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Bad caps on my Soyo motherboard a couple years ago caused my PC's RAM to have glitches, two drives to fail before their warranty expiration, and a video card to get flaky. And, of course, my mobo was the last thing I replaced.

No more Soyo for me. I understand a lot of manufacturers got hurt by the bad caps - but I heard some of them had return programs. Soyo didn't.
 
All these bad capacitors are all so that they can keep prices low on these machines. Google up what these capacitors on these computers are, and what there life expectancy is. For the most part, although the computer industry does not want to mention it this is planned obselesence. This is why they sell extended warranties. If they made the machine right in the first place they would cost way more, and AppleCare would not exist. In the case of the eMac, I do not think Apple will ever do a repair extension for it, I am still not seeing any 1.25GHz eMacs come through that need repairs. However we are seeing about three to five 1.6-2.0GHz G5 iMacs a day, and we live in a fairly small community. All the iMacs either have a blown power supply, or the logic board has blown or swollen capcaictors.
 
There was no planning involved here. A company somewhere in Asia stole a formula for capacitors that was flawed, produced flawed caps, which were sold industry-wide, including to Apple. Apple used the badcaps in their iMac G5 and eMac G4 computers. For whatever reason, the iMac started showing symptoms immediately, whereas the eMac has taken 18months for the caps to leak.

One school in the USA with 11 computer labs (30+ eMacs each) has reported 80% of the computers showing with badcaps. Several small businesses with 4-12 eMacs have similar % rates. 22% of Apple's eMac forum hits are relating to this issue. And I don't sit around hitting reload all day, I assure you.

In the scale of things - with probably at least 500,000 eMacs made during the period involved, yes, it's small fish. No denying it. Few hundred peeved eMac owners... Who cares really? Apple should. Something like 80% of the people affected are first time Mac owners. That's a LOT of bad word of mouth from people who have had the courage to make the swap from PC land.
 
swingerofbirch said:
I don't remember what language we can use here, so I'll just say, Apple really fudged this one up.

I have an eMac as well that has had its share of problems and I am now concerned about this as my warranty will expire soon.

I went through the iBook logic board "me to Apple there is a systemic problem Apple to me it's all in your head Me no it's not Apple Ok you were right it's a logic board defect but we're gonna screw you over anyway and claim water damage" fiasco and I don't wanna again.

Does Apple have spotty quality worse than other PC makers, or do we just bring it to the light cos we have a community?

Hi swinger
get the extended warranty NOW.Once warranty expires you're S.O.L and Apple Care turns to Apple Don't Care.
 
joelypolly said:
hopefully just a bad batch of capacitors and not a design issue

I think that is exactly right.bad caps and Apples are not the only computers
that got them. The problem is not so much the caps as Apples handling of the situation to date. Apple needs to fix this on ALL thier models that have bad caps. As for MasseyRacer he must have more money than I do if he thinks
$1000 as "cheap".
 
swingerofbirch said:
I don't remember what language we can use here, so I'll just say, Apple really fudged this one up.
The profanity filter is there for a reason. I let it do it's own ****ing work. :p
MasseyRacer said:
For the most part, although the computer industry does not want to mention it this is planned obselesence. This is why they sell extended warranties.
Well, this isn't so much "obsolescence" as much as "death". ;)
 
Video Artifacts

I just got the following notice for my Dell at work:

In some government departments, the Dell GX270 computer has encountered problems with the mother board. Dell has agreed to replace the mother board on all of their GX270 desktops at no cost to the departments.

There are approximately 5700 computers of the Dell GX270 model within the Managed Environment that will be effected.

Nice of Dell to do that. Apple?

iriejedi said:
Probably the same capacitors Dell uses. At our company our Optiplex GX270s and other models were suffering from many blown and buldging capacitors. Dell claimed it was a bad lot and fixed many monther boards in 24 hours, a few on site.

So I guess there is a new QC manager position opening at Capacitor Corp!
 
My eMac has just started to exhibit this problem. At the moment turning it off and on again stops the problem for a few hours: but it gets continually worse by the hour each time I see it.

For me, the screen is full of little horizontal lines, that are only seen when something is moving, from the track position marker in iTunes to playing a DVD. Whenever any graphics are moving, the lines are around.

Now I've just got to wait until it gets bad enough to be seen whenever the machine is turned on every time. Then off I lug it to the Apple Shop, and demonstrate, and get it repaired (and my Applecare will be used for something!)
 
I picked up my eMac with a new mother board a few hours ago. Everything is working beautifully. Worlds of Warcraft runs great. Thank you Apple.

A thread with a happy ending. :)

See: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/211525/



Zygon Gambit said:
My eMac has just started to exhibit this problem. At the moment turning it off and on again stops the problem for a few hours: but it gets continually worse by the hour each time I see it.

For me, the screen is full of little horizontal lines, that are only seen when something is moving, from the track position marker in iTunes to playing a DVD. Whenever any graphics are moving, the lines are around.

Now I've just got to wait until it gets bad enough to be seen whenever the machine is turned on every time. Then off I lug it to the Apple Shop, and demonstrate, and get it repaired (and my Applecare will be used for something!)
 
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