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Video iPod?

There's no way I'd pay $1.99 for a music video. A music video is basically an advertisement and is approached that way...that's kind of why they're offered for free on iTunes, because it's just another preview to get you to buy a song. I think making people pay to "own" music videos would just be greedy.

Ok, that was totally off topic. Just give me a color screen that shows album art and an FM tuner and I'm set baby...none of this video junk.
 
I reckon that this feature would most likley to be an enhancement to the photo storage facility - allowing you to play slideshows on a screen.

Might be nice, especially if you could simply set transitions and choose background music.
 
if this is true, there will obviously be a software update. included in that update, it would be nice to see the "home on ipod" function. i dont know if thats a computer os update instead, or what, but i agree that the ipod should become more functional.

btw- i have little use for video on my ipod, but i could change my mind if all i had to buy was a new dock.
 
JDOG_ said:
There's no way I'd pay $1.99 for a music video. A music video is basically an advertisement and is approached that way...that's kind of why they're offered for free on iTunes, because it's just another preview to get you to buy a song. I think making people pay to "own" music videos would just be greedy.

Ok, that was totally off topic. Just give me a color screen that shows album art and an FM tuner and I'm set baby...none of this video junk.
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You people are funny. Apple hasn't even announced anything yet. I think putting the music videos and movie trailers was done for two things, 1. to sell more music (it worked on me) and 2. to work out bandwidth issues for future video sales.

Anyone who thinks that selling movies on the Internet is not something that is needed now is crazy. Movies are being pirated at an alarming rate and the illegal Movie download business is quickly rivaling the illegal music download business with all the same quality issues as well.
 
Just give me a line in that does more than 8KHz... I guarantee musicians who record their practice sessions would dump their minidisc recorders and get an ipod. Sony is introducing 1GB minidisc products this year. I know, no one in the US uses them except musicians but having an ipod that recorded at an acceptable level would open up more of a market than video capabilities IMHO. Many music teachers require students to have a portable recording device... why not an ipod?
 
Steven1621 said:
apple needs to get to this before the others
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Why? It will be a useless resource-absorbing appendage?

Unless they have some killer app-appendage to wodge on the side of iTunes to justify this sort of technological inrtoduction to a market leading product, I really can't see any worth in it.

Of course, that's just my opinion and I've been in a bad mood all day. I might be a little more open to the idea tomorrow.
 
saxman said:
Just give me a line in that does more than 8KHz... I guarantee musicians who record their practice sessions would dump their minidisc recorders and get an ipod.
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musicians who record their practice sessions and care about quality have already dumped the minidisc for good - the mbox is so cheap it's almost a crime not to use it when there's a need. with mbox (350usd) you get 24bit studio quality, with ipod (350usd) you'd probably get 16bit through crappy a/d converter. which one would you choose? :)

seriously, that won't happen. ever. ipod stands for all-digital lifestyle, and analog line-in has bad quality written all over it. and so is the fm radio. i can't understand why people keep asking these... it would be like asking an opera singer to record a heavily compressed pop hit ;) capable of anything, asked to do nothing...
 
I see a video iPod as having quite a few uses other than just playback of full-length movies, which, as Jobs indicated, "people don't want to do" (to paraphrase). Having this basic video integration for starters could pave the way for future viedo applications, and eventually the ability to watch movies, etc. right on the iPod. But for now, start off with music videos, maybe iPhoto slideshows, whatever else, and go from there.

Actually, since you can dump your digital photos to the iPod via the flash card reader, why not dump those 30-second digital movies you film with your digital camera as well?

Regardless of what functionality is introduced though, I think if you start talking about video/images, you absolutely need to start talking about a color screen. And this leads us into the old deabtes about battery life, etc. etc...
 
Video camera ipod

The video out function seems like it would be too easy. You can already put a video on your ipod, at least for storage.

What it really needs is a video camera. Samsung and others already have hard disc video cameras. It seems the only real reason to get the ipod together with video. Otherwise, I'm with Jobs that no one wants to watch video on their ipod.
 
imovie???

