Verizon to Offer Free Apple TV 4K in 5G Residential Broadband Package

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Verizon today announced that it will offer the Apple TV 4K as part of its 5G residential broadband package that's set to launch in four markets this year, including Indianapolis, Houston, Los Angeles, and Sacramento.

A free Apple TV 4K will be provided to Verizon 5G broadband customers in lieu of a traditional cable box. Several other cable providers have also been offering the Apple TV 4K as an option to customers, including DirecTV in the US, Canal+ in France, and Salt in Switzerland.


With the Apple TV 4K, customers have access to cable content, both free and subscription, through a wide selection of apps that are available on the device, plus it includes perks like Siri for voice control and the Apple TV app for keeping track of the content you're watching across a wide range of apps.

In addition to an Apple TV 4K, Verizon is also planning to provide its 5G broadband subscribers with a subscription to YouTube TV, YouTube's $40 per month streaming service that offers access to television shows on ABC, CBS, Fox, NBC, the CW, Disney, ESPN, FX, USA, and dozens more.

Verizon's 5G residential broadband service will include Apple TV 4K & YouTube TV in Houston, Los Angeles, Sacramento and Indianapolis: Apple TV 4K: https://t.co/NAyBcRERqTYouTube TV: https://t.co/dBGgTZdL53 pic.twitter.com/hjuyz3PVJC - Verizon News (@VerizonNews) August 14, 2018

Verizon is aiming to be the first wireless provider to offer 5G residential broadband and 5G mobile service in the United States. Its home internet installations in Indianapolis, Houston, Los Angeles, and Sacramento are set to begin in the second half of 2018.

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i still dont get the hype around 5G. what does it do??
Burns data to the caps faster than ever before. More (billing) money, more money, more money. ;)

More serious answer: faster downloads over cellular (making the joke above based on a fair amount of truth). Instead of waiting 5 seconds for something, you might get it in 3.5-4 seconds now. You might notice a speed increase in some apps that lean on sizable data downloads. If you regularly run up into any data cap, you'll likely notice you doing that faster with 5G. If you have unlimited* and regularly run up into the throttling threshold, you'll likely get there faster with 5G.
 
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genovelle

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Burns data to the caps faster than ever before. More (billing) money, more money, more money. ;)

More serious answer: faster downloads over cellular (making the joke above based on a fair amount of truth). Instead of waiting 5 seconds for something, you might get it in 3.5-4 seconds now. You might notice a speed increase in some apps that lean on sizable data downloads. If you regularly run up into any data cap, you'll likely notice you doing that faster with 5G. If you have unlimited* and regularly run up into the throttling threshold, you'll likely get there faster with 5G.
This is aimed at replacing cable and fiber in homes because it’s 10 times faster than Gigabit
 

tech3475

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With 5G who really needs FIOS? No wonder Verizon bailed out of the optical fiber business — they could see the writing on the wall.
Something tells me we will still end up relying on domestic fttc/fttp for one reason or another eg. Reliability, bandwidth, frequencies, cost, etc.
 

fairuz

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Burns data to the caps faster than ever before. More (billing) money, more money, more money. ;)

More serious answer: faster downloads over cellular (making the joke above based on a fair amount of truth). Instead of waiting 5 seconds for something, you might get it in 3.5-4 seconds now. You might notice a speed increase in some apps that lean on sizable data downloads. If you regularly run up into any data cap, you'll likely notice you doing that faster with 5G. If you have unlimited* and regularly run up into the throttling threshold, you'll likely get there faster with 5G.
4G and earlier have a problem with high latency. 5G is supposed to reduce latency greatly, which usually matters more than bandwidth when you're loading a website. Also makes audio/video calls nicer.

Though I'm unsure what we'll see in the real world when it comes out; IDK if the latency of 4G comes from the wireless or the networking centers you're routed through. Those perform heavy packet inspection that isn't done on home broadband.
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With 5G who really needs FIOS? No wonder Verizon bailed out of the optical fiber business — they could see the writing on the wall.
Yes. For those bringing up the fiber used for backhaul, the point of FiOS is that they bring fiber straight to the house. It was a pain. Better to bring it to the street then transmit wirelessly to the houses.
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They are going to need all the fiber they can get just to feed the 5G cell sites. It's still radio and you are still sharing the bandwidth with others.
There are going to be way more 5G cell sites than before. It's last mile in the most literal sense. 5G's high-freq waves don't even work well long-range.

