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Video iPod?

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Appleinsider claims that upcoming 4th generation iPods may have some interesting new video capabilities.

While not quite the "video iPod" that many have speculated, the rumored iPod will reportedly be able to show video clips on televisions via an advanced Dock which would provide for video-out.

Meanwhile MacPlus's iTunes Europe article from yesterday also referenced upcoming video capabilities in the iPod, but had not been otherwise confirmed.
 

el_aarono

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interesting...

Hmmm... I anticipate that the video part of the iPod will be targeted at music videos (but will be able to do other stuff as well, of course), which will then be available for download via the iTunes music store. Seems to be the next step. According to Steve J. people don't want to download full-length films, but downloading just one music video wouldn't be so bad.

That's my take on this.

-Later
 

sw1tcher

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Looks interesting

So can we expect to see this announced at WWDC along with new PM G5s?
 

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The article says that the iPod would operate as a firewire disk when the dock's video out connector was used. So you are just playing back any movies that happen to be stored on the iPod disk, not using the iPod's own interface (buttons and display).

This feature would certainly increase the demand for high-capacity iPods!
 

Beck446

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A TV out is a much better idea than playing videos on that small screen. Now if only we could put WiFi in the iPod. Anyway, surely this will start more Apple Set-top box rumors; the link here, I think, is obvious.
 

yoda13

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I just can't seem to save for a G5. Now I am going to have to buy one of these to add to my 1st gen iPod :D
 

Mord

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This is what i said they would be like around 2 months ago "they will have no playback on screen but they will have video out" and everyone said rubbish :mad: :mad:
 

sw1tcher

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Doctor Q said:
This feature would certainly increase the demand for high-capacity iPods!

Not to mention increasiing the price of the iPod too.
 

Abstract

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The article says that the iPod would operate as a firewire disk when the dock's video out connector was used. So you are just playing back any movies that happen to be stored on the iPod disk, not using the iPod's own interface (buttons and display).

Maybe I'm missing something here, but if you have a zillion movies and small clips on your iPod, how will you choose which video to watch if you can't use the iPod to select a movie file?
 

Darwin

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Abstract said:
Maybe I'm missing something here, but if you have a zillion movies and small clips on your iPod, how will you choose which video to watch if you can't use the iPod to select a movie file?

Im sure when you plug the iPod into a TV it will have a simple interface that will be shown on the TV screen that you can conrol with the iPod buttons :)
 

Mattski

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Movie Icon in iTunes

This would certainly fit in with the iTunes movie icon found in the iTunes package.

Check it out:
/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/Resources/iTunes-movie.icns
 

Ja Di ksw

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old iPods

Ok, so if this involves a new doc, and doesn't use the iPod except as a HD, would it be possible to use the old iPods with this, assuming you bought the new doc and had a firmware update or something? Not that I would really use this, at least not that much, just interested
 

Veldek

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Hmm, I somehow doubt this, because I can’t see me carrying not only the iPod but the whole dock to a TV, then perhaps selecting the movie while the IPod is sitting in the dock to have the connection. This doesn’t sound very Apple-like. Perhaps thay found another much easier way but I can’t think of one which involves the dock and a cable.
 

Trowaman

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If this happens I can already see where gen 5 will go.

-Charge on wireless firewire :D
-Broadcast via Bluetooth :D

Other features I think the iPods could currently use right now:

-Color LCD
-Ability to browse you iPhoto library
-Radio

These are what I'm preceiving as the major potential breakthroughs, but this is just me. The problem I see with iPhoto is windows users, I would not think that Apple will port iPhoto over to windows as well.
 

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Must be fully multi-standard

Unless this is fully multistandard, it sucks. PAL B/NTSC is not enough.
I, for one, need PAL B/PAL N/NTSC.
 

Trowaman

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Ja Di ksw said:
Ok, so if this involves a new doc, and doesn't use the iPod except as a HD, would it be possible to use the old iPods with this, assuming you bought the new doc and had a firmware update or something? Not that I would really use this, at least not that much, just interested

I would think it would be just buy a new dock, or i hope so at least. Might be iPod software 3.0 which would me 4th gen only. Who knows at this point.
 

