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We had roaming charges in the past but not anymore in the European Union (and Switzerland, Norway, Iceland and Faroe Islands) I can go to Germany, Italy, Denmark call and use internet like in Barcelona, no extra price. The European Parliament has been pushing providers to remove roaming within the EU, and this summer is happening already, not all companies but many, by next June will be mandatory to all of them.

So, your point is not valid anymore ;)


Source: Europa https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/roaming-tariffs

Awfully smug… Wait to you see what happens to the prices after they have to allow people to do that. Just Because a couple carriers have started to do it doesn't mean that the full costs are factored into those plans yet.

Also consider that Europeans are far less likely to travel across the continent then Americans are. Despite the often repeated line that many Americans don't have a passport, I would bet a lot of money that we traveled much more in terms of miles during a given year for vacations and the like.
 
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what do you get for that price? a free iphone on top?

in my country you get 20gigs 4g and unlimited phone call for 20$

I pay 58$ for 500gb. 4g with hbo,netflix and spotify included

your phone services are as expensive as your healthcare.

no, our healthcare costs much more.
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Hello from Europe. Writing this from my 300mbit fibre optics line for $24/mo (no data caps).
We have unlimited LTE (no data caps) for $45/mo and I find this expensive.

My friend from Romania enjoys 1000mbit fibre optics line for $12/mo.

$35 for 2GB?? Totally ridiculous. You guys are getting milked hard over there.

you have to admit though the average Romanian probably makes a fraction of the average american.
 
To everyone outside the US, let me tell you...15 years ago, in the jungles of Thailand, I had cell service at a time we barely had decent service in the cities of the US. Today, coverage is better, but prices are ridiculous. The problem is (like our healthcare, which someone mentioned) there is nothing we can do about it. People are numb to the high prices. I don't know why we don't have 300mbit unlimited service in our homes for $30/mo. I don't know why carriers are still peddling 128kbs service, like they're doing us some sort of favor. We're being brainwashed.

Verizon, to me, has always been the worst value in the industry. A company that truly doesn't care about giving it's customers a decent deal. Always high prices, locked down phones, and bad policies keep me from ever switching to them.

People are dumb. That explains it.

The only thing I disagree with you on here is "locked down phones."

All Verizon phones are actually unlocked out of the box.
 
This is why I'm fighting tooth and nail to keep my unlimited data and still be in contract. Won't be paying 20$ extra until 2017 late, but hoping I can get another contract to avoid this. I love my 74$ bill for unlimited text data and 500 mins.
 
what do you get for that price? a free iphone on top?

in my country you get 20gigs 4g and unlimited phone call for 20$

I pay 58$ for 500gb. 4g with hbo,netflix and spotify included

your phone services are as expensive as your healthcare.


And yet thousands of people from every other country come here for health care daily. I don't know anyone that's gone to ANY other country EVER for healthcare. Sometimes the best costs a little more. And how many square miles does your LTE have to build out to be effective? 20? USA is a tad bigger.
 
We had roaming charges in the past but not anymore in the European Union (including Switzerland, Norway, Iceland and Faroe Islands) I can go to Germany, Italy, Denmark call and use internet like in Barcelona, no extra price. The European Parliament has been pushing providers to remove roaming within the EU and Shengen Area. Is happening already, not all companies but many, by next June will be mandatory to all of them.

So, your point is not valid anymore ;)


Source: Europa https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/roaming-tariffs
So you're making the claim that as the European gov't limits what European wireless carries can charge for roaming (to the point that carriers can't charge anything next year), that the European carriers aren't going to raise their plan rates to compensate for the lost revenue?

Really? ;)
 
Damn, you are really getting screwed in the US.
My provider in Denmark: https://www.telmore.dk/mobil#

Every plan has 4G and unlimited sms/mms:

Talk Data
11 h 22 GB = $17.7
22 h 11 GB = $17.7
Unlimited 10 GB = $20.68
10 h 20 GB = $20.68 (Telmore Musik incl. It's like Spotify and it don't deduct your data)
15 h 20 GB = $22.16 (1 GB data when traveling in EU countries)

Since I've been a loyal costumer for +10 years, my plan is 4G, free SMS/MMS, 15 h talk and 40 GB data for $14.73.

And writing this from my 50/50 MB fiber for $37.

You have <17,000 square miles compared to over 3M square miles and <6M people compared to >318M people. Apples v. Oranges.
 
