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the "Safety Mode" is uselsess - 128K - please - this isn't the 90's. they should be giving us a gig free for the crazy amount they charge - i'm seriously thinking of switching to T-Mobile.

And there's the "I'm seriously thinking/considering/going to switch, to T-Mobile".

Every time a Verizon or AT&T thread pops up, nothing but T-Mobile is so much cheaper and better and I'm going to switch. Blah blah blah. There's a reason it's cheaper. Doesn't make it ok that Verizon and AT&T keep over charging. They know they can and there's nothing stopping them unfortunately.
 
But US tax rates are wayyyy lower, so we have more disposable income on average. Not saying I don't disagree with you about the mobile data - who wouldn't want something for cheaper.

Out of curiosity, is your phone carrier publicly subsidized at all or 100% a private company (cell towers and all)?

Subsidised phone carriers are not allowed anywhere in the EU. Even though taxes might be lower in the US it still doesn't explain why you are paying as much. I'm having 12 GB data, 12 hours of speak and 4G LTE for 10$ a month here in Denmark.
 
Hello from Europe. Writing this from my 300mbit fibre optics line for $24/mo (no data caps).
We have unlimited LTE (no data caps) for $45/mo and I find this expensive.

My friend from Romania enjoys 1000mbit fibre optics line for $12/mo.

$35 for 2GB?? Totally ridiculous. You guys are getting milked hard over there.

Can you travel from London to Gibraltar to Istanbul to Siberia without paying any roaming charges? Americans would not put up with the sort of geography restrictions that you put up with, no matter how much money you save. We like to travel around more.
 
To all those Europeans confused by US cell pricing: Europe has twice the population density of the US.

Do more of European taxes also go into funding the infrastructure? I'd love to see a complete real cost comparison of the cost of US service vs service in European countries. I've just never seen a breakdown that includes costs that are paid through other avenues like government investment, taxes, and fees. I'm pretty sure we're still getting screwed over here, but I just want to finally know if it's by THIS MUCH or *this much* after you factor everything in.

I don't know anything about how the infrastructure is paid for with telecomm services whether it's in the US or anywhere else. Anyone who's more in the know care to bring me up to speed?
 
You Americans really get screwed over on mobile data charges. I pay £20 (aproximately $500) a month in the UK for unlimited data. And I use it- I stream all day every day pretty much non stop.

You must mean $5 USD/month. If you're paying $500 USD/month, you're getting ripped off even by U.S. standards. ;)

In the U.S. carriers' defense (I never thought I would be defending a carrier, but here goes), the infrastructure needed in the U.S. is tremendous compared to that of the UK simply because of the amount of landmass the U.S. carriers need to cover.

Some of our carriers here (namely Sprint) have seemingly given up trying to cover the entire country with service and their prices reflect that. T-Mobile is still trying to expand their network but they still haven't caught up to the coverage that AT&T and Verizon currently have.

Verizon in particular covers the vast majority of this country with a cell signal and many people are willing to pay for that kind of "insurance" in case they're ever in the middle of nowhere and need to make a phone call. Verizon knows their network covers more of this country than any other carrier and they charge a premium for that service.

Although, I will say (as I said in a previous post) that charging a customer $5/month for unlimited 2G unless they have a 16 GB plan or higher is absolutely insane. I hope Verizon's customers throw a fit over that and cause them to reverse course. Charging for unlimited 3G service on Verizon would be a stretch; but charging for unlimited 2G is unconscionable because it's so damn slow.
 
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To all those Europeans confused by US cell pricing: Europe has twice the population density of the US. That means the US needs about twice the number of cell towers to cover a population of a given size. That in turn means the cost per subscriber of providing coverage is approximately double. Yes, those were all back of the envelope calculations.

But don't feel bad too for us... we seem to pay less for Apple products, which you all complain about incessantly.

Most people live in larges cities at the coast. You don't need to put up a 300mbit cell tower with capacity for a million users in the middle of death vally.
 
