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A question to think about....

How many of you guys saying that Apple will never make a CDMA iPhone also said Apple would never make a tablet?

Just food for thought.

*takes a bite out of his apple, smiles benignly and leaves*
 
Unless Steve announces that an iPhone is coming to Verizon this summer at the WWDC I'm not going to hold my breath. AT&T works great in my area and for all my needs. Never been a fan of Verizon salesmen either, they've always pissed me off.
 
Unless Steve announces that an iPhone is coming to Verizon this summer at the WWDC I'm not going to hold my breath. AT&T works great in my area and for all my needs. Never been a fan of Verizon salesmen either, they've always pissed me off.

It's never a good idea to hold your breath waiting on Apple announcements. They have a talent for not giving you what you want/expect and turning around and giving you something you never thought of. ;)
 
I have no doubt that a Verizon-capable iPhone (or iPhone-capable Verizon network) is possible, and probable.

What I'm wondering is whether or not Verizon is going to be willing to give up their practice of customizing the operating system for EVERY FRIGGIN DEVICE that goes on their network. Every Verizon phone I have had, from simple phone to WinMo Phones had a Verizon-customized OS load that wasn't simply branding. The set-top box for FiOS has Verizon customized firmware, as does the associated router. The fact they do that doesn't frustrate me; it's the bad execution.

I don't see Steve Jobs letting Verizon do anything more than letting their network name appear next to the signal strength indicator and in Settings. Is Verizon willing to give up that control?
 
I have no doubt that a Verizon-capable iPhone (or iPhone-capable Verizon network) is possible, and probable.

What I'm wondering is whether or not Verizon is going to be willing to give up their practice of customizing the operating system for EVERY FRIGGIN DEVICE that goes on their network. Every Verizon phone I have had, from simple phone to WinMo Phones had a Verizon-customized OS load that wasn't simply branding. The set-top box for FiOS has Verizon customized firmware, as does the associated router. The fact they do that doesn't frustrate me; it's the bad execution.

I don't see Steve Jobs letting Verizon do anything more than letting their network name appear next to the signal strength indicator and in Settings. Is Verizon willing to give up that control?

It's been pointed out several times that they did on the Droid.
 
I had to register with this site JUST to say that that is a straight up lie. ESN changes can be done online at www.vzw.com or by dialing *228 on the phone you wish to activate. The process takes all but two minutes, if that, and would NEVER by any means take anywhere near 48 hours. Furthermore, you never even need to contact customer service or speak with a CSR at all, it's all done automatically and with recorded sayings, not a live human being. I change phones multiple times a month.

I now don't believe any of your so-called "results."



I also love how this site is all supposed Apple supporters, but they are whole heartedly against having Apple making MORE REVENUE by offering their devices on multiple carriers in the U.S. Ridiculous.

When they port a number wrong and *228 activates the wrong number you can't just go through the automated system. :rolleyes:

And business accounts are different from consumer accounts
 
...I don't see Steve Jobs letting Verizon do anything more than letting their network name appear next to the signal strength indicator and in Settings. Is Verizon willing to give up that control?
It's been pointed out several times that they did on the Droid.

So the answer is "yes" ? :)

Thanks. I don't pay much attention to Droid and haven't kept current. Guess it's all about the money.
 
When they port a number wrong and *228 activates the wrong number you can't just go through the automated system. :rolleyes:

And business accounts are different from consumer accounts

Porting is going from one carrier to another. Switching phones is not the same thing, nor do they "activate the wrong number." Sorry but when you're dialing from the phone you're activating, they aren't going to magically activate a different phone.
And who said I have a consumer account? Hahah. These are the most biased, uneducated forums I've ever seen.
 
Porting is going from one carrier to another. Switching phones is not the same thing, nor do they "activate the wrong number." Sorry but when you're dialing from the phone you're activating, they aren't going to magically activate a different phone.
And who said I have a consumer account? Hahah. These are the most biased, uneducated forums I've ever seen.

