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A shame, but as much as I love the iPhone, I don't love it enough to abide by AT&T's new pricing policy.

I would suggest it's time to try Android.


I did, not looking back either.
Perhaps if Apple deceides to stop inspecting AT&T's anal glands, and move to carriers with better coverage in my area, then I will rethink the iPhone.
Until then, I enjoy android with all the same apps I used on my touch.
 
I'm just considering all the things against an iphone coming to verizon. I dont think apple would develope a CDMA phone. How would it work in Europe?
Because there cant be a CDMA version and the current one? Verizon is the largest U.S wireless carrier so it would make sense to develop a Iphone that would work on that network and still create a iphone that works on all the other networks.
 
i could see that happening. Plently of time for Verizon to properly develope their 4G network and make sure it can handle the iphone. Unlike AT&T

Verizon's 4G footprint won't be big enough until 2013-2014 timeframe. They can not rely upon CDMA as a backup. ATT and T-Mobile can use their existing 3G as a backup to their 4G.....so as soon as the iPhone 4G is available, ATT and T-Mobile can exploit it....Verizon is stuck waiting once again.
 
I've Seen It

And until I can surf the internet while talking on the phone on Verizon I don't care if they get the iPhone or not.

I tried showing my friend that exact reason why Verizon doesn't have the iPhone. Then he busted out his "Droid" as I watched him take a phone call and look up web sites and maps. It can be done...
 
I'm not saying the iPhone IS coming to Verizon this Summer or Fall, but if it WAS, this guy wouldn't know jack ****.
Actually, he would probably be in the inside loop. Corporate PR would be deeply involved in the launch, the scheduling of executive interviews, etc. The last people to know would be the retail sales line employees.

Apple partners clam up real tight when there's an imminent deal in the works, so Mr. Johnson's message is likely the most truthful to emanate amidst all the Verizon rumors (which were likely generated from the outside).

If Apple were to end carrier exclusivity with AT&T, the most logical step would be to bring the iPhone to another GSM-based carrier: T-Mobile USA. T-Mobile USA is very happy to have jailbroken iPhones on its network.

T-Mobile USA's silence on the matter has been deafening.
 
I'm just considering all the things against an iphone coming to verizon. I dont think apple would develope a CDMA phone. How would it work in Europe?

Why would it need to work in europe?

CDMA is very popular in the americas (north and south) and china. Its not inferior to GSM, just different (to respond to an earlier post). I would expect them to come out with a CDMA phone as all the other manufacturers do... no magic to it, but it is of course a development effort. The real issue is likely getting enough carrier agreements to make it worth while.
 
and of course anyone that has been saying it won't happen will be seeing this as a confirmation of what they want to hear when in reality there is no way that this guy would be giving a straight answer. :rolleyes:
Nobody was forcing him to mention anything about the "immediate future", that was his choice of words, and it was a straight answer. He didn't have to make a comment about it at all, especially 4 days before the Keynote. People on his level usually don't engage in "april fools" communication, they have stock prices to worry about. He's not lying. The key word here is "immediate", though, this leaves an opening for something on the horizon but it could be many months away.
 
Why would it need to work in europe?

CDMA is very popular in the americas (north and south) and china. Its not inferior to GSM, just different (to respond to an earlier post). I would expect them to come out with a CDMA phone as all the other manufacturers do... no magic to it, but it is of course a development effort. The real issue is likely getting enough carrier agreements to make it worth while.

CDMA is inferior. Verizon's CDMA is now capped at 3 MB. They can't go any faster. Hence the rush to 4G. At least with ATT's 3G, they are upping it to 7.2MB and then 14.4MB. Also, CDMA does not support concurrent voice and data access.
 
Can we now stop these Verizon iPhone/iPad rumors?

Apple will not build a CDMA device...their technology is old, slow, and lacks critical features.

Normally, I'd agree. But I've changed my stance on this a bit...

The main reason for Apple to release a CDMA phone - even if it would only be useable in the US, Japan, and one of the Koreas - is purely a defensive move to prevent Android & Google from gaining too much of a foothold in the US.

Oh - and don't think for a minute that Apple hasn't already developed and field tested (or is in the process of field testing) a CDMA-capable iPhone and iPad. Knowing Apple, they probably developed one from the very beginning - sort of like the OS X Intel transition.

Regardless, I don't expect a Verizon iPhone or iPad until 2011 at the earliest. Certainly not this year.

Although some of AT&T's latest moves could be interpreted as pre-emtive strikes against losing exclusivity - i.e. jacking the ETF fees.

Still - my gut tells me 2011.
 
I tried showing my friend that exact reason why Verizon doesn't have the iPhone. Then he busted out his "Droid" as I watched him take a phone call and look up web sites and maps. It can be done...

Impossible on CDMA. He was probably on wifi for his data.
 
Why would it need to work in europe?

CDMA is very popular in the americas (north and south) and china. Its not inferior to GSM, just different (to respond to an earlier post). I would expect them to come out with a CDMA phone as all the other manufacturers do... no magic to it, but it is of course a development effort. The real issue is likely getting enough carrier agreements to make it worth while.

No, CDMA is inferior, no doubt about it. Until I can get a CDMA phone that I can unlock and take with me if I switch carriers I will never buy any CDMA device.
 
I definitely see a Verizon iPhone being in the works but I highly doubt that it will be announced on Monday. I think it's very possible one could be released closer to the holiday season, but if not then definitely next year.
 
Why would it need to work in europe?

CDMA is very popular in the americas (north and south) and china. Its not inferior to GSM, just different (to respond to an earlier post). I would expect them to come out with a CDMA phone as all the other manufacturers do... no magic to it, but it is of course a development effort. The real issue is likely getting enough carrier agreements to make it worth while.
Popular or not, it's on its way out. Remember what Steve said in the D8 interview about having limited resources and therefore having to choose which horses to ride? Picking technologies that are in their spring, not their autumn? Technologies that have a trajectory leading into the future? CDMA has no such trajectory, it's a dead end. It would be very un-Apple to jump on a horse with two hooves in the grave.
 
I tried showing my friend that exact reason why Verizon doesn't have the iPhone. Then he busted out his "Droid" as I watched him take a phone call and look up web sites and maps. It can be done...

Really? i tried doing the same thing with my friend, and when she pulled out her droid and tried to use the internet while in a phone call, it refused to work. Maybe your friends droid was on wifi?
 
I tried showing my friend that exact reason why Verizon doesn't have the iPhone. Then he busted out his "Droid" as I watched him take a phone call and look up web sites and maps. It can be done...

If on wifi. Not on 3g. Or at least every Verizon and Droid forum I've seen says.
 
Ha! No soup for you!

It's too bad really, but it's all to do with the US cellular industry being the least customer focused industry in the world. If people were disciplined, they simply would not own cell phones until customer lock-in is a thing of the past, and handset manufacturers were not required to get into bed with a provider.

That's what I'm doing. I won't own a cell phone. Not until the industry (with perhaps help from the government?) figures out how to provide me with a cell service that is fair and reasonable.
 
Enough with the Verizon iPhone rumors...

iPhone will come when Apple and Verizon agree. And probably only when Steve can make the announcement personally.

Gives us some Mac Pro rumors already! :)
 
Of course not, because in competitive markets outside the U.S., where most carriers use GSM and multiple carriers got the iPhone, iPhone kills the knockoffs.

Verizon likes the knockoffs because verizon gets control over them.
 
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