This is why people are concerned about harmful radiation, high-frequency transmitters all over the place now instead of just having a few cell towers transmitting at lower frequencies more likely to pass through living objects. Nobody knows enough to tell whether it's a problem, but I do know that there are exposure limits imposed by the FCC based on some research showing that certain levels can significantly increase the risk of cancer. I feel the money is going to bias them to give 5G the benefit of the doubt.
 
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This is aimed at replacing cable and fiber in homes because it’s 10 times faster than Gigabit
Correct.

But the question people are asking is... will 5G have the same kind of data caps and throttling that current 4G has?

For instance... you get "unlimited" data on your current 4G plan... except it's throttled after you use 22GB or whatever.

Now imagine that same sort of limitation on your home internet... where people regularly use HUNDREDS of gigabytes from Youtube, Netflix, etc.

So what good is "10 times faster than gigabit" if it'll be throttled (slowed down) after a certain amount of data?

Look... I understand the idea. It's a lot easier to pop up a tower and instantly give 10,000 homes access to super-fast wireless internet rather than stringing fiber to every home.

BUT... the carriers are already throttling 4G wireless data on phones... so why wouldn't they do the same for 5G at the home?

Either they'll have to admit that the throttling on phones is complete nonsense... or they'll have to give this 5G wireless home internet an insane pricetag.

Think of it this way... if they charge $80/mo for 22GB of full-speed 4G data on your phone... imagine the cost of 500GB or 1,000GB of full-speed 5G data at home. :eek:
 
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Correct.

But the question people are asking is... will 5G have the same kind of data caps and throttling that current 4G has?

For instance... you get "unlimited" data on your current 4G plan... except it's throttled after you use 22GB or whatever.

Now imagine that same sort of limitation on your home internet... where people regularly use HUNDREDS of gigabytes from Youtube, Netflix, etc.

So what good is "10 times faster than gigabit" if it'll be throttled (slowed down) after a certain amount of data?

Look... I understand the idea. It's a lot easier to pop up a tower and instantly give 10,000 homes access to super-fast wireless internet rather than stringing fiber to every home.

BUT... the carriers are already throttling 4G wireless data on phones... so why wouldn't they do the same for 5G at the home?

Either they'll have to admit that the throttling on phones is complete nonsense... or they'll have to give this 5G wireless home internet an insane pricetag.

Think of it this way... if they charge $80/mo for 22GB of full-speed 4G data on your phone... imagine the cost of 500GB or 1,000GB of full-speed 5G data at home. :eek:
The 5G network is going to support much more bandwidth than 4G (if they're building it the way I think they are), meaning the data usage won't be such a problem that they have to throttle or set low caps. It should be more like the home broadband plans, at least with these home 5G connections. Cell might be different.
 
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The 5G network is going to support much more bandwidth than 4G (if they're building it the way I think they are), meaning the data usage won't be such a problem that they have to throttle or set low caps. It should be more like the home broadband plans, at least with these home 5G connections. Cell might be different.
I'm optimistic from the technology standpoint... but I'm not optimistic from the business standpoint.

You're right... 5G can handle a lot more bandwidth than 4G. But if we've learned anything from the carriers... they love to nickle-n-dime in every way possible.

I'm guessing the carriers will invent some new way to overcharge for data on 5G... :p
 
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Will this help me go over my data cap faster?
If not, they will lower the cap until you do.
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The 5G network is going to support much more bandwidth than 4G (if they're building it the way I think they are), meaning the data usage won't be such a problem that they have to throttle or set low caps. It should be more like the home broadband plans, at least with these home 5G connections. Cell might be different.
4G data usage already isn’t a problem (as used now). Data caps are not about usage. It’s a way to get money. There is plenty enough research that shows this.

So expect plenty of data caps (sorry AT&T, I mean ‘usage tiers’) with the new program.
 

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Again, too much to ask for 5G, 802.11 ax and the ability to update over cellular in the 2018 iPhones? Could it be that Apple wants to return to the days of releasing well-tested, cutting edge tech ahead of competitors?

I’d hold my breath but the urge to sigh is too strong.
 

Saipher

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With 5G who really needs FIOS? No wonder Verizon bailed out of the optical fiber business — they could see the writing on the wall.
They are going to need all the fiber they can get just to feed the 5G cell sites. It's still radio and you are still sharing the bandwidth with others.
They’ll continue to laying fiber backhaul, but fiber to the home is obsolete.
Yes, but then the fibre is used for back-haul data. Leveraging 5G for last-mile is ... potentially brilliant.
I wonder if Google will switch the home fiber business model to 5G since they are having trouble expanding into new territories due to the high costs associated with fiber infrastructure.
 
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