Id go for both a subscription and a one time purchase. A subscription to check out new stuff I havent seen and the one time pay for movies id like to keep.
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Video iPod with 4 Inch Screen? iTunes Movies?
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Hey everyone....first time user here.
Looking for everyones opinion
I just sold a MINI and a 4G 20 gig Ipod and was planning on going out and getting a 30 gig 5G ipod. After hearing all this news of the new "true video" Ipod that may be out as soon as April i'm weary about spending the money on the current video Ipod.
Opinions
Thanks everyone
Looking for everyones opinion
I just sold a MINI and a 4G 20 gig Ipod and was planning on going out and getting a 30 gig 5G ipod. After hearing all this news of the new "true video" Ipod that may be out as soon as April i'm weary about spending the money on the current video Ipod.
Opinions
Thanks everyone
Seems to me that the whopping size of a 90-minute movie at even 640x480 quality would make it impractical to keep more than a handful of films on your hard drive at one time anyway.
Doesn't the Netflix x-movies-at-a-time model make more sense from the perspective of conserving drive space?
Doesn't the Netflix x-movies-at-a-time model make more sense from the perspective of conserving drive space?
Remember, This site is based mostly on "Rumors". Nobody really knows anything. Just use your best judgement. If you can wait, wait. But dont be surprised if it doesnt happen.dvrmstrng said:
Chaszmyr said:
It depends on how much the service would cost. If it's more than $15/month, then that would suck. Otherwise I'd like a "watch for 24 hours" system that only costs $1-$2/movie. I don't watch nearly that many movies in a month, especially on anything as small as a Video iPod.
freeny said:
It's always a balance of current need vs how much you'd kick yourself if a video iPod came out in April.
If it makes any difference, I would speculate a Video iPod would be a high end device rather than replacing the current iPods. Maybe the current 5G iPod would remain at a lower or same price point while the full-video iPod might be top end.
A shame, since Apple finally has conslidated the iPod line (no more "photo" vs non photo), but I suspect a full touch-screen iPod would have to cost more.
arn
That's awesome. While I don't think the video iPod will be as popular as the regular iPod and nano and shuffle, I do think there is demand for it. I know damn well I'd take one. I will use my 5G iPod most of the time, but the iPod video will be there for the train and flying - times when I'm not doing anything else at the same time. I'm sure a lot of other people could say the same.
As for the movies download system, I am on Jobs side. I hate subscription based music and video schemes entirely. Why? Because I'll buy a film that I think looks good and I'll watch it whenever I'm in the mood for that particular flight, whether it be the same day, or when I'm on a plane with an 8 hour flight six or so months later. I don't want to have a limit to the amount of times I can watch a film, or someone telling me I have to watch it by such a such a date. And I certainly don't want to be paying each month for X number of film rentals when I might only want one or two films one month and ten or more another.
As for the movies download system, I am on Jobs side. I hate subscription based music and video schemes entirely. Why? Because I'll buy a film that I think looks good and I'll watch it whenever I'm in the mood for that particular flight, whether it be the same day, or when I'm on a plane with an 8 hour flight six or so months later. I don't want to have a limit to the amount of times I can watch a film, or someone telling me I have to watch it by such a such a date. And I certainly don't want to be paying each month for X number of film rentals when I might only want one or two films one month and ten or more another.
yeah just based on what you guys have just said, i believe ill get the current video ipod. I dont have the money, or the use for a handheld device that holds tons of feature length movies. I'll never have any time to watch them. I need a music player, not a movie player.
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Thanks
Dumb question but... how much HD space does a downloaded movie take?
(I'm obviously not a pirate.)
Personally I love to own my music. I even prefer buying the CD's to downloading.
But I very rarely wanna watch a movie twice (especially movies made these days).
Subscription service or pay per view would be great.
(I'm obviously not a pirate.)
Personally I love to own my music. I even prefer buying the CD's to downloading.
But I very rarely wanna watch a movie twice (especially movies made these days).
Subscription service or pay per view would be great.
Jobs+Pixar+Disney=iTunes movie content?
This is where we will see the Disney-Pixar merger bloom. With Jobs on the Disney board with Iger we know where the first content deal will come from.
This is where we will see the Disney-Pixar merger bloom. With Jobs on the Disney board with Iger we know where the first content deal will come from.
It would have its disadvantages (and massive cool factor) but I do think would keep the regular music-centric iPod (at least the 30) as well. The full-screen one would be a high-end option for those who wanted it. It might one day become the entire line-up, but it might just remain the video-centric model while the main iPod stays music-centric with (in some ways like tactile feedback) better controls.LostPacket said:
That's what almost everyone already does!Chaszmyr said:
You rent movies for low-cost viewing of a LOT of different titles. Then you also buy the ones you really want to watch many times. And when you buy, you don't get your previous $4 rental or $7 movie ticket price back.
nagromme said:
This is absolutely right. Almost no one has the hard drive space to store even five or ten movies. The rumor from late last year about streaming (a la the incredible front row trailer streaming) seems like the best way to go on this issue.