And yes porting is carrier to carrier. We have T-Mobile as well. Many users switch between the two depending on where they work, live, etc.
Ports get messed up all the time.

And you obviously must be calling a different call center ;) because the reps we get manage to screw that up more than you'd think.
Users break a phone and we have to replace it with one of our older phones so we need to transfer the service to the other device by switching the number to a different ESN. More often than not, this never goes as planned the first time due to some stupid rep who can't do their job on Verizon's end.

SIM cards are amazing.
 
And you obviously must be calling a different call center ;) because the reps we get manage to screw that up more than you'd think.
Users break a phone and we have to replace it with one of our older phones so we need to transfer the service to the other device by switching the number to a different ESN. More often than not, this never goes as planned the first time due to some stupid rep who can't do their job on Verizon's end.

SIM cards are amazing.

That wasn't my experience. I had 1 or 2 snafu's, usually due to data plan issues, but for the most part it's painless.
 
please

"Implementations of the CDMA2000 standard currently used by many carriers around the world, ..."
define many. CDMA was never able to establish itself significantly outside of North America while GSM is used on 3 billion phones. Hmmm.
 
As an ex-Verizon customer, I will never go back to them, even if they get the iPhone, voice and data at the same time, and a faster 4G type of network.

The biggest issue with Verizon is that they like to nickle and dime you for everything. When I was with them they disabled all the built in features on my phone and then wanted to charge me money to have me install V-Cast based apps that did the same as the native phone apps. Or they wanted to charge me for every little feature I wanted. I went from paying over $140 a month to $60 a month when I switched from Verizon to AT&T.
 
"Implementations of the CDMA2000 standard currently used by many carriers around the world, ..."
define many. CDMA was never able to establish itself significantly outside of North America while GSM is used on 3 billion phones. Hmmm.

CDMA is used in the blue countries on this map.
 
"Implementations of the CDMA2000 standard currently used by many carriers around the world, ..."
define many. CDMA was never able to establish itself significantly outside of North America while GSM is used on 3 billion phones. Hmmm.

Many = 311
 
Think of it this way.... Since the iPad was not under the AT&T contract, and the iPad was supposed to be vendor neutral.... Why didn't they open it up to other networks like T-Mobile or Verizon and test the waters instead of making it another AT&T exclusive device ?


A question to think about....

How many of you guys saying that Apple will never make a CDMA iPhone also said Apple would never make a tablet?

Just food for thought.

*takes a bite out of his apple, smiles benignly and leaves*
 
And yes porting is carrier to carrier. We have T-Mobile as well. Many users switch between the two depending on where they work, live, etc.
Ports get messed up all the time.

And you obviously must be calling a different call center ;) because the reps we get manage to screw that up more than you'd think.
Users break a phone and we have to replace it with one of our older phones so we need to transfer the service to the other device by switching the number to a different ESN. More often than not, this never goes as planned the first time due to some stupid rep who can't do their job on Verizon's end.

SIM cards are amazing.

There is no need to call a "call center" ..? You dial *228 and select from one of the options, press a button, wait about a minute - your phone is activated.
 
Me either. Even though I'm 21, I don't see a point in being able to do so many things at once on your phone. JUST CALL SOMEONE. You don't need to be talking, texting, and surfing the web at the same time. I can't think of a point in my life where I can't wait 5 minutes to look up something online on a laptop/netbook/whatever.

Do we REALLY need to be able to do so much at once?
Your job apparently doesn't have you on frequent, hour-plus long WebEx conferences (at random hours), apparently. :eek:
 
There is no need to call a "call center" ..? You dial *228 and select from one of the options, press a button, wait about a minute - your phone is activated.
That may work activating a new phone, but not for moving an existing line of service to a new device. You have to do an esn swap, which requires going online or calling Verizon. On a gsm phone, you simply swap SIM cards
 
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