel the use of VCast and their branded navigation. I think it was last year that they unlocked the GPS on their newer Blackberry products. Treo users also had features deleted on their phones that were available on other carriers. Motorola users who had access to the Phone Tools disc also were blocked on features on Razrs and other phones. Hopefully, those days at VZW are over.
     
  19. The General macrumors 601

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    Is it even actually being choked? Or is this just a bunch of hype that everyone believes just because everyone keeps saying it? Seems like the latter to me.
     
  20. thetexan macrumors 6502a

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    My experience with a Droid on Verizon and a 3GS on AT&T has been night and day. Last.fm would constantly drop out and buffer on the 3GS, not once has that happened on my Droid. I recently did a 2 hour trip and streamed Last.fm the entire trip without a single drop out or buffer. I tried that same trip on my 3GS and it would constantly stop and start forcing me to listen to FM radio.

    It seems for whatever reason AT&T has a lot of 3G "deadspots" where 3G turns into EDGE even though AT&T's coverage map shows full 3G. I have yet to see 1X (Verizon's EDGE) on my Droid pop up and I've traveled with both phones.
     
  21. archipellago macrumors 65816

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    It seems for whatever reason the iPhone has a lot of 3G "deadspots" where 3G turns into EDGE even though AT&T's coverage map shows full 3G. I have yet to see 1X (Verizon's EDGE) on my Droid pop up and I've traveled with both phones.

    fixed ...:D;)
     
  22. mb25667 macrumors member

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    I think it's in Apple's best interest to do whatever they need to do to make a Verizon iPhone...

    Think of all the millions of iphone users that would have to buy ANOTHER iphone just to go to Verizon.

    Steve Jobs says...."Cha-CHING!!"
     
  23. Lakerfan210 macrumors regular

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    You're just lucky your battery compartment didn't break off and you didn't have to send it into Verizon to be fixed the old bandaid way! :eek:

    [​IMG]
     
  25. cababah macrumors 68000

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    iDon't have to worry about my battery case falling off :)

    Verizon would be perfect if they allowed voice and data at the same time...perhaps maybe that is why their network so reliable though is that they can separate the two to make it more consistent. Fair trade off I guess..:confused:
     

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