This is cool for iPods (as long as battery life is increased and hard drive is increased in size). What about those of us that want to view the flicks on a home entertainment system? What will the quality be like? It would be pretty lame to watch iPod-quality video with 2 channel audio on a larger screen or projector and 5.1 audio system.
Consistency Across Apple's Services
Am I off base in thinking that the success of the iTMS hinges largely on its unique DRM model? Where iTMS users own copies of their data, the languishing competition went into this arena thinking they could outsmart Apple by providing a more financially efficient service, but without considering the permanence and simplicity that consumers desire, and are willing to pay for. I believe the success of these competitors speaks to their shortsightedness.
I would stipulate that the difference between the short media currently offered by the iTMS and full length feature films is enough to revisit the iTMS model. However, I tend to concur with Mr. Jobs with respect to maintaining consistency within the iTMS. Though not the most cost effective to the consumer when considering the price per instances viewed of a full length film, the desire for the simplicity and permanence of ownership among consumers, I believe, remains. Function, simplicity and style--it's what Apple is all about.
arn said:
Am I off base in thinking that the success of the iTMS hinges largely on its unique DRM model? Where iTMS users own copies of their data, the languishing competition went into this arena thinking they could outsmart Apple by providing a more financially efficient service, but without considering the permanence and simplicity that consumers desire, and are willing to pay for. I believe the success of these competitors speaks to their shortsightedness.
I would stipulate that the difference between the short media currently offered by the iTMS and full length feature films is enough to revisit the iTMS model. However, I tend to concur with Mr. Jobs with respect to maintaining consistency within the iTMS. Though not the most cost effective to the consumer when considering the price per instances viewed of a full length film, the desire for the simplicity and permanence of ownership among consumers, I believe, remains. Function, simplicity and style--it's what Apple is all about.
believe it when i see it
With respect to ThinkSecret, I'll believe it when I see it. I think it's obvious a full screen iPod is the next step in iPod development and the recent patent filings seem to confirm this.
Don't get me wrong, rumor sites are all well and good (and obviously I'm posting on one, so hey ), but it is annoying when the rumor sites quote "reliable" sources who give nothing more than vague and general information.
(stepping off the soap-box...)
I think the subscription model for video's makes a lot of sense. Customers are used to renting movies. Netflix's and Blockbuster are proving a monthly subscription can work well.
My biggest concern I would have is that iTunes users (those less tech savy) would not truly understand the difference between their "rented" movies and purchased music. Imagine an iTunes library full of files that you may or may not own... I'm confident Apple could find a way to differ the two types, but they need to do it in a way that doesn't confuse the consumer.
With respect to ThinkSecret, I'll believe it when I see it. I think it's obvious a full screen iPod is the next step in iPod development and the recent patent filings seem to confirm this.
Don't get me wrong, rumor sites are all well and good (and obviously I'm posting on one, so hey
), but it is annoying when the rumor sites quote "reliable" sources who give nothing more than vague and general information. (stepping off the soap-box...)
I think the subscription model for video's makes a lot of sense. Customers are used to renting movies. Netflix's and Blockbuster are proving a monthly subscription can work well.
My biggest concern I would have is that iTunes users (those less tech savy) would not truly understand the difference between their "rented" movies and purchased music. Imagine an iTunes library full of files that you may or may not own... I'm confident Apple could find a way to differ the two types, but they need to do it in a way that doesn't confuse the consumer.
I really hope Apple keeps the current iPod form, just increasing the 3.5" screen to a 4". I like the current iPod line.
Even though a touch screen sounds nice (it's great on my Treo 650), I don't think I'd want it on the iPod. I can see a high-end device made specifically for movies, but when I'm driving or walking around with my iPod in my pocket, the click wheel is really the best method to skip songs with my iPod in my pocket. I remember having all sorts of issues with the 3G touch-sensitive iPod, and everything was fixed for me with the 4G.
If they do come out with a new wide-screen, touch screen iPod, at least lower the price of the current models and bump up the hard drive to 80GB+ and I'll be a happy camper.
Fishes,
narco.
Even though a touch screen sounds nice (it's great on my Treo 650), I don't think I'd want it on the iPod. I can see a high-end device made specifically for movies, but when I'm driving or walking around with my iPod in my pocket, the click wheel is really the best method to skip songs with my iPod in my pocket. I remember having all sorts of issues with the 3G touch-sensitive iPod, and everything was fixed for me with the 4G.
If they do come out with a new wide-screen, touch screen iPod, at least lower the price of the current models and bump up the hard drive to 80GB+ and I'll be a happy camper.
Fishes,
narco.