Dude Iris 540 and 550 is twice as fast as HD 530. End of story. Look up the numbers. The one I am talking about is HD 530 which is inside 2016 15"
540 and 550 will never lag as I confirmed while playing with 13" display models at Apple Store
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Video of iGPU comparison of 2016 vs 2015 models
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540 and 550 will never lag as I confirmed while playing with 13" display models at Apple Store
I tried the same thing on my HD4000 and even when scrolling like crazy, I can't bring the GPU usage to 5%!!!
Something else is wrong. Try scrolling another folder instead.
By the way, did you check your GPU usage while doing this? I'm sure it's near zero.
Something else is wrong. Try scrolling another folder instead.
By the way, did you check your GPU usage while doing this? I'm sure it's near zero.
I'd say it's valuable information. My 2016 rMBP order wont be here until end of Dec giving me plenty of time to test in Apple Store, I must say if I see a single frame of lag I'll be cancelling my order. I'm expecting 100% buttery smooth, my existing rMBP has never lagged on me once, I'm not paying more to put up with lag.
If you are not going to be happy with your order just cancel it, sure you'll be hit with a delay but at least you will end up with something you want. It is a lot of money to put up with something just because you wont It sooner.
I have re-ordered 3 times now as I keep changing my mind on the build.. It as pushed my order from 2-3 weeks to 5-6 weeks.. it could get it as late as January.
No stutter or lag here whatsoever under the same conditions shown in the video. 15" base model and compared it to a 13" base model as well.
Honestly im sticking with the space grey because i dont want to wait any longer. Space Grey is still pretty nice, but whats more important is the mbp itself. I'd be fine with it even if it was purple or something, im running on a mid 2010 13 inch atm. Also, if im really unhappy i could just return it
bro you didn't read ****, the intel iris pro has MORE FLOPS performance than the hd540 AND THE HD540 beats it in all tests. Flops doesn't mean anything.
what the heck does twice as fast mean?
The RADEON is supposed to be used for all demanding tasks, so everything else: opening folders, pdfs, web browsing, scrolling, etc. THE HD530 should have no problem with.
the HP Zbook 15" with a hd530 drives its own damn internal display at 4k resolution. It's probably a really sh*** computer but all your points are invalid.
what the heck does twice as fast mean?
The RADEON is supposed to be used for all demanding tasks, so everything else: opening folders, pdfs, web browsing, scrolling, etc. THE HD530 should have no problem with.
the HP Zbook 15" with a hd530 drives its own damn internal display at 4k resolution. It's probably a really sh*** computer but all your points are invalid.
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Twice as fast means this:
HD 530 : 441.6 GFLOPS
Iris 540: 806.4 GFLOPS
Iris 550: 844.8 GFLOPS
Iris Pro 5200: 832 GFLOPS.
2016 15" only comes with HD 530 which is twice as slow as Iris Pro and twice as slow as 540 and 550. Make sense?
2015 15" comes with Iris Pro 5200, which by the numbers is also twice as fast as HD 530.
I am not sure how good you are at math. But 800/400 =2. Get it now?
In other words 2016 15" DOES NOT COME with Iris Pro. It only comes with HD 530 which is twice as slow. Is there any other way I can explain this?
I never said that Iris Pro is slower than 540. I said that 540 is twice as fast as HD 530 (Which is not Iris Pro)
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What are you using to measure GPU usage?
What? You didn't show anything. Of course higher FLOPS means better performance.
If Flops is not a good measurement then why did Apple use FLOPS to compare Radeon 460 Performance to Radeon 370X to claim that it's 130% better ?
Don't you think that the best marketing machine in the world would have chosen the best way to tout their new GPUs if Flops wasn't the best measurement?
If for instance editing a large image in photoshop was more than 150% better then I am sure they would have used that instead and would have claimed that it's 150% better instead of using Flops.
Simple logic
flops is more important for graphic intensive work, hence why they only showed it for the dgpu
for basic UI and other aspects its not that big of a deal
Mac OS UI animations don't use OpenGL, they use Metal. Your OpenGL Driver Monitor is not going to show that.
I just ran this test as well, this has to be software related (i.e. its not optimized). If you force the dGPU on by turning off "graphic switching", the result is the same.
macOS Sierra is by far less optimized compared to El Capitan. I notice the same lag on my late 2015 iMac 5K. This lag didn't exist in El Capitan.
15" 2.7/455
macOS Sierra is by far less optimized compared to El Capitan. I notice the same lag on my late 2015 iMac 5K. This lag didn't exist in El Capitan.
15" 2.7/455
Im guessing it has to something with the touchbar software not being optimized correctly. I've seen a few people here talking about it
This also something I would suspect.
dark_mark, you don't have another input device to use?
Show me evidence of this. Their is no way a 530 is driving THREE 4k displays at 60hz
I tried scrolling in iTunes, it's not as smooth as my 2015. I also tried scrolling through my messages in Microsoft Outlook for mac and it's a complete stuttery mess there. I imagine this is very important since most business world use Outlook for mac. Whereas 2015 is buttery smooth in Outlook
I didn't try Apple Mail yet.
Oh and scrolling in google photos in safari or chrome is a total lag fest.
was this stuttering seen on day one of getting the machine? maybe Spotlight and such was still making it's way through everything and slowing things down.
yes, the integrated on the 15s is not great. that is the compromise for the faster 4 core CPUs. you can thank Intel for that with their fractured lineup. is there no longer a setting in OS X to force the dGPU? I would have that on, since you paid for it and all.
yes, the integrated on the 15s is not great. that is the compromise for the faster 4 core CPUs. you can thank Intel for that with their fractured lineup. is there no longer a setting in OS X to force the dGPU? I would have that on, since you paid for it and all.