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Verizon Spokesman: No iPhone Plans in 'Immediate Future'
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Meet RUIM. Sadly the US market has never shown interest in being able to take a handset between carriers (and they still don't since you can't do it for any 3G phone for any carrier and still have 3G work).
Qualcomm really screwed up the CDMA name calling their tech CDMA2000. Purely as a channel access method CDMA is superior to GSM (of the TDMA type). To further prove the point, GSM 3G doesn't even use TDMA.
This is exactly what I came in here to say.
Well, that and there are a lot of people making noise about GSM being so much better than CDMA. Here's the thing: if a person spends a significant amount of time outside of the country then you'd be best suited to a GSM phone, provided it's got support for international bands. Otherwise the American customer just wants access. I can and have placed calls all over this country using my CDMA (Verizon) phone without issue. My data access works just as reliably. Simple truth: I'll sacrifice blinding speed at the best of times and the ability to browse while I talk in order to have reliable, moderately fast access.
Besides, CDMA is a more mature standard and is generally better implemented in this country. Like I said, it may not be as fast as GSM but I've never had a dropped call without walking/driving into a natural dead zone or a Faraday cage.
Not simple hows that not simple? Most phone makers make both type of phones. Also you walk into the apple store and they ask you ok what carrier you going to be using. OK heres the Iphone that works on that carrier. DoneI just don't see Apple having a 3G iPhone and a CDMA iPhone, that's not simple and would just confuse people in the Apple store, which they don't want at all.
Also no matter how many times I see it Pegatron is an awesome company name.
I just don't see Apple having a 3G iPhone and a CDMA iPhone, that's not simple and would just confuse people in the Apple store, which they don't want at all.
Also no matter how many times I see it Pegatron is an awesome company name.
Actually, they would label it a 3G phone as well. The 3G doesn't refer to any specific data access platform so much as a rough delineation of the generation of said platform for the particular carrier. As such, Verizon refers to their EV-DO as 3G and as such the iPhone could continue to be branded 3G, though I would expect Apple to remove ambiguity through the use of parenthetical addons: 3G (GSM) and 3G (CDMA)
What is with all of the conflicting reports on Verizon carrying the iphone? I've been hearing yes and then no, over and over again for months now. For now i'm just going to assume that the CEO of Verizon is just being secretive and that they won't be carrying the iphone.
*DING DING DING DING DING* We have a winner!
The simple fact is that in the US we've developed a wireless industry based around the contractual linking of customer to provider. Aside from the occasional customer who gets fed up and shifts providers out of frustration we're pretty much happy being tied to one service provider at least for the length of our cell contracts. A lot of people point at Europe as an example of how we should associate with providers. They most often buy their phones at cost and operate without a contract (or sign a very short term contract and get a minute subsidy on the phone) and will switch carriers as it suits their need or whim.
Of course the US is not likely to develop the same kind of cellular environment as Europe because a lot of other factors and societal differences (views on expenses, amount of debt, population density and thus carrier choices) will prevent that from happening. Plus it would require the formal adoption of a country-wide standard for cellular service and a concrete, no-excuses, change over deadline. That's not going to happen.
Trolls Giving False Hope
I truly believe we have a number of Verizon Fanboys (read employees) who want to keep giving false hope to their current customers in order to delay/avoid a mass exodus.
I truly believe we have a number of Verizon Fanboys (read employees) who want to keep giving false hope to their current customers in order to delay/avoid a mass exodus.
So... what were people expecting them to say?
"You bet! It's right around the bend!"
I imagine even "we can't comment on that," would have gone against any potential agreement they might have with Apple. And it is reasonable to conclude that if it is coming, it won't be in the 'immediate future' anyway.
"You bet! It's right around the bend!"
I imagine even "we can't comment on that," would have gone against any potential agreement they might have with Apple. And it is reasonable to conclude that if it is coming, it won't be in the 'immediate future' anyway.
I've got a Droid Eris on that $30 plan. I regularly use in excess of 15 gigs of data access. How much would that cost me on AT&T's $15 plan when you count in all the overage charges I would incur?
Don't get me wrong. If you don't use a whole lot of data access then it's a great alternative. However, if you're a heavy user like I am then the $30 is more than justified.
Even that is understatement. The obsession on this site over one carrier in one market is ridiculous. Are they really so great?
For starters you could use all the data you want untill june 7th so get your facts straight son. And then if you have the unlimited plan you can keep it because it's grandfathered over. So no one is being forced to change.
Also i hope you have that attitude when VZW rolls out the same tiered pricing plan. LEt's see then how greener the grass is on your side then.
Just something to consider is that in the carriers world, "immediate future" can mean only a few weeks to a couple of months. If the iPhone were slated in November, and I think this would be a good thing, it would probably be not considered "immediate future". I say this with having worked for Lucent/ATT and worked with several carriers on products.
The spec was only passed last year in the fall if I remember correctly. I'm guessing most phones right now were designed or were being designed at that time.
From Qualcomm PR (they do have it baked into chips now that are being tested in the wild).
Simultaneous 1X voice and EV-DO data (SVDO) is a new, standard-independent device feature that significantly enhances user experience without impacting the infrastructure side. In today' s networks, a device can be paged to receive 1X voice calls while in an EV-DO data session. However, no data connectivity is possible while in a voice call. SVDO changes this by establishing independent voice and data sessions using separate transmit and receive chains in the device.
The SVDO feature will be supported in new devices, and will work with 1X or 1X Advanced with EV-DO Rev. A or Rev. B. Qualcomm is planning to support the SVDO feature in all of its new EV-DO MSM chipsets.
Where did you see it that the current network could not handle it?
This guy is a Verizon SPOKESPERSON. They tell him what to say to every question asked. "If asked about the iPhone, say there are no plans in the immediate future and quickly move topic to the Droid devices..."
I'm not saying there will be an iPhone this Summer or even by next year, but he just says what he's told to say. You think he'd wink at the camera and be like "maybe, we'll see..." No. This should be on Page 2.
I'm not saying there will be an iPhone this Summer or even by next year, but he just says what he's told to say. You think he'd wink at the camera and be like "maybe, we'll see..." No. This should be on Page 2.
Personally, I don't think they are great, I'm just kinda stuck in a bad ATT spot. It's the devil that works in the area I need to be. They are all evil in my book.
well the contract extension thing is on shaky grounds now that AT&T killed the $30 unlimited plan just two months after Steve Jobs announced it as one of the landmark pros of the iPad 3G. As for CDMA being slower, it doesn't matter. CDMA is the only available service for a good chunk of Americans due to AT&T's inability to build out their network.
I will admit that my hopes for a verizon iPhone are kind of dashed after hearing this guy, but I still have faith that the iPhone will be released on some other carrier on Monday because of Job's ambiguity when asked whether there would be a benefit to releasing on two carriers. Normally, he would have shot down the question by saying that they are happy with a one carrier model or something to that effect. I also feel that no one short of the top brass (president, CEO, etc) at Verizon would know whether an iPhone is coming.