Very odd hidden harddrive problem

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  1. juliancs macrumors 6502

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    Hi folks.

    I have a 1TB external harddrive plugged into my MBP, called "1TB". Now, when I set my WoW videos to record there, it recorded to a place called "1TB 1". I cannot find this anywhere. Sometimes, if I am installing something, the "1TB" and the "1TB 1" show up as two drives, as selectable drives. If I display all drives in terminal, both "1TB" and "1TB 1" are there. Under disk utility, the mount point of "1TB" is under \Volumes\1TB 1.

    Does that make sense? And if so, how on earth do I find this 1TB 1 and delete/look at it? Does anyone know, why when set to record 1TB, it created a new thing called 1TB 1?

    Many thanks and sorry fo the confusion - i dontknow how else to describe it.

    Julian
     
  2. Bill Gates macrumors 68020

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    Disconnect the hard drive, and tell me the output of "ls -l /Volumes/".
     
  3. juliancs thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Thanks fo the reply. This is what I get:

    JulianCS:~ Julian$ ls -l /Volumes/
    total 24
    drwxr-xr-x 5 Julian admin 170 25 Mar 10:21 1TB
    lrwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 1 8 Aug 18:10 Macintosh HD -> /
    drwxr-xr-x 1 Julian staff 8192 8 Aug 17:01 Untitled


    "Untitled" is my windows partition. I know the 1TB is showing up, but it is disconnected.
     
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    Be certain that the external drive is disconnected, and type "rm -rf /Volumes/1TB"
     
  5. juliancs thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Thanks for sticking with me on this. Nothin happens when I enter that command.

    I restarted the computer with the harddrive detached, and put the
    "ls -l /Volumes/" in again, and only
    "total 24
    lrwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 1 8 Aug 18:10 Macintosh HD -> /
    drwxr-xr-x 1 Julian staff 8192 8 Aug 17:01 Untitled
    "
    Showed up.

    Hope this helps! Again, thanks so much, want to get this sorted!
     
  6. Bill Gates macrumors 68020

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    When you connect the external drive now, you should see only "1TB 1" since we deleted the other mount point. You should be able to rename "1TB 1" to "1TB" if you like. Run an installer of any kind and check what hard drives show up.
     
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    If you only see "1TB" and not "1TB 1" then check and make sure that 1TB is valid; that it's accessing your external hard drive. If it is, then it sounds like it's fixed.
     
  9. juliancs thread starter macrumors 6502

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    working as usual. The thing, there were recorded movies (from my game) on that "1TB 1". where are they now?
     
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    I hope you didn't have anything valuable in "1TB 1." I surmised that you had just started having this problem which is why I instructed to you delete "1TB 1," which is what "rm -rf" did. You also specified that you wanted to delete it in your first post. If you didn't backup anything from that folder through time machine or another method I'm afraid that it's lost. :( You could try running recovery software on the drive.

    Edit: Aslo check and make sure they aren't on your external drive. If the mount point was "1TB 1" then the videos should have recorded to the root of the drive. If not, they have been deleted.
     
  11. juliancs thread starter macrumors 6502

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    No, nothing important, jsut curious about the free space. Out of curiosity, why did we "delete" "1TB" and not type in 1TB 1?

    Thanks so much for your help, by the way.
     
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    The mount points are automatically created when a drive is detected. Since that folder remained when the drive was disconnected, I had assumed it to be a static mount point that shouldn't be there.
     
  13. juliancs thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Umm, I just opened my harddrive, and its blank...the one I was using. All 1TB of my data...
     
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    That shouldn't be the case. If the data was on the hard drive and it was disconnected then the data should all be there. Are you sure you were saving the data to the hard drive in the first place? We didn't touch the drive, and the mount point was "1TB 1" not "1TB" that we deleted.
     
  15. juliancs thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Sorry, I'm a little shaken now - I've just lost about 6 years of data. What data are you talking about that I was saving? All I know is my drive is empty
     
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    What shows up in disk utility when the drive is connected? Nothing should be lost since we didn't touch the external drive. We only deleted a mount point from the internal drive. If the data was on the external drive then nothing has been deleted.
     
  17. juliancs thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Just the 1TB. It tells me the whole drive is empty space - 931GB... so when we typed "rm -rf /Volumes/1TB", should we of not made that "1TB 1" ? Seeing as that was the unwanted phantom drive?
     
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    The "Volumes" directory contains mount points. If the 1TB drive was disconnected when you ran the "rm -rf" command, the only thing that could be deleted is a folder/mount on the internal drive. Nothing on the external drive was touched when that command was run. Are you sure that you had been saving data to the external drive all this time? Had you heard the drive operating, seen the activity light, etc.?
     
  19. juliancs thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Well, yes - I had about 700GB of stuff there - would not have fit on my internal drive. Itunes can't find the songs on the drive, and if i double click to open, it tells me the full think is empty, and nothing shows up.

