Verizon iPhones with Fewer Dropped Calls

[Dinø]

IIRC the redesign had to do with frequency differences between the two carriers.

Yes, drink the Cool-Aid. Verizon uses 850 and 1900 MHz, which is a subset of the frequencies used by AT&T: 800, 850, and 1900.

If the antennas had to be redesigned due to differences, then how do you explain the fact that they chose the same antenna as before, but in two locations?

 

[NoExpectations]

Missing Fact

Missing Fact:

Verizon users experience a 100% internet drop when a call is placed/received!

 

[JAT]

Have to love these very scientific studies.

If someone would like to pay me my current wage, plus expenses, I'd be happy to make a very scientific study of the entire USA.

Also... there's nothing anti-competitive about them slanting towards one service over the other. But again... unless there was a huge difference in revenue or ease of activation, I don't see why they would care which service you use.

Uh, yes, that is the very definition of anti-competitive. And if Apple was actually doing this, their partnership with V would fall very fast. Doubt it is, though. Probably just a retail employee used to saying "AT&T".

Missing Fact:

Verizon users experience a 100% internet drop when a call is placed/received!

Unless on wifi.

I can say this....I've never dropped a call with my ViPhone. Since Saturday, when I got it. (this may be less useful as a metric than other experiences )

 

[citi]

Missing Fact:

Verizon users experience a 100% internet drop when a call is placed/received!

Your comment to this thread is irrelevant. You should start up a new post on Verizon's inability to talk and surf at the same time. Oh wait.....

 

[GuitarDTO]

Missing Fact:

Verizon users experience a 100% internet drop when a call is placed/received!

Not once have I needed that feature in 2+ years of Droid/iPhone. Yes, I know others like it....I've never needed it.

 

[oban14]

I think many AT&T users are locked in with AT&T due to the last upgrade cycle. I can say that the difference in Verizon on a Droid versus AT&T on an iPhone (3G, 3GS, 4) in San Francisco is night and day.

People can harp on the data while talking issue all they want. I don't think I ever used it, and the data was so often unavailable or unusable on AT&T that it wouldn't have mattered anyway.

I just can't believe I paid for that level of service for all those years. AT&T was a nightmare and Verizon has been perfect in terms of service.

 

[w00master]

Where do you people live? I can't remember having a dropped call on AT&T in the last year at least. If you live in Frisco then, well, duh?! Getting permission to build a cell there is like.... well, trying to get permission to build a nuke plant on Telegraph Hill.

AT&T iPhones (from my experience) in NYC or SF? Terrible. I can barely do anything with my iPhone. I travel both to SF and NYC often (at least 3 or 4 times a month). To me, NYC & SF feel like a dead zone to me.

w00master

 

[Oilbrnr]

Yes, drink the Cool-Aid. Verizon uses 850 and 1900 MHz, which is a subset of the frequencies used by AT&T: 800, 850, and 1900.

If the antennas had to be redesigned due to differences, then how do you explain the fact that they chose the same antenna as before, but in two locations?

Kool-Aid, please.

Again, point us to the published FACT that the design was changed to improve anything vs. just differing radio technologies. (GSM-CDMA)

 

[KJESPOKO]

AT T-Mobile

If things do not improve with AT&T after the merger with T-mobile (If it actually happens) I will be making the switch to a Verizon iPhone.

 

[JAT]

If things do not improve with AT&T after the merger with T-mobile (If it actually happens) I will be making the switch to a Verizon iPhone.

You realize it's probably 2 years away, that any alteration would become evident.

 

[WestonHarvey1]

What does the bar chart mean, exactly? Percentage of users who have experienced a single dropped call in the last 90 days? Or total percentage of calls dropped in the last 90 days?

Anyway, if 4.8% makes for the "worst carrier in the world" and "useless as a phone", then 1.8% must be merely bad. Anyone willing to admit Verizon is a merely bad carrier?

 

[LightSpeed1]

I have dropped one call on my Verizon iPhone since I bought it in February. I dropped at least 50 calls from the time I purchased the at&t iPhone 4 till the Verizon iPhone became available.

 

[Dracula77]

Well duh?

I didn't need a chart or any stats confirming this revelation.

 

[davidgrimm]

Rings true

This mirror's my experience with both carriers. I've only had 1 dropped call on Verizon since Feb 10. When I was on ATT, I would usually have 1 a week. And the Verizon phone works at my house, but that's simply a matter of where the towers are placed.

 

[PlayRadioPlay]

My phone probably drops 25% of calls that last longer than 2 minutes. And I have about 3-4 bars where I live.

