Video Beagle's iPad Video App Review Report

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  1. VideoBeagle macrumors 6502a

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    I mentioned a week or two ago I was going to be doing a comprehensive test of several iPad apps. Several folks mentioned they wanted to see my report when I was done.

    Well after some RL delays, I'm done. A benefit of the delay was that 2 of the apps, OPlayer and CineXPlayer were updated while I was testing, so I was able to include those updates.

    The full report can be found here:
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10446018/iPad_Video_App_Test.pdf

    A quick rundown for the forum, but I recommend checking out the full report:

    The tests were done from a user POV, rather than a programmer. There was no rebooting, clearing of caches, or optimizing performances on any of the machines used. This was to see how they "just work", not "work under optimal conditions".

    I selected 26 videos of varying formats to test. They range in file size, codec, bitrate, and length. I mainly used music videos. I also used a longer video, similar to what might be found if someone were to download a tv episode off the internet.

    Software tested:
    iPad Videos (standard software)
    OPlayerHD Lite (version V1 & V1.0.7)
    Air Video Free (Version 2.2.4) with Air Video Server (v 2.2.7u1)
    CineXPlayer (version 1.1 & 1.2)

    Conclusions:
    Currently, there is not a “one-app-fits-all” solution for video on the iPad. Every program has it’s strengths, but also weaknesses that could be deal breakers depending on needs.

    Of the programs that store their own video, iPad Videos and CineXPlayer have the best quality playback, for the videos that they can play. They also have the most limited amount of playable video codecs.

    AirVideo has the best combination of playable codecs and quality, but it’s by design tied to a host computer. This makes it very useful for in-home use, but of very limited use (for me) once I step outside.

    OPlayer has the most potential for a total solution. There were significant improvements in quality between the two versions I tested, but there were still significant playback issues with many of the test videos.

    For now, a combination approach is the best way to go. Choosing the app for whichever video you want to carry with you. It’s also worth mentioning that rumors point to a VLC app for the iPad being available very soon, and based on it’s desktop version, that could change everything in the iPad video marketplace.
     
  2. matrix07 macrumors 68040

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    what app allow you to view video clip attachment in e-mail? My clients always send some clips for me in MPEG and sometimes WMV. What app you test can handle this?
     
  3. Amazing Iceman macrumors 68040

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    Why not wait a little longer for the VLC Player app to launch?

    Just a few more days, and VLC Player app will be out. Also, it will be free. Then we will have another choice, and my good feeling is that it's going to blow these other apps away!
     
  4. VideoBeagle thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I'll be doing an addendum with the same 26 videos once/if VLC comes out.

    I considered waiting, but I've been not getting this doe for a week, and in the meantime CinexPlayer updated, so I had to go back to testing, and if I play the wait for "x" I'll keep waiting as each player updates (I saw Air Player server updated as well after I was done testing). So I went ahead and published now, and I'll update as necessary.
     
  5. VideoBeagle thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Of the ones tested, if you look at the report, OPlayer does MPEGs and WMVs. How well is variable.

    I don't know if it can grab attachments from email, I haven't tried doing that.
     
  6. Methanoid macrumors newbie

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    Well I found it useful to see the reviews in your PDF. I'd love to see the updated one too when VLC Player is out.

    BTW, might be an idea to proof read the final document. A few typos and words missing too.

    There is another player, SharePlayer, that I think might be worth adding. Havent tried it though.

    CineXPlayer will do me though as Xvid is pretty much all I need. What WOULD be cool would be a player that played the files stored on a Samba share (such as a cheap NAS box).
     
  7. VideoBeagle thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Thanks.

    Yeah, once VNC is out, I'll do a revise, including the recent Air Video software updates. I saw something called ZumoCast which I might try as well.

    I sent the report to the developers of the programs, and the CineXPlayer were very responsive, addressing several of my concerns and asking for my test files (which I gave them). Like I said in the report, responsive developers doesn't necessarily make a better app, but it does make me feel good about a program.:)
     
  8. VideoBeagle thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Well VLC just came out..I'm at work so I can't load the test files..I'll try to get em going tonight.
     
  9. VideoBeagle thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Initial VLC Review: Total Fail

    Loaded the 26 test files thru iTunes. Opened VLC. See menu..with multi pinwheels over videos. Crashed on opening. Crashed second time. 3x.
    Power cycled iPad.
    Crashed.
     