Did you ever think that maybe they will use imovie with this new ipod? I mean it has the capability to do so. It can export to Mp4 and with iM 4 you can create a movie to work with bluetooth.

Another possiblity would be to make a imovie movie store. instead of you downloading a whole movie, you have it on a cart and as soon as you plug in your new ipod it downloads the movie right from the store. I also think that apple is going to switch now to movies. They went through music now try the movie market. Just a thought
 
Georgesimian said:
It seems the only real reason to get the ipod together with video. Otherwise, I'm with Jobs that no one wants to watch video on their ipod.
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...except the people here who've said they want to watch video on their iPods... ;)
 
jtquick2001 said:
Another possiblity would be to make a imovie movie store. instead of you downloading a whole movie, you have it on a cart and as soon as you plug in your new ipod it downloads the movie right from the store. I also think that apple is going to switch now to movies. They went through music now try the movie market. Just a thought
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Yeah, there was talk of that a long time ago except people (members here) were predicting the QuickTime Movie Store. I know there are a ton of issues concerning bandwidth and such but Apple has to beat the competition to this download business as well. Asia's particularly notorious, but illegally downloading movies is beginning to take a bite out of Hollywood's pockets. And with that "Most Influential in Hollywood" article a little while back, you have to wonder if Jobs & Co. are already onto this.

As for video capabilities on an iPod, I still can't see how it would benefit the majority of iPod users. Movies...nah. Pics from iPhoto...cute feature but nothing I'd pay a premium for. Maybe all this video talk is just to keep it (the iPod) ahead of the competition. I mean, if Sony's doing it...

Squire
 
How about they release a new iPod that's about the size of a large tower. One that has dual G5 processors at up to 3Ghz and a hard drive and an optical drive and a kickin' video card. In silver! With perforations on the front.

Now, that would be an iPod I'd be all over!

:rolleyes:
 
tiselday said:
if the new iPod 4G is able to display moving pictures, then it would not be a major technological revolution to be able to connect it to the iSight "on the fly" to have a digital video recoder with lots of HD space and good optics in a very handy form factor. The only HD based camcorders now are Samsung's IT and they have only a 1.5 GB disk...

probably an transparent plastic casing where you could attach your iPod and your iSight, et voila!! I'll be all for it!

T
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I was thinking something along those lines too. Not as a "I want to carry my pics and videos to share" device, but more as an aid in shooting pics/video. The Belkin product helps you accomplish this for digi photos since you can offload your pics to the iPod on the road and then bring them into your computer later.

There are devices out there that are essentially Firewire hard drives with extra logic to allow direct recording of video from your camcorder to the hard drive, allowing you to skip the "pain in the @$$" import process. Maybe the new iPod could work this way as well. Whether you are taking pictures or shooting video on the road, the iPod would be your new "best friend" :)
 
JFreak said:
musicians who record their practice sessions and care about quality have already dumped the minidisc for good - the mbox is so cheap it's almost a crime not to use it when there's a need. with mbox (350usd) you get 24bit studio quality, with ipod (350usd) you'd probably get 16bit through crappy a/d converter. which one would you choose? :)

seriously, that won't happen. ever. ipod stands for all-digital lifestyle, and analog line-in has bad quality written all over it. and so is the fm radio. i can't understand why people keep asking these... it would be like asking an opera singer to record a heavily compressed pop hit ;) capable of anything, asked to do nothing...
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Got an mbox, great little unit which I use for semi-serious recordings, not quite as small as an ipod and mic though... iRiver has a portable HD recorder with an optical in, too bad it doesn't integrate with iTunes.

Mbox = 1.8lbs, 1 USB cable, 1 mic cable,1 mic &/or mic stand,1 laptop (4-8lbs). Portable, yes, but not like a minidisc and mic or ipod and mic.

