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Um dude, they are scrubbing the $30 unlimited plan for the iPad. Did you not get the memo?

:D:D:D Got the memo now! It was really confusing the way the article was written.

So I guess AT&T is reacting to the bandwidth issue. I'm sure they're trying to have people use their home network more for big downloads vs trying to use the 3G network to download video's and books. With WiFi so available, I don't see this as a huge issue. Business users who may rely on the iPad portability may get upset. As a consumer... no big deal.
 
Actually no. If you actually read the fine print you signed to when you got the iphone, you would recall a clause giving them the right to charge you more money if you go over 5GB so long as they give you advance warning and allow you a free out on your contract if you don't agree.

The first overage or perhaps two (if they aren't right together) they might let slide. but if you are going over 5GB every month or so they will most certainly slap you with a charge. You are that 3% they want to snag as the bandwidth hogs. Not the 97% that according to ATT rarely to never goes over even 2GB (and even the rarely according to them don't go over on a regular basis so the 1GB for $10 won't be that huge an issue)

Actually there is no overage charge for overage iphone unlimited data and considering i work for AT&T i should know.
 
I was blown away. We were on a lake in Kansas. I had my Edge network on my iPhone and he had his Droid on Verizon. I like my iPhone much better, but he was able to do it. There isn't a doubt.
Sounds fishy.

Basically, your friend's phone does something on the Verizon network that no other Verizon customer can get to do. Are you sure your friend wasn't looking at cached content? Or perhaps a MiFi in his pocket?

If one was really able to talk and surf simultaneous on Verizon Wireless, don't you think they would be touting that ability?
 
I would expect him to tell the truth, no matter what SJ thinks, as misleading investors violates the security exchange act, will get the attention of the SEC, and will lead to much worse consequences than anything SJ can do.

Of course, what he said was pretty nonspecific, so he should be good. But corporations *can't* just say anything they want.

Wrong... just the opposite. By SEC rules, being an "insider" to big business deals he is bound not to prematurely disclose information that would affect stock prices. Nor can he trade just before big deals are announced.

He is not lying or telling the truth... he's being a smart business man and keeping his cards close.
 
Sounds fishy.

Basically, your friend's phone does something on the Verizon network that no other Verizon customer can get to do. Are you sure your friend wasn't looking at cached content? Or perhaps a MiFi in his pocket?

If one was really able to talk and surf simultaneous on Verizon Wireless, don't you think they would be touting that ability?

Exactly! You cannot talk and surf at the same on Any Verizon phone unless you are connected to wifi. I Should know because i tested the waters by purchasing a Droid when it was first released.

The only way this will be supported is when SVDO is implemented and no current phone on vZW's network can handle that.

Because it requires a completly diffrent chipset
 
or he is simply telling the truth in a polite way without getting into the whole "because ATT has an exclusive contract with Apple for carrying the iphone until 2012, as was announced by Jobs on day one. So even if we wanted the iphone we can't have it" stuff. Since he wants the focus to be on what they do have. Given that that is his job
I doubt that the Verizon spokeman knows the details of the current agreement between AT&T and Apple.

You know that contracts can be changed, right? Like if you switch from a 30-year mortgage to a 15-year mortgage?

While it's entirely possible that the original contract laid out terms for exclusivity through 2012, there's also a very real chance that this contract was replaced by something else in light of the fact that AT&T stopped revenue sharing with Apple and started paying an outright subsidy.
 
I think something is definitely up between Apple and AT&T. AT&T just basically said screw you to Steve Jobs and Apple. Looks like iPhone will definitely be on another carrier. AT&T is upset about something, next week we'll know for sure.
I think the loser won't be Apple, AT&T will be the loser. Look what happend with Adobe/Apple relationship, and who will be the long term winner, not Adobe.

If AT&T was smart, they should've played along. Dump AT&T stock, they are going to lose subscribers like crazy.

I agree 100%. As opposed to what NoExpectations said above, the loss of the iPad 3G unlimited plan is not an "additional pricing option" but a major blow to Apple and a personal slap in the face to Jobs after he highlighted their "breakthrough deal" with AT&T in January. Having AT&T pull this stunt just 5 weeks after the release of the Wifi+3G has to mean something.

If it's not Verizon, then I'm hoping they have T-Mobile in the wings for Monday :D
 
That's the nature of the Apple fanboy. If Droid has it, it's not important. If iphone has it, it's MAGICAL. Pathetic but true.

You have to remember though that if someone doesn't use a particular feature then it's not important to them.

I will admit when the ipod came out i was only into having my music with me all times. I didn't give a damn about video. So you can't sit there and call someone out over not wanting a feature that you want.
 
Where was that video taken?

Rather than comment on the iPhone on Verizon saga (which resurrects itself every June).....

I was curious if that video taken at the Il Forniao restaurant in Del Mar? It sure looked like the balcony at that restaurant with that view of the beach.
 
Fanboys

OK, the use of the word "fanboy" has gotten out of control. At least two posts in this thread refer to "Verizon fanboys." Honestly? Wireless carriers have fanboys now?
 
It'll happen sooner or later, the sooner the better. With Android across the board, the iPhone needs to be on more than one carrier.
 
The strange plan is the one for tethering. If I understand it correctly, one pays $20 to use up their 2GB of data faster. I could understand limiting the data and allowing tethering, but limiting data and charging more for tethering is real nonsense. And I typically like AT&T.

We will see the iPhone on more carriers in the fall, and will see no new iPad hardware until 2011. Just makes the most business sense.
 
Of course the US is not likely to develop the same kind of cellular environment as Europe because a lot of other factors and societal differences (views on expenses, amount of debt, population density and thus carrier choices) will prevent that from happening. Plus it would require the formal adoption of a country-wide standard for cellular service and a concrete, no-excuses, change over deadline. That's not going to happen.
Tmobile has changed their serivce plans to accommodate this. But the hardware exchange can't really happen with the current SIM/noSIM issues across the carriers.
 
I participate in a lot of development projects for Android. I'm working with some friends to try and develop a reasonable media player with decent codec support and that's currently my big bandwidth hog. I do almost nightly tests of builds and try to stream large files from a public server over the cellular connection.

Aside from that I have a few scripts doing regular checks on my work servers (every 5 minutes) so that I know when one of my public services goes down before the company's e-mail alert system will even register the failure.

No, I don't have good battery life but I do have great uptime.


Ok, that makes sense. Sounds like some good stuff. Good luck in your testing and development.
 
This is exactly what I came in here to say.

Well, that and there are a lot of people making noise about GSM being so much better than CDMA.

That means your device is pretty much hardware locked to Verizon, as you can't use it internationally without expensive data charges from Verizoon.

GSM phones can be unlocked for traveling.
 
That means your device is pretty much hardware locked to Verizon, as you can't use it internationally without expensive data charges from Verizoon.

GSM phones can be unlocked for traveling.

Verizon sells a couple of dual mode CDMA/GSM blackberrys that can be unlocked and used internationally. No reason that other companies can't release similar phones.
 
CDMA is inferior. Verizon's CDMA is now capped at 3 MB. They can't go any faster. Hence the rush to 4G. At least with ATT's 3G, they are upping it to 7.2MB and then 14.4MB. Also, CDMA does not support concurrent voice and data access.

But you can make a phone call on that inferior technology.
 
Att may not have the coverage like Verizon but Verizon never said they could handle the power of the iphone usage.
Coverage doesn't equal capability
 
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