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There isn't even a menu option or preference for anything to do with subs in CorePlayer so that should tell you what your chances are with it and subs. As I said in the other msg they need to be embedded to work.

About your mplayer comment.. that G4 optimized mplayer doesn't like most h.264 and it's also not nearly as well optimized as CP. This is why I keep CorePlayer, that Mplayer I recommend and VLC around because each one has different strengths.

I tried XMBC once and found the interface horrible. Seems very unintuitive to me.



Thanks again.
I never got any response from coreplayer guys.
In the process of trying to merge the subs to any video I found this tutorial, the good this is that the programs used are powerpc compatible.
BUT, at least when I tried to do this with the godfather mkv that I have in my macbook I got nothing :S
I am now trying a program called SubMerge, it is universal binary too.
 
I thought it was pretty elegant.

If elegant means covered in horrible then I agree.

Thanks again.
I never got any response from coreplayer guys.
In the process of trying to merge the subs to any video I found this tutorial, the good this is that the programs used are powerpc compatible.
BUT, at least when I tried to do this with the godfather mkv that I have in my macbook I got nothing :S
I am now trying a program called SubMerge, it is universal binary too.

Thanks for the update on your findings. I will check out those links.
 
Thanks for the update on your findings. I will check out those links.

I guess my problem must be due to the mplayer binary that the tutorial mentions.
When I put the mkv on ffmpegX and click on play this appears:



After the encoding to avi or any other (wich takes a few seconds only) it displays the same thing.
Wth submerge everything is fine, but since it is the unregistred version it appears that info on the screen.Guess I really have to buy it.

edit: With Submerge everything is fine on my macbook (playing on QT), on my powermac the subs don't appear on coreplayer (and the sound doesn't work).

edit2:

I am getting mad with coreplayer, I am seriously thinking of trying to get my money back with paypal., mainly because of the subs...
They didn't answer me, and in my vision a mediaplayer without sub support is almost useless :S

I have this file:
The.Godfather.Part.III.1990.720p.BRRip.x264.ogg.mkv-anoXmous

in my macbook, on vlc 2.0.1 if I go to video>subtitles>english subtitles appear, in coreplayer is anyway to do that?they are embedded, not on a external file.

Now for files that I only have the subs in .srt anyone managed to embed and play it in coreplayer?
 
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I don't see how that is covered in horrible, according to you.

Your thinking is limited with the word interface if you only imagine the look of the app. I am talking about the function and flow of the app. How it works.. not how it looks.

How pretty an app is would be the last thing to ever cross my mind. If you put looks first then you lose function. CorePlayer for example has what can easily be called a hideously ugly look but it's an extremely capable and efficient player so no one (other than maybe you) would be bothered by it.

Do you not get how function should always come before how "pretty" things are? Computers are tools before anything else. Wasting thought on how pretty an app is takes away from what you can learn from it and do with it.
 
Why are you ranting? There has been a misunderstanding of what the term "interface" constitutes and both positions are right in their own sense. That's because it's subjective whether you prefer form follows function or vice versa. No need to get into ad hominem arguments here.
 
Why are you ranting? There has been a misunderstanding of what the term "interface" constitutes and both positions are right in their own sense. That's because it's subjective whether you prefer form follows function or vice versa. No need to get into ad hominem arguments here.

I'm not ranting at all. I started this thread and wrote the giant first post to devote this thread to video playback function. If vohdoun wants to talk about how pretty something is and even show a pic of it then he can start his own thread. I told him I have used it yet he feels the need to plaster my thread with a photo of an app I am fully aware of how it looks.

Note the "Playback on G4/G5" title I gave the thread. The subject is playback not aesthetics so his input is unhelpful and I was pointing out why. If you don't like me "ranting" then add me to your ignore list and don't post in threads I start.
 
Could I consider playing 1080p on dual 2GHZ G5 Powermac with 3GB ram?

You could play 1080p for sure. Anything with a bitrate of 4000 or under should play fine in freeware players like VLC and for anything over that CorePlayer would do the job. When it comes to h.264 it is by far the best player out there for efficiency. It uses at least 50-60% less CPU as VLC for many of the same h.264 files. For other codecs there is only slightly better performance.

Use VLC 1.1.12 on Leopard or 0.9.10 on Tiger for best performance. If you play a lot of h.264 though then the $20 for CorePlayer is well worth it.
 
In regards to VLC's interface, I'm a big fan of the controls when a video is playing...but I don't like the media organizer upon first startup of VLC. If I could disable that, I'd say the latest version is 5 stars.
 
In regards to VLC's interface, I'm a big fan of the controls when a video is playing...but I don't like the media organizer upon first startup of VLC. If I could disable that, I'd say the latest version is 5 stars.

I'm using VLC 2.0.1 and I don't have a problem with seeing controls when I'm watching a video. I usually watch movies in full screen and you can see them if you move the mouse, but if you have the mouse cursor to the side then they go away. If your in window mode, then it doesn't matter, it'll be there no matter what.
 
