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Here is how it should be done: A combination of this plan and the typical plan. Give the user control over when they use their metered quantity of high-speed data.

There is always this push for more speed. This ends up justifying the carriers' claims of network congestion and need to meter data. However, what if everyone was given a specific number of gigabytes, as they are now, that can be used at full LTE/5G/whatever speed, but then at the same time, they can use an unlimited amount of data at a lower rate, but they can use that whenever they want.

In other words, when I'm sitting at the mall waiting for a friend, or riding a bus, or sitting in the park, I don't need 4K quality video at 20Mbits. I can easily live with SD quality video at low bitrates, which would fit into the "unlimited" rate easily. However, the way it works now: suppose I stream a lot of Spotify or SD YouTube all month, but now it's the 29th of the month and a friend who lives out in the country loses their Internet and needs a driver update. On today's unlimited plan I might have to wait an awfully long time to download that driver. Or maybe it's Christmas and the family out in the country wants to huddle around the TV and actually watch something in 4K. In both of these situations, giving me control over when I have my high-speed allowance means I can both conserve network resources and get what I need when I need it.

And the carriers need to think of it this way. Most people will probably forget to even use their high-speed data, if lower speed is always unlimited anyway. So you sell a plan with, say, 20GB of 5G, but unlimited LTE limited to 3Mbps. Honestly? Most people will probably never even notice nor even bother to switch to 5G or higher speed. So you end up making money and conserving resources overall.

Why hasn't any carrier considered doing this yet?
 
Here is how it should be done: A combination of this plan and the typical plan. Give the user control over when they use their metered quantity of high-speed data.

There is always this push for more speed. This ends up justifying the carriers' claims of network congestion and need to meter data. However, what if everyone was given a specific number of gigabytes, as they are now, that can be used at full LTE/5G/whatever speed, but then at the same time, they can use an unlimited amount of data at a lower rate, but they can use that whenever they want.

In other words, when I'm sitting at the mall waiting for a friend, or riding a bus, or sitting in the park, I don't need 4K quality video at 20Mbits. I can easily live with SD quality video at low bitrates, which would fit into the "unlimited" rate easily. However, the way it works now: suppose I stream a lot of Spotify or SD YouTube all month, but now it's the 29th of the month and a friend who lives out in the country loses their Internet and needs a driver update. On today's unlimited plan I might have to wait an awfully long time to download that driver. Or maybe it's Christmas and the family out in the country wants to huddle around the TV and actually watch something in 4K. In both of these situations, giving me control over when I have my high-speed allowance means I can both conserve network resources and get what I need when I need it.

And the carriers need to think of it this way. Most people will probably forget to even use their high-speed data, if lower speed is always unlimited anyway. So you sell a plan with, say, 20GB of 5G, but unlimited LTE limited to 3Mbps. Honestly? Most people will probably never even notice nor even bother to switch to 5G or higher speed. So you end up making money and conserving resources overall.

Why hasn't any carrier considered doing this yet?

Because it is too complicated and not useful for 99% of consumers. It would also likely be expensive to implement. How would you switch which of the two data pools you are using? Does Apple have to embed some new code into their OS settings? Would you have to go to the carriers website/app and toggle an account setting switch?
 
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Curious...... is the hotspot unlimited as well and is it full speed, up to the max obviously, or do they slow it down? I searched their site and I don't see anything that mentions either, just hotspot.
 
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Hotspot is supposed to be full speed without any further throttle. Here is att using esim on an att unlocked iPhone XS Max.

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Here is Visible from the same location and a stronger signal using sim.

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Inside an office building on the 4th floor in a small city.
 
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Decided to take the plunge and see what it is all about. :)
 
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I don't trust Verizon, no matter what they rebrand themselves as.
I have no issues with Verizon. But I do have issues with this or any low end carrier meant to appeal to people who couldn't otherwise afford a regular premium plan by a major carrier. I'm not against people with lower income having a phone, but often times these sub-carriers or sometimes the carrier itself will use questionable practices to target these types of individuals.

Also Verizon seems to be partnering up with ISPs that offer their own phone service if they didn't have one beforehand. I believe Google Fi is simply an MVNO operating on TMO, Sprint and US Cellular depending on your region. Though I've never met a single person who uses Google Fi. I'm also not sure who Google's target customer base are.
 
Nice try Verizon but not as good as AT&T $30 unlimited data iPad plan or revived $20 Mobley plan. Just need a dumb wireless internet pipe and don't need calls/SMS/MMS since that's covered by Google Voice # with Hangouts.
 
Unlimited sounds great, but 5Mbps is definitely on the slower side. I'd probably guess that something like 15-20Mbps would be a lot more usable. Jumping to 50-100Mbps doesn't help that much on most sites, particularly on mobile.

5Mbps sounds fast, but if you realize how bloated web pages are these days or how media rich most apps are you'd understand how much less snappy this is.

You can adjust chrome to simulate 5Mbps and get a sense of this right now.
 
You guys are insane if you think you *need* more than 5Mbps on your phone.

As long as it's a good _steady_ 5Mbps that's plenty!

Sure - I have 250Mbps at my house... but my fiance and I both work from home and we have multiple 4k TVs that can be streaming simultaneously.

But my phone? 5Mbps is plenty for the odd video on Youtube... and MORE than enough for everything else.

It all depends on how steady it is. If it can dish up 5Mbps almost all the time... then I might just switch myself...
 
Let me share the current experience.

Downloaded app.
Put info in.
Got 5 emails about blah blah blah.
Same day, get confirmation number is ported and SIM is shipping.
They put usage address for the shipping address even though clearly different on the app.
Spend 40 mins with reps on service sorting it out.
App has three areas. SIM on its way, Number ported, and Install SIM.
Two of three were checked now.
App gets updated thru App Store.
Random persons info shows when logging in at the top.
Box with number ported no longer checked.
Get an email saying Thank You for signing up AutoPay, never did.
An hour plus with reps.
Rep says everything is fine, ignore lack of checkbox in app on number.
Also says AutoPay is not enabled. Disregard email.
Get SIM yesterday. Install it today.
Won't let me activate. Number is somewhere bt two companies. Been on chat for over two hours. No resolve.

And still on chat.........
 
I am going to give this a shot as a dual sim in my XS Max.... Reason being because T-mobile doesn't work inside my office building. I figured I would use this for data while I'm at work and then turn it off when I leave for the day... T-mobile works great for me everywhere else..... I am not 100% sure if I can even do this yet because I am not too familiar with the dual sim process... But so far I took the first step which was to move my T-mobile plan to the E-sim, now I can use visible on my physical sim slot.

I am hoping my desired process works and I get good coverage, and if it doesn't then hey I am out 40 bucks for 1 month, no harm no foul

Unless anyone knows a better solution in my situation? can I get a tablet plan from verizon to use for data only and pop the sim in to my phone? would that work? (I suspect not)

I also looked at getting Verizon pre-paid which gives you 15gb right now, That should be enough I think if I only use it during work hours and not for any heavy downloading. Also looked at Spectrum since my parents are subscribers.
 
Nice try Verizon but not as good as AT&T $30 unlimited data iPad plan or revived $20 Mobley plan. Just need a dumb wireless internet pipe and don't need calls/SMS/MMS since that's covered by Google Voice # with Hangouts.
Well for one, you can't buy that plan anymore and two, you get no voice or SMS and need clunky VoIP apps.
 
So far so good inside my building at work. Using visible as my data line. Sucks that I have to pay for an extra plan essentially, but hopefully T-mobile rolls out that band that penetrates buildings better in this area soon.

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