To put things in perspective, in reality, no matter what the input/output line says, sound is analog. The storage or delivery method might be digital. I don't hear 1's and 0's coming out of my speakers (-;
 
with the release of PSP and Nintendo DS

with the release of PSP and Nintendo DS, manufacturures are able to make large quantities of small color screens. There is NO reason not to have one in the iPod. PLus as I was watching E3 footage the touch screen on th DS was sooo inviting. And WOW those graphics were smooth and fast on the new metroid game for the DS. Video is no londer a bad idea or impossible expensive.
 
Squire[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that Belkin card reader has one too many steps: removal of the memory card. I'd like to plug my camera right into my iPod and download that way. That would rule. Other video capabilities? Hmmm...I don't know how useful it would be on all models. Maybe the top-of-the-line would benefit by staying competitive with other video-capable products.





Amen to that!
 
saxman said:
To put things in perspective, in reality, no matter what the input/output line says, sound is analog. The storage or delivery method might be digital. I don't hear 1's and 0's coming out of my speakers (-;
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you're definetely right, but i wasn't referring to that ;) i meant that because it is a lot cheaper to build good quality all-digital devices - which ipod is - it is not feasoble to ask apple to put in analog technology, because as ipod stands for quality the a/d conversion and the analog signal chain would have to be top quality also, and that my friend - as you probably know - costs a lot of money.

ipod is meant to store/play the consumer level end product (16bit mastered audio), and it is not meant to be a recording device. sure, apple could do one, but knowing apple standards it would be matching the mbox and not some lame minidisc+mic combo.

if you want quality, use quality gear. if you want portability, use portable gear. if you want both, use both. simple.
 
Trowaman said:
If this happens I can already see where gen 5 will go.

-Charge on wireless firewire :D
-Broadcast via Bluetooth :D

Other features I think the iPods could currently use right now:

-Color LCD
-Ability to browse you iPhoto library
-Radio

These are what I'm preceiving as the major potential breakthroughs, but this is just me. The problem I see with iPhoto is windows users, I would not think that Apple will port iPhoto over to windows as well.
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firstly, i didn't read the whole thread up till this point (yet). but i have to tell you, if you can pull off "Charge on wireless firewire" (read: wirelessly recharging your iPod battery) you, my friend will be a billionaire... however, that's just NOT possible.







...yet
 
I can definitely see the iPod being used as a video recording device. Both in the 'Tivo' sense of the word (take your favourite shows over to a friends house, like the good old days of VHS), and also (this is my contribution to the rumor) for use with video cameras.

Right now there are professional video camera hard drives that attach to your camera so that you do not have to swap tapes - and you can then plug into your computer for editing (I think Sony makes one).

I have never been interested in getting an iPod but if those were features, then I would seriously consider getting one.
 
JFreak said:
if you want quality, use quality gear. if you want portability, use portable gear. if you want both, use both. simple.
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Well said. It just seemed like a half-hearted effort for Apple to put in the ability to record 8Khz sound with an add-on device. IMO, they asked for better and more recording features to be requested... but to be all things to all people is impossible.
 
Veldek said:
Hmm, I somehow doubt this, because I can’t see me carrying not only the iPod but the whole dock to a TV, then perhaps selecting the movie while the IPod is sitting in the dock to have the connection. This doesn’t sound very Apple-like. Perhaps thay found another much easier way but I can’t think of one which involves the dock and a cable.
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Nor can I. But there has to be. if not, what would be the real benefit? The main selling point of the iPod (outside of the capacity) is the portability. If you have to hook it into the dock, then hook the dock into a monitor, why not just use your computer?

There must be more to the story. Otherwise, I can't see the value in this 'feature'.
 
Savage Henry said:
Don't get excited folks. I have it on good authority that this will not be announced at this year's WWDC: the good authority being Common Sense.

Jobs will bang up the G5 and spend a great deal of time showing how it blows the x86 to pieces. After such earth shaking reconfirmation of superiority of platform, he is hardly going to announce that you can watch poorly rendered videos on a tiny screen for 3 minutes before the battery packs in.
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Indeed. The screen is too damn small for video. But it isn't too small for a Visualizer. I'd like to see a color LCD with Visualizer options.
 
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