If you think the rates in the US are bad then you need to travel to Canada. I was paying $325/month + $7/day roaming in the US for 2 lines and a total of 12gbs of data - what a JOKE! Now I'm on T-Mobile for $100/mo for 2 lines with data stash, binge on, and AMAZING covering in the Orlando and Toronto areas (4-5 bars all day). T Mobile is actually faster in Canada than in the US lol. So it's all relative. I would say that unless you need to travel in rural areas, being able to get the features above for $100 is actually a VERY good deal...
 
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The only way you'll get my grandfathered AT&T iPhone unlimited data plan (from the original iPhone launch) is by prying it from my cold dead hands.
Same here.
ATT still charges $ 35 for having an iPhone, even after the contract is up and you keep your phone.
So, they get $ 420 a year for nothing!
 
Looks like verizon does not want more customers. Beginning of the end for verizon. Talk about writing your own end!

Verizon is the worst company for cellular service , over priced and their customer service is so bad/arrogant.

ATT is going the same way if they are not to change and become more customer centric.
 
the "Safety Mode" is uselsess - 128K - please - this isn't the 90's. they should be giving us a gig free for the crazy amount they charge - i'm seriously thinking of switching to T-Mobile.

I switched about 11 months ago and have missed Verizon on about two and only two occasions while I traveled a remote interstate stretch and Spotify dropped out. Otherwise, data has been blazing fast, signal reliable, and the perks like Binge On!, rollover data, monthly discount on my iPhone are awesome and somehow continually getting more awesome.
 
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I just love how they are trying to match some of the products and pricing T-mo is offering but stop short of actually doing so, like the keep your data deal - for one extra month only. That's such a gimmick. Or the unlimited Canada/Mexico deal, but only for a day at a cost of $2, which seems like a sweet deal, expect that's about $60 a month in extra charges when compared to the $10 more such feature would cost on T-mobile for the whole month.

Meh, try again...
 
From a European point of view this prices are crazily expensive.

I live in Barcelona and here are the rates of a a Random company called MásMóvil

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All with unlimited calls and prices are including VAT.
 
I switched about 11 months ago and have missed Verizon on about two and only two occasions while I traveled a remote interstate stretch and Spotify dropped out. Otherwise, data has been blazing fast, signal reliable, and the perks like Binge On!, rollover data, monthly discount on my iPhone are awesome and somehow continually getting more awesome.

Couldn't agree more... I've been with T-mobile for about two years now. I am amazed how much they have improved during this time and the global coverage is key. For about $120 a month we have two iPhones with unlimited everything + free unlimited calls to 100's of foreign countries + global texting and web included + $0.20 a minute calls from overseas back home. That includes data service for iPad and free hot spot service. I actually drop fewer calls with T-mobile versus AT&T in just about any place I go to in the US, with the exception of rural areas.

I once landed in Hong Kong and received a free text welcoming me and letting me know that web and text are free. All within 10 seconds of touchdown. I looked up directions to the hotel right on the phone, made a call and texted back home. Seamless. No roaming. No activations. Same thing happened in other countries. That's the way it should be. We live in a global village after all.
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Hello from Europe. Writing this from my 300mbit fibre optics line for $24/mo (no data caps).
We have unlimited LTE (no data caps) for $45/mo and I find this expensive.

My friend from Romania enjoys 1000mbit fibre optics line for $12/mo.

$35 for 2GB?? Totally ridiculous. You guys are getting milked hard over there.

You've said it... it's ridiculous.
 
T-Mobile for my entire family once out contract is done. Best unlimited services.
 
Meanwhile I'm paying $50 with a subsidized 64GB iPhone 6s and unlimited everything on T-Mo.

Verizon is evil.
 
Apple charges high prices and is insanely profitable and people around here cheer when it's reported.

Another company charges high prices with a lot smaller margin...and they get booed out of the room.

Except one is evil, and data caps are a scam.
 
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