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These windows are small and the apps on the side are taking up too much room. And we have a dock below it all taking up more space. Amazing how Apple is trying to do everything they can to revamp the traditional windows gui, only to make something more cumbersome and resource intensive (we really need an M1 just to do that???).
This is Apple’s ongoing Band-Aid attempts to blur the gap between desktop OS and a mobile OS while refusing to merge them together like windows 8 did. Apple implementation in full display.
 
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Lol, 3 out of 5 are M1 only. 🤣🤣🤣
Honestly this is the most annoying thing ever…because I wanted so many of these features and they ended up on the M1 only. I really feel like Apple is going to start capping newer features to newer things. Like, maybe there is some crazy software only feature on the M2 iPad Pro…I am already annoyed. Like..if the M2 iPad Pro is the only one that can run “Pro Apps” or something.
 
Centre Stage looks cool but if we’re honest it’s an app switcher in a frock. No matter all the technical rationale I refuse to believe that it couldn’t have been made to work on non-M1 silicon. The 6k external monitor stuff, sure, but othetwuse I don’t buy it.
 
I have a smaller M1 iPad Pro and am curious if the app windows in Stage Manager view will be too small. It seems like screen space on the left is taken up by app stacks and the usable on-screen space is reduced.

I will download the first public beta to see and I can’t wait 😜
I disabled it because it was too small for me on the 12 Pro....It's a nice addition butI have a feeling it might be more useful if you use an external monitor.
 
These windows are small and the apps on the side are taking up too much room. And we have a dock below it all taking up more space. Amazing how Apple is trying to do everything they can to revamp the traditional windows gui, only to make something more cumbersome and resource intensive (we really need an M1 just to do that???).
Yes it does, for memory, nothing CPU related.

I agree on the wasted space, it makes it a no go for me as at this point i prefer the split screen.
 
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Limiting Stage Manager to M1-powered iPads only is ridiculous and needs to be rebelled against, IMO, as it will withhold it from about 80-90% of all iPads in circulation, including the currently sold mini and an entry iPad. Pre-M1 iPad Pros and Air 4 should be able to run it without any issues (they have enough RAM for it) and I am quite sure a standard iPad with its 3GB of RAM should be able to pull it too. Apple needs to expand it.

PS: Not so eager to use the app stack on the left myself, yet the window resizing would very handy.
 
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Do we have to have the windows on the side always And the dock?
You can disable both or one of them - by tapping on the round circle(s). This is accessible via control center I believe
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Yes it does, for memory, nothing CPU related.

I agree on the wasted space, it makes it a no go for me as at this point i prefer the split screen.
Well then you proved my point, we don’t need an m1, we just need ram!
 
Well then you proved my point, we don’t need an m1, we just need ram!
Since only the M1 have 8 gb of ram and the CPU has the ability to tap into the HD space for virtual ram, you need both actually..

My "nothing CPU" related was meant to be a "not speed related"I should have made that more clear.

M1 has ability with SSD for virtual ram the A12z doesn't have.
 
These windows are small and the apps on the side are taking up too much room. And we have a dock below it all taking up more space. Amazing how Apple is trying to do everything they can to revamp the traditional windows gui, only to make something more cumbersome and resource intensive (we really need an M1 just to do that???).

The implementation seems odd to me as well. Even on my huge 55" 4k PC monitor I almost never have windows partially open like that without them being snapped to the windows around it, and definitely not overlapping. It just seems like something that kind of looks cool when featured, drop shadows, switching back and forth seamlessly, etc., but in practice it's probably not how it would be used.

They really should have worked more on dynamic window snapping, if I resize a window to be an odd size then give me the option to snap it in place relative to the open windows around it, avoiding having to manually try to get it perfect every time.

Those side windows are also atrocious, both in aesthetic and functionality. I want to give up a large swath of my screen why? But it makes sense as for years Apple has tried to skirt around their awful dockbar, instead of just having a simple taskbar with peek capabilities.
 
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Stage Manager is just awful, even on my 12.9".

1. You lose at least 20% of your screen to two docks now (yes I know you can turn off one or both if needed).
2. The visual difference between the angled, 3D appearance of the Stage Manager recent apps dock and the bottom dock is jarring.
3. There isn't much difference between what the Stage Manager dock does and what the bottom dock does. Stage Manager is presenting your last 4 recently launched applications, but those could have been presented in the bottom dock. When you add another application on top of an existing one, you are essentially creating an "app group", and again that concept could have been handled by the bottom dock.
4. The angled screen images in the Stage Manager dock are too small to be useful. I'd rather have just icons (which is already what the bottom dock does, and we already have a way to present multiple icons in a group in folders - just design a way to present running groups differently from a folder).
5. The name is dumb. A "stage" isn't a real UI thing.

I truly hope these are Beta 1 issues pending additional feedback and testing. That being said floating windows are so close to being amazing and that concept is transformative on iPad.
 
Not sure if anyone can verify but it seems as if full screen external monitor support only works on stage manager. However, stage manager itself reduces the borders similar to how the black bars have been for years. Apple can claim full screen support but all the images I see are taken with stage manager. Feels like a scam so Apple can get people off their backs about it if true.
 
Stage Manager is just awful, even on my 12.9".

1. You lose at least 20% of your screen to two docks now (yes I know you can turn off one or both if needed).
2. The visual difference between the angled, 3D appearance of the Stage Manager recent apps dock and the bottom dock is jarring.
3. There isn't much difference between what the Stage Manager dock does and what the bottom dock does. Stage Manager is presenting your last 4 recently launched applications, but those could have been presented in the bottom dock. When you add another application on top of an existing one, you are essentially creating an "app group", and again that concept could have been handled by the bottom dock.
4. The angled screen images in the Stage Manager dock are too small to be useful. I'd rather have just icons (which is already what the bottom dock does, and we already have a way to present multiple icons in a group in folders - just design a way to present running groups differently from a folder).
5. The name is dumb. A "stage" isn't a real UI thing.

I truly hope these are Beta 1 issues pending additional feedback and testing. That being said floating windows are so close to being amazing and that concept is transformative on iPad.
Probably a feature to sell you on the bigger iPad that’s rumored to be coming. With the UI scaling so bad and the new “more space” feature is gonna want you to get the even bigger 14”!
 
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