 

[uwetodd]

Verizon users experience a 100% internet drop when a call is placed/received!

+1

My thoughts exactly.

 

[Goldhooka]

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I went to a Verizon to see how I liked it. Walked out laughing. After I explained to the salesman that I wanted to see how the data transfer rate felt he tried to tell me that the wifi which was on would give me an idea. After I informed him I wanted to see the 3G rate he tried to convince me the wifi and the network rate was the same. Once I convinced him to turn off the wifi I realized I'll be sticking with at@t simply for the transfer rate. It is much superior in my opinion. Guess I'm one of the 80%.

 

[alphaod]

Sure Verizon may have less dropped calls, but in the places I've tested their services, Verizon didn't have much of service reception, so I couldn't even initiate calls.

 

[valkraider]

As for 3G speeds, what exactly are you guys doing that 1.2 down isnt fast enough? I average about the same, and I stream music, watch youtube videos, and browse the web with minimal delay, so I dont understand why you think the 3G is slow slow slow? Are you basing this strictly on speed tests? Or actually putting it in context of your daily use?

first, speeds (on both carriers) rarely hit their advertised speeds with any consistency.

And second, my use consists mostly of browsing/reading/posting to forums like this one, Facebook, email, checking traffic and transit times, and using maps.

All of those things are noticeably slower on Verizon. Are they usable? Of course. Just that once I got used to speedier response, the slowness is annoying. If I had gone from my old Edge service to Verizon 3G I would probably think it was fast... It is all just by comparison.

None of it is all that important. Use the carrier that works best for you.


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"Officer, I know I was going faster than 55mph, but I wasn't going to be on the road an hour." -Steven Wright

Posted from my iPhone using the "Tapatalk" app.

 

[pmjoe]

90 day call statistics on a phone that hasn't been out for 2 months yet? How exactly do these crappy analysts stay in business???

I bet these idiot corporate analysts make more $$$ than I do, and I actually have experience designing and running proper surveys. I am definitely in the wrong business.

 

[sm.wilson]

I have two bars of GSM in my house, regardless of carrier. I can hold hour and a half long conversations and the audio is crystal clear. I regularly pull emails and reference attachments when on calls.

Data speeds still trump Verizon for me- 1.5mb down and 900k up on a "poor" signal, 6/3 on a good signal.

I use T-Mobile because I like their customer service and coverage.

I have had every iPhone. Ive dropped as many calls as I can count on my hands for no visible reason, and the rest are expected due to poor coverage, local municipalities not allowing cellular towers(usually in handoffs), and tower breathing.

The entire argument is stupid, use what provides the best service to you, but don't bash the competition, they exist not to receive libelous claims on the internet, but to provide services that better match other users than your carrier can.

 

[Goldhooka]

Ha!

Not once have I needed that feature in 2+ years of Droid/iPhone. Yes, I know others like it....I've never needed it.

I rely heavily on the talk and browse feature. I tend to use it everytime my girlfriend calls to chat

 

[deannnnn]

And you have not done something about it? You know if it's your signal, AT&T most likely will give you a microcel tower for your house. Or maybe there's an issue with your phone?

Sorry... but when someone makes statements like this, it sounds fake. No one would put up with every call dropping without getting a solution. Especially when there is one.

Really? Obviously me saying "I don't remember the last call I placed that wasn't dropped." is a sarcastic statement.

It is a problem though. Not just in my home, but all around Manhattan, so a microcell wouldn't do much for me. And if I switch to Verizon I would have to pay 5 cancellation fees and buy three new iPhones. So no, there is not a solution.

As a side note, it's just a New York City thing. My phone works perfectly when I'm in Florida.

 

[SandynJosh]

and the apple specialist was almost ignoring the Verizon iphone. She talked more about the AT&T iPhone, and only volunteered info about the Verizon version when we specifically asked about it.

Either this particular apple employee was biased towards the AT&T iPhone, or there is a company-wide preference.

I might go to other stores to test this out.

Anyone else noticed a bias ion carriers?

Her spiel may be stuck a year in the past, or you are in a strong AT&T/weak Verizon area and she is making assumptions she ought not.

 

[bassfingers]

I don't remember the last call I placed that wasn't dropped. (AT&T)

more than 50% of my calls drop at some point and I have to find higher ground. I live in Nashville. I have to be on the top floor of my dorm to get mediocre service, while my verizon friends literally get service in the basement

I am undoubtedly switching to Verizon this year