    I'm running filesalvage on it now, but I dont have 1TB of space to load it off to.
     
  20. Bill Gates macrumors 68020

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    Ok, let's try something. Go into the terminal, and type "diskutil list". Also type "ls -l /Volumes/". What is the output?
     
  21. juliancs thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Output from first is:
    "Julian$ 0: GUID_partition_scheme *298.1 Gi disk0
    1: EFI 200.0 Mi disk0s1
    2: Apple_HFS Macintosh HD 215.9 Gi disk0s2
    3: Microsoft Basic Data 81.9 Gi disk0s3
    /dev/disk1
    #: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER
    0: GUID_partition_scheme *931.5 Gi disk1
    1: EFI 200.0 Mi disk1s1
    2: Apple_HFS 1TB 931.2 Gi disk1s2
    /dev/disk2
    #: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER
    0: Apple_partition_scheme *100.0 Mi disk2
    1: Apple_partition_map 31.5 Ki disk2s1
    2: Apple_HFS FileSalvage™ 100.0 Mi disk2s2
    /dev/disk3
    #: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIE #:0: FDisk_partition_scheme *2-bash: 0:: command not found
    JulianCS:~ Julian$ 1: EFI 200.0 Mi disk0s1
    -bash: 1:: command not found
    JulianCS:~ Julian$ 2: Apple_HFS Macintosh HD 215.9 Gi disk0s2
    -bash: 2:: command not found
    JulianCS:~ Julian$ 3: Microsoft Basic Data 81.9 Gi disk0s3
    -bash: 3:: command not found
    JulianCS:~ Julian$ /dev/disk1
    -bash: /dev/disk1: Permission denied
    JulianCS:~ Julian$ #: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER
    JulianCS:~ Julian$ 0: GUID_partition_scheme *931.5 Gi disk1
    -bash: 0:: command not found
    JulianCS:~ Julian$ 1: EFI 200.0 Mi disk1s1
    -bash: 1:: command not found
    JulianCS:~ Julian$ 2: Apple_HFS 1TB 931.2 Gi disk1s2
    -bash: 2:: command not found
    JulianCS:~ Julian$ /dev/disk2
    -bash: /dev/disk2: No such file or directory
    JulianCS:~ Julian$ #: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER
    JulianCS:~ Julian$ 0: Apple_partition_scheme *100.0 Mi disk2
    -bash: 0:: command not found
    JulianCS:~ Julian$ 1: Apple_partition_map 31.5 Ki disk2s1
    -bash: 1:: command not found
    JulianCS:~ Julian$ 2: Apple_HFS FileSalvage™ 100.0 Mi disk2s2
    -bash: 2:: command not found
    JulianCS:~ Julian$ /dev/disk3
    -bash: /dev/disk3: Permission denied
    JulianCS:~ Julian$ #: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIE #:0: FDisk_partition_scheme *279.5 Gi disk3
    JulianCS:~ Julian$ 1: DOS_FAT_32 UNTITLED 279.4 Gi disk3s1
    -bash: 1:: command not found
    JulianCS:~ Julian$
    "

    Output from second is:
    "JulianCS:~ Julian$ ls -l /Volumes/
    total 88
    drwxrwxr-x 6 Julian staff 272 9 Aug 20:00 1TB
    lrwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 1 8 Aug 18:10 Macintosh HD -> /
    drwxrwxrwx 1 Julian staff 32768 9 Aug 20:16 UNTITLED 1
    drwxr-xr-x 1 Julian staff 8192 8 Aug 17:01 Untitled
    "
     
  22. Bill Gates macrumors 68020

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    And what is the output of ls "/Volumes/UNTITLED 1/" and ls /Volumes/Untitled/ ?
     
  23. juliancs thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Sorry I type that into Terminal? One of them is my windows partition and one of them is my other external haddrive that im using as a dump from the file recovery.
     
  24. Bill Gates macrumors 68020

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    Yes, into terminal. Do both commands even though one is the internal drive because something is screwy with your system.

    Edit: You need the quotes for the 1st one since it has a space in the name and you also didn't type "ls"
     
  25. juliancs thread starter macrumors 6502

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    JulianCS:~ Julian$ /Volumes/UNTITLED 1/
    -bash: /Volumes/UNTITLED: is a directory

    Second:
    JulianCS:~ Julian$ ls /Volumes/Untitled/
    $Recycle.Bin Program Files
    BASSMOD.DLL Program Files (x86)
    BOOTSECT.BAK ProgramData
    Boot Recovery
    Config.Msi System Volume Information
    Documents and Settings Users
    Electronic Arts Warhammer Online - Age of Reckoning
    Fraps Windows
    Modstudio bootmgr
    NVIDIA hiberfil.sys
    PerfLogs pagefile.sys
    JulianCS:~ Julian$
     

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