Can you travel from London to Gibraltar to Istanbul to Siberia without paying any roaming charges? Americans would not put up with the sort of geography restrictions that you put up with, no matter how much money you save. We like to travel around more.

Well... Someone in London can get to some of those places for about 30 pounds round trip - maybe not so much now that they've killed their currency temporarily. But I'm sure they won't mind paying a few bucks to enable some international data.
 
what do you get for that price? a free iphone on top?

in my country you get 20gigs 4g and unlimited phone call for 20$

I pay 58$ for 500gb. 4g with hbo,netflix and spotify included

your phone services are as expensive as your healthcare.

Actually US customers USED to get heavily subsidized (or even free) iphones with their services, but now that has diminished, so yes it now seems highly inflated.

Meanwhile US gasoline prices are about $2.10 per gallon. Denmarks are close to THREE times that.
 
Hello from Europe. Writing this from my 300mbit fibre optics line for $24/mo (no data caps).
We have unlimited LTE (no data caps) for $45/mo and I find this expensive.

My friend from Romania enjoys 1000mbit fibre optics line for $12/mo.

$35 for 2GB?? Totally ridiculous. You guys are getting milked hard over there.
Our country is much much less population dense and lots of laws require coverage of low density areas so others must subsidize.

Edit: wrong word
 
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Hello from Europe. Writing this from my 300mbit fibre optics line for $24/mo (no data caps).
We have unlimited LTE (no data caps) for $45/mo and I find this expensive.

My friend from Romania enjoys 1000mbit fibre optics line for $12/mo.

$35 for 2GB?? Totally ridiculous. You guys are getting milked hard over there.

We have a lot of land to cover in the US and a Verizon Union that doesn't want to out with landlines and go fiber.
 
And yet thousands of people from every other country come here for health care daily. I don't know anyone that's gone to ANY other country EVER for healthcare. Sometimes the best costs a little more. And how many square miles does your LTE have to build out to be effective? 20? USA is a tad bigger.

Lots of people from the US travel to Canada for healthcare.....
 
the "Safety Mode" is uselsess - 128K - please - this isn't the 90's. they should be giving us a gig free for the crazy amount they charge - i'm seriously thinking of switching to T-Mobile.
Already switched. Never going back. Verizon has tried very hard to screw me over in as many ways as possible. The last draw was them treating my fully purchased 6S as an upgrade instead a replacement, effectively ridding my plan of my unlimited data that I've had for the last decade and refusing to fix the mistake.
 
Can you travel from London to Gibraltar to Istanbul to Siberia without paying any roaming charges? Americans would not put up with the sort of geography restrictions that you put up with, no matter how much money you save. We like to travel around more.


Geez, did someone P in your cereal this morning? Your statements don't make a single bit of sense. Maybe you could expand on that "We like to travel around more" really? like where? given us something that would match your London > Gibraltar > Istanbul > Siberia example..
 
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Despite the often repeated line that many Americans don't have a passport, I would bet a lot of money that we traveled much more in terms of miles during a given year for vacations and the like.

Your claim about Americans travelling "more" miles is nothing more than an idle claim - Europeans travel a lot.

Here are some REAL percentages -

# of U.S. Passport holders = 38 per cent.

# of UK Passport holders = 75 per cent.

# of Canadian Passport holders = 60 per cent.
 
Grandfathered in I would imagine, as there were indeed $50 unlimited everything plans for a while. They weren't very successful[...]
Oh, ok. Well fair enough, but that's not a valid comparison to Verizon's current deals. I mean it is for that one person, but it's not for the average shopper trying to choose a carrier today.
 
So you're making the claim that as the European gov't limits what European wireless carries can charge for roaming (to the point that carriers can't charge anything next year), that the European carriers aren't going to raise their plan rates to compensate for the lost revenue?

Really? ;)

Well Vodafone UK have increased some of their out of bundle charges from July 23 so it's fair to say I can't help but feel that's one of the reasons why...

Not only that new and upgrading customers are now subject to RPI increases whereas until May "fixed means fixed".

Of course if the UK does leave the EU it'll be interesting to see what happens in terms of the roaming charges!
 
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hello from italy, usa's carrier cost it's crazy! to expensive !
I pay monthly € 15 for 6 GB in LTE + unlimited edge, 1000minute call and 400 sms, and a free ticket at week for movie teather!
 
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