Veldek

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Trowaman said:
Other features I think the iPods could currently use right now:

-Color LCD
-Ability to browse you iPhoto library
-Radio

These are what I'm preceiving as the major potential breakthroughs, but this is just me. The problem I see with iPhoto is windows users, I would not think that Apple will port iPhoto over to windows as well.

I don’t think we will see iPhoto integration, but I also hope for a color screen and the ability to put photos from your digicam on your iPod and browse them, and then import them into iPhoto later directly from your iPod.
 

SiliconAddict

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WHEN? WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN?!?!?


I have a July 7th - 14th trip planned. I want to get an iPod but need something larger then 40GB. Come on apple. Screw the video. Give us at least a 50GB iPod. And if possible a color OLED display for that cover art I spent weeks downloading for my ripped CD's.
 

suzerain

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iPod as personal DVR

Steve Jobs keeps saying [paraphrasing] "We think that people don't want to watch films on a tiny little screen." What I never understood about this was the fact that there are...like...you know...more things than films to encode into video.

Personally, I think an Apple USB TV tuner + personal DVR software + a video iPod would be a killer app. If it could encode TV in real-time into MPEG4, and then I could either watch on my computer, or transfer to my video iPod, then they would have something.

For one, I might just get an LCD television and put a Mac at the center of my home entertainment center instead of my cable box and stereo.

For two, if I am on the subway in the morning, it might be nice to watch last night's crappy network sitcom instead of reading the paper, which would mean the night before I could go out instead of sitting on my couch watching TV.

I mean, come on, people don't watch sitcoms or game shows or soap operas or whatever for the amazing video quality...
 

BrianKonarsMac

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does anybody remember the rumors of apple getting into the "projector" market? i heard that they were trying to incorporate something like that into a video ipod, so you could play videos on a wall. wouldn't this be far to hot/bulky of a product? maybe thats why it was just a rumor?
suzerain said:
Steve Jobs keeps saying [paraphrasing] "We think that people don't want to watch films on a tiny little screen." What I never understood about this was the fact that there are...like...you know...more things than films to encode into video.

Personally, I think an Apple USB TV tuner + personal DVR software + a video iPod would be a killer app. If it could encode TV in real-time into MPEG4, and then I could either watch on my computer, or transfer to my video iPod, then they would have something.

I mean, come on, people don't watch sitcoms or game shows or soap operas or whatever for the amazing video quality...

suzerain needs to talk with steve but i'd rather have a firewire/PCI-X TV Tuner, usb's bandwidth blows (then again we FINALLY have usb 2.0). I want my Mac to be my digital hub...but if i can't use it as a DVR/ HD TV/DVD Player/HD Monitor for PS3,XBOX Next, etc. then what kind of a digital hub is it? i have more to do than email and transfer music to my iPod, give me a real digital hub!
 

JFreak

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Veldek said:
I don’t think we will see iPhoto integration.

why not? add a simple backup function to isync and store your photos into ipod. you know, there are no negative backups in the digital era, so it becomes imprtant to be able to easily backup the photo library. i have waited this feature a long time and would buy an ipod instantly if they did this. now i'm waiting, but not because of this but the minis are not sold in europe yet. however, if the next gen regular ipod has this feature, i will choose it instead of mini.
 

Beck446

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video out isnt that appealing to me tho.

Me neither. But surely this isn't all the update would get. I mean, all video out really entails is a fancy doc with new firmware. We should also be seeing better batter, color LCD, more storage, ect..

Plus, Home on iPod IS a killer APP. Now this would really get more people to buy Mac computers...
 

Squire

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SiliconAddict said:
I want to get an iPod but need something larger then 40GB. Come on apple. Screw the video. Give us at least a 50GB iPod. And if possible a color OLED display for that cover art I spent weeks downloading for my ripped CD's.

Larger hard drives- even on an iPod- are always welcome. I think more and more people are using Backup with iPods, making larger capacities a real asset.

Veldek said:
I don’t think we will see iPhoto integration, but I also hope for a color screen and the ability to put photos from your digicam on your iPod and browse them, and then import them into iPhoto later directly from your iPod.

Yeah, that Belkin card reader has one too many steps: removal of the memory card. I'd like to plug my camera right into my iPod and download that way. That would rule. Other video capabilities? Hmmm...I don't know how useful it would be on all models. Maybe the top-of-the-line would benefit by staying competitive with other video-capable products.

Squire
 
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