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Here is the thing, Android isn't one phone company but a coalition of competing cell phone makers, sans Apple, that carry a free OS. Period.End of.
Besides, Google pays Apple 100 million a year to carry its search. WTF.
 
Compare

Hypothetical Verizon iPhone
  • Max speed 3.1mb
  • No concurrent Voice/Data
  • No rollover minutes
  • Need to buy a new phone for that unexpected trip outside the US

Real ATT iPhone
  • Max speed 7.2mb
  • Concurrent Voice/Data
  • Rollover Minutes
  • Global Standard
 
yawn

Seriously,

This dead horse has been drug through hell and back so many times now that it's kind of to the point where idiots are now in denial. It economically and strategically does not make sense for Apple to manufacture a CDMA iphone when Verizon and Sprint are in the process of upgrading to LTE. Why would Apple want to hire more people to make a phone that will have a life span of less than a year?
Once all carriers have LTE going full blast, Apple can continue what they are doing and just focus on engineering a phone to handle an LTE signal and guess what??
Thats right - All carriers will be able to run it. **Hooray**
-- btw, that includes Verizon as well for all of you wishful thinkers.

the end.
 
Plutonius said:
You will end up seeing similar pricing at the other cell providers.

Not in the near future I won't. With the Evo I get a better phone, a better phone OS, much cheaper costs, a better network, unlimited tethering for free (with no jail breaking or rooting required as Sprint says its ok to use). And I also get real turn by turn navigation. Why has Apple been so god awful in regards to that? I guess turn by turn isn't important until they can make it magical. Sorry Apple, Google not oly beat you to the punch, they knocked you out.
 
Not in the near future I won't. With the Evo I get a better phone, a better phone OS, much cheaper costs, a better network, unlimited tethering for free (with no jail breaking or rooting required as Sprint says its ok to use). And I also get real turn by turn navigation. Why has Apple been so god awful in regards to that? I guess turn by turn isn't important until they can make it magical. Sorry Apple, Google not oly beat you to the punch, they knocked you out.

Sprint has bandwidth throttling for users who use over 5GB while tethering. I wouldn't say Sprint's network is better. It is pretty slow in my experience and if you leave a city coverage is sparse (I'm sure it's better in the select places they have 4G though). I do like their plans and prices.
 
A shame, but as much as I love the iPhone, I don't love it enough to abide by AT&T's new pricing policy.

I would suggest it's time to try Android.

I'm an apple consultant and i work with iPhones almost every day, and hold several apple certifications, so don't flame me too hard; i'm as big a Mac fan as anyone. Apple's ongoing success is how I make my living. However, I'm also stuck with Verizon due to company stuff, so I recently caved and got an HTC Incredible.

Sure, you can find nitpicks about it, just like you can with the iPhone, but it's really not a bad device all around. I'm especially fond of the Google Voice integration; Google really one-upped Apple's visual voicemail with it. Also, you can easily get apps that allow tethering that bypass the "official" tethering service that Verizon charges for, due to the somewhat-more-open ecosystem. I also really enjoy streaming pandora while I'm driving to meet clients, so i appreciate that I'm contracted now for at least two years of an "unlimited" data plan at a reasonable (compared to new AT&T pricing) price. Verizon's soft cap is 5 gigs, and at $30/mo the same thing would cost $55/mo under the new AT&T disgrace.

Sure, I'll get flamed for saying it, but after using it for about a month, I'd rather have the Incredible than a Verizon 3GS if it existed, and I'd only really feel bad if a Verizon iPhone HD does turn up next week.

As for whatever comes out with AT&T, I used 2.5 gigs of data last month, and I'm only ever going to want to do MORE with my phone, not less. So the recent change in AT&T's pricing killed any chance of me ever switching to AT&T, no matter how great the new iPhone is. Good job, AT&T!

I know Verizon's probably going tiered too soon though, so who knows where we'll be when my 2 year contract ends. Sprint maybe?
 
Hypothetical Verizon iPhone
  • Max speed 3.1mb
  • No concurrent Voice/Data
  • No rollover minutes
  • Need to buy a new phone for that unexpected trip outside the US

Real ATT iPhone
  • Max speed 7.2mb
  • Concurrent Voice/Data
  • Rollover Minutes
  • Global Standard

Spoken like an AT&T spokesperson. Could you add bullet points for 3G coverage and ACTUAL real world network performance?
 
Dang. I guess I will be getting an iPad and a Droid Incredible :(

I really needed the iPhone to come to verizon because i don't have any coverage with at&t at the house.

I really hope the iphone does come to verizon in like november.
 
Spoken like an AT&T spokesperson. Could you add bullet points for 3G coverage and ACTUAL real world network performance?

I am not an AT&T spokesperson. I typically try to present 'the other side' on these witch hunts.

PC Mag just tested the speeds of all the major wireless carriers....here is the link. Nothing new...AT&T is fastest...but also least consistent.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2364263,00.asp
 
The key term is "immediate future”

immediate = Right mo'f'n now!

i think we can all guess its not going to happen this summer. His comments do not decline anything beyond that.
 
I don't understand why all the Apple fanboys are also AT&T fanboys.

If you love the iPhone so much, wouldn't you want it to thrive on as many outlets as possible? Being exclusive to one company isn't a good way to grow. If Apple wants to compete with Android, they need to open themselves up.

Most users who were willing to move to AT&T for the iPhone have already moved in the 3+ years it's been available. New AT&T iPhone customers can only start to decline. Sure, there will be occasional spikes once a year when Apple releases a new phone, but overall, it's a downward trend.

I don't have an iPhone. I'm on VZW. I do not love the iPhone enough to move to AT&T, but I'd buy one if it moved to VZW. If a VZW iPhone doesn't happen this year, I'll join the millions of new Android customers when my contract expires in September.

The only thing I can figure out is that Apple fanboys like to be the underdog. Once your precious product is open to the masses, you no longer are a part of an "elite" group of users, and you become just like the next guy.

And fanboys hate being like the next guy.
 
I have been saying this for a while now.

As a MacRumors Analyst, it is not going to happen in 2010. Right now it looks like it will not happen before 2012.
 
I don't understand why all the Apple fanboys are also AT&T fanboys.
Patently untrue.

I've been a longtime AAPL shareholder and Apple customer. I even own a few AT&T shares as well. However, I don't have an iPhone simply because I get zero bars of AT&T reception at home. I ditched my landline a while back.

The thing I like the most about AT&T are the dividend payouts (about 6.9%). Sure beats a money market account or CD in these volatile market conditions. That's about the limit of my AT&T enthusiasm though.

At the end of the day, a mobile operator is just a dumb pipe.
 
Android SUCKS nuff said!
That's a decidedly short-sighted stance.

Apple customers benefit when there are strong and smart competitors. That encourages Apple to continue innovating and bringing competitively priced products to market in a timely fashion. Lack of competition leads to stagnation in innovation as well as higher prices. Is that what you wish for?
 
How about a T-Mobile deal? No need to change the technology and way better pricing. They also offer plans where you can pay up front for the phone and get a better deal on the monthly service. This actually saves you money over two years compared to a subsidized phone with a r@pe your a$$ AT&T plan.
 
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