Yeah that's great BUT this speed is worthless to me with the data caps and cost of additional data...
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Yeah that's great BUT this speed is worthless to me with the data caps and cost of additional data...
It's a little bit strange to read this on Apple-related forum.
I don't know about other but I say it like I see it
Yeah, absolutely. Just saying, if you don't want to pay $600 for a new unlocked phone, there are other options out there that are good for the price of a subsidized iPhone.
It will work since all Verizon iphone 5 phones are gsm unlocked.
But depending if you're in a refarmed 3G area you might be stuck with 2G Edge for data.
They will just start charging $100-300 to activate your non-contract phone, $30 if you sign up for 2 years.
You can already do this...
Get a Nexus 4! Great phone, affordable and unlocked and I have never had any speed concerns with HSPA+ (and I do also have a phone on Verizon LTE). I am just lucky as cellular service in the Balt/Wash metro area is fantastic (even on T-Mobile).
This is very true. It's either subsidized customers are not paying back their subsidy every month or customers who buy an iPhone for full price are still paying a monthly subsidy. There's no middle ground because their monthly rates are the same.
Reality Check:
No one should be complaining or have any concern based on the fact that everyone here keeps saying there isn't much difference between the 4, 4S, and 5... a full two years worth of iPhone models.
Honestly though, it's 4 additional months. If my choice is higher rates for the entire contract period or having to keep my phone for 4 more months I'll keep the phone.
For those who think Verizon is pushing customers away, just wait... ATT and Sprint will follow. It's just a matter of time now. If I didn't have a grandfathered data plan I'd likely leave ATT for VZW just b/c they'll unlock the GSM side while under contract.
No one should be complaining or have any concern based on the fact that everyone here keeps saying there isn't much difference between the 4, 4S, and 5... a full two years worth of iPhone models.
Honestly though, it's 4 additional months. If my choice is higher rates for the entire contract period or having to keep my phone for 4 more months I'll keep the phone.
For those who think Verizon is pushing customers away, just wait... ATT and Sprint will follow. It's just a matter of time now. If I didn't have a grandfathered data plan I'd likely leave ATT for VZW just b/c they'll unlock the GSM side while under contract.
Verizon is counting on the 60% plus members it currently already has on family plans. Verizon knows this. Family plans are only real reason to have expensive Verizon or AT&T.
Lets see. Most peeps also have discounts plus family plans.
So 4-5 lines with Verizon. The bill is around $200-250 a month. About $50-55 dollars per line.
People aren't going to drop Verizon if they have 4-5 lines and get 20-25% discounts. It's very hard to cancel 4-5 lines cause most lines are staggered in their contracts.
Just indirect way of Verizon to raise costs by making people wait 4 more months to use subsidy upgrade.
I guarantee you people with family plans 4-5 lines (which are the vast majority if Verizon and even AT&T customer base). People won't leave.
Single lines will leave cause they are already paying $90-100 a month. But 4-5 lines won't be tempted to leave over this.
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Ok complainers. Who are on single lines vs family plans? I want to know.
I am on family plan with both AT&T and Verizon with 22-24% discounts.
Lets see. Most peeps also have discounts plus family plans.
So 4-5 lines with Verizon. The bill is around $200-250 a month. About $50-55 dollars per line.
People aren't going to drop Verizon if they have 4-5 lines and get 20-25% discounts. It's very hard to cancel 4-5 lines cause most lines are staggered in their contracts.
Just indirect way of Verizon to raise costs by making people wait 4 more months to use subsidy upgrade.
I guarantee you people with family plans 4-5 lines (which are the vast majority if Verizon and even AT&T customer base). People won't leave.
Single lines will leave cause they are already paying $90-100 a month. But 4-5 lines won't be tempted to leave over this.
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Ok complainers. Who are on single lines vs family plans? I want to know.
I am on family plan with both AT&T and Verizon with 22-24% discounts.
Right before the first iPhone came out my wife and I had just bought a house. We were still in city limits but for some reason there was a tiny area that had little reception for Verizon.....made no sense b/c reception was everywhere around it.
I called Verizon to talk about it and I was told...and I quote "Go outside and walk around if you need better reception." My wife and I who had just spent $200k on our first home purchase were told this by Verizon. And I did go outside, I went outside when the iPhone was released, got in my car, and went and bought two. I paid an ETA for Verizon and told them I'd never use them again.
So glad I made that decision. AT&T is by no means perfect and at times they seem just inept to me, but Verizon seemed just rude and bad when I had them.
I called Verizon to talk about it and I was told...and I quote "Go outside and walk around if you need better reception." My wife and I who had just spent $200k on our first home purchase were told this by Verizon. And I did go outside, I went outside when the iPhone was released, got in my car, and went and bought two. I paid an ETA for Verizon and told them I'd never use them again.
So glad I made that decision. AT&T is by no means perfect and at times they seem just inept to me, but Verizon seemed just rude and bad when I had them.
Good point. I didn't know how cheap it was. It's still subsided though, by Google. Do cell phones really cost $800+ to make? No way. I know that cellphone makers are not in it for charity, but they should offer something sub-$500.
Tons of comments here saying "F U Verizon... do you want us to move to T-Mobile?"
My question is... why aren't you already on T-Mobile?
T-Mobile has always been cheaper than Verizon... but their coverage isn't that great.
Cheaper isn't always better.
Verizon may be bastards... but they have great coverage and a huge selection of phones.
My question is... why aren't you already on T-Mobile?
T-Mobile has always been cheaper than Verizon... but their coverage isn't that great.
Cheaper isn't always better.
Verizon may be bastards... but they have great coverage and a huge selection of phones.
This is what they're thinking:
1. Multiple phones on a one shared data plan.
2. Staggered contract expiration dates.
3. Month 20 comes around you think about leaving but have 1-2 other lines tethered to the plan.
4. You wait to month 24 like a chump.
1. Multiple phones on a one shared data plan.
2. Staggered contract expiration dates.
3. Month 20 comes around you think about leaving but have 1-2 other lines tethered to the plan.
4. You wait to month 24 like a chump.
U can use tmobile with verizon iPhone 5. It is sold GSM unlocked.
But u will be limited to 1900 MHz hspa plus tmobile 3G/fake 4g speeds. No LTE possible with verizon iPhone 5.
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Exactly. Very well said! Verizon knows this.
VZW Marketing Chief: TMO is doing away with contracts, what should we do?
VZW CEO: Let's double down on contracts, start with 24 months.
VZW CEO: Let's double down on contracts, start with 24 months.
You make a good point here. I have 3 lines staggered on AT&T. Mine is up in May, the others Jan of 14'.
I am taking all 3 to T-mobile this year, not sure how much the etf will be on 4-5 months- if it's too much I may just wait until Jan.
Either way, I'm going back from where I came with mobile- Voicestream/T-mobile.
I would liked to have told him that.....but my wife and I already had the conversation about switching. All we needed was that nudge of rudeness to get us out the door and equipped with two $600 iPhones (yes that's what they cost with a contract when we first got them.....$600/each lol ) So he kind of helped us out I guess. We got new shiny toys and we no longer had to deal with Verizon.
I would rather be in a carrier that is changing the game (which I am right now, but no iPhone for me
) than a carrier that puts the middle finger into everyone of its customers.
I agree with Verizon on this one. The contract period is 2 years, not 20 months. The subsidized phone business model is silly to begin with. There is no free lunch.