  10. Methanoid macrumors newbie

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    Working perfectly on my 32gb Wifi. Watched an episode of Spartacus Blood n Sand without any issues. Sounds like your Pad is on blink?
     
  11. M87 macrumors 65816

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    I used VLC to watch a TV show the other night and it worked great. It's been my experience that yxplayer is the most versatile video player. It has played every file I've thrown at it (including .flv and .wmv). I hear people saying all the time that it is impossible to play flash video on the iPad, but this app does.
     
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    Actually all I want is a player that reliably plays Xvid with MP3 or AC3 sound. Bonus would be I could play direct from server via wifi without having to sync. I do like being able to delete files though and it puzzles me that VLC doesn't do that. BuzzPlayer works well. CineXplayer won't play AC3 which is a litle mad
     
  15. VideoBeagle thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Doesn't look like Buzzplayer has a free version, which was one of the criteria I was using for selecting an app. (CineXPlayer was free when I started, otherwise, it'd have been left off).
     
  16. VideoBeagle thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Hmm..I wasn't paying attention to the audio side of things. That's an excellent point. I'll need to yank some sample files to check AC3 as well. Thanks!
     
  17. Methanoid macrumors newbie

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    I've compared four...

    VLC = fail on AC3 as it plays but cannot hear and misses bits
    OPLayer - plays but out of sync
    CineXPlayer - politely reports a failure to play ;)
    Buzz - plays fine

    On interface I think oPLayer is godawful, VLC is simple enough, CineX tries too hard for my liking and why buttons in all 4 corners? Great French lady video telling you how to sync video though. Buzz is easy enough... but being written by another non-English author it doesnt always make sense. Much like OPlayer!

    I'd advise a purchase of Buzz. Seems pretty good to me. Are there any other Xvid players worth a try? YXPlayer?

    Ive not tried other formats cos lets be honest. Almost all downloadable TV shows etc come in Xvid, a few in DivX and HD rips in MKV containers. But Xvid dominates.
     
  18. VideoBeagle thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Yeah, OPlayer's file system is dreadful.

    Besides tv episodes, I do a lot of music video trading, and that's in every format....but moreover, I'd like a program that's one size fits all..though really, that's just not how the iPad seems to be:/:apple:
     
  19. hitekalex macrumors 68000

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    Do any of these players support Inter-application file exchange? I want to be able to transfer the video files from Good Reader to a player. Hate to have to connect to a computer via USB to do that.
     
  20. VideoBeagle thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I don't have good reader, but Drop Box can send to OPlayer.
    I didn't have any avi files in my drop box to see if CinexPlayer can do it.
     
  21. Methanoid macrumors newbie

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    I do NOT work for BUZZ but I thought I'd share... since this has now added the one feature I have particularly been looking for (samba network play)


    Dear customers,

    Thank you for using BUZZ Player!
    Thank you for your comment that helps BUZZ Player better!

    New version of BUZZ Player (1.1) is available in AppStore, please check it
    out!

    What's new in this version:
    ☆ Add Built-in Network Browser allows user to play and copy files from
    Widows/Mac/Linux PC and remote FTP servers. (SMB & FTP Support).

    ☆ Add feature to display embedded subtitle in videos files.

    ☆ Add feature to allow user to call BUZZ Player to play media files from
    external application such as mail, readers...

    ☆ Fix TVOut problem when using AV Component Cable.

    ☆ Fix screen aspect problem when play DVD file.

    ☆ Fix bug when play RTSP stream video with authentication.

    We are working to improve BUZZ Player every day, new version of BUZZ Player
    with new feature will be release soon. These feature will be release in the
    next version:
    1) Enable to remember and resume playing position of media.
    2) File Manager supports - That allows users to manage their
    files/folders easily.
    3) Web browser supports - That allows users to browse media file from a
    website and play it directly from BUZZ Player.
    4) Video/Audio/Subtitle stream selection - That allows users to select
    desired Video/Audio/Subtitle stream when play multi stream media.

    Thank you very much.

    Yours sincerely,
    BUGUN Software,
     
  22. hitekalex macrumors 68000

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    Does Buzz player support XviD video? I didn't see XViD/DiVX mentioned in the video format it supports.
     
  23. pruppert macrumors 6502

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    CinexPlayer can do that. I just downloaded a South Park episode in iCab and opened it in CinexPlayer. It was pretty sweet.
     
  24. Methanoid macrumors newbie

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    err yeah AND Xvix with AC3 which nothing else supports ;)
     

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