I'm using VLC 2.0.1 and I don't have a problem with seeing controls when I'm watching a video. I usually watch movies in full screen and you can see them if you move the mouse, but if you have the mouse cursor to the side then they go away. If your in window mode, then it doesn't matter, it'll be there no matter what.

These interface issues make me really wish Quicktime X could be ported to Leopard (although I'm aware this won't ever happen lol)
 
Both windowed and full screens controls can be turned off. I highly recommend any VLC user get familiar with the expanded preferences.

When it comes to function I see no reason whatsoever to upgrade to 2. I have used it enough to know it's not for me as it does nothing 1.1.12 can't and a has a diminished user experience to boot.

They took a user experience it had from the beginning and added the horrible iTunes wannabe. There was a reason the original interface held on for so long... because it worked well. Ver. 2 is a perfect example of how newer doesn't = better.
 
A 1.33GHz PowerMac G4 with a GeForce 5200 and 1.5GB of RAM does not play 720p. Using a GeForce 6/7 series graphics card should do the trick and even enable it to play 1080p smoothly. The best bang for the buck is probably still a flashed GeForce 7600GS with 256MB RAM.

It plays SD video just fine though, may it be XviD or h.264. But so it does using a ATI Radeon or GeForce 2 MX.

I doubt that it looks much different on a G5, at least for the single-core ones, as the h.264 acceleration happens in the graphics card.
 
A 1.33GHz PowerMac G4 with a GeForce 5200 and 1.5GB of RAM does not play 720p. Using a GeForce 6/7 series graphics card should do the trick and even enable it to play 1080p smoothly. The best bang for the buck is probably still a flashed GeForce 7600GS with 256MB RAM.

It plays SD video just fine though, may it be XviD or h.264. But so it does using a ATI Radeon or GeForce 2 MX.

I doubt that it looks much different on a G5, at least for the single-core ones, as the h.264 acceleration happens in the graphics card.

Fly you fools!!.....

720p can be played pretty smoothly on a single 933 mhz PowerMac G4 with a 64MB VRAM Geforce4 MX. Enough said.
Now go try the newest VLC and buy CorePlayer ($20) if that isn't enough.
 
A 1.33GHz PowerMac G4 with a GeForce 5200 and 1.5GB of RAM does not play 720p...

I do not question if it is true or not, but I know for a fact that my iBook (in my sig) does play 720p with CorePlayer (cpu usage is between 60-70%, though).
 
I do not question if it is true or not, but I know for a fact that my iBook (in my sig) does play 720p with CorePlayer (cpu usage is between 60-70%, though).

Thats because you're using the most efficient player available for Mac. VLC generally uses about 40-60% more CPU (than CorePlayer) and it's the next most efficient.


720p can be played pretty smoothly on a single 933 mhz PowerMac G4 with a 64MB VRAM Geforce4 MX.

A big reason a QS 933 would perform so well is it's a 7455 and has 2MB L3. The 1.33 in his iBook is a 7447 which would only equal about a 867MHz 7455. The 7447 just don't have as much beef as a 7455 and especially when dealing with media as that is one main situation where L3 really helps. That 933 QS would equal a Powerbook 1.5GHz easily with this type of task.
 
Thats because you're using the most efficient player available for Mac. VLC generally uses about 40-60% more CPU (than CorePlayer) and it's the next most efficient.




A big reason a QS 933 would perform so well is it's a 7455 and has 2MB L3. The 1.33 in his iBook is a 7447 which would only equal about a 867MHz 7455. The 7447 just don't have as much beef as a 7455 and especially when dealing with media as that is one main situation where L3 really helps. That 933 QS would equal a Powerbook 1.5GHz easily with this type of task.

Ironicly enough, Chris and I just compared our systems in this task. His 1.67 PowerBook outperforms my dual G4. Care to explain this?
 
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You must be doing something wrong in your test or there is a huge oversight on your end. That is the only way the hardware in your signature could be outperformed by a powerbook g4.
 
Thats because you're using the most efficient player available for Mac. VLC generally uses about 40-60% more CPU (than CorePlayer) and it's the next most efficient.




A big reason a QS 933 would perform so well is it's a 7455 and has 2MB L3. The 1.33 in his iBook is a 7447 which would only equal about a 867MHz 7455. The 7447 just don't have as much beef as a 7455 and especially when dealing with media as that is one main situation where L3 really helps. That 933 QS would equal a Powerbook 1.5GHz easily with this type of task.

I highly doubt that, since I own a powerbook G4 1.67 (1.5//1.67 model). But maybe it would equal a 1.2 ghz 7447. CoreImage support on the PB helps though...
 
A 1.33GHz PowerMac G4 with a GeForce 5200 and 1.5GB of RAM does not play 720p. Using a GeForce 6/7 series graphics card should do the trick and even enable it to play 1080p smoothly. The best bang for the buck is probably still a flashed GeForce 7600GS with 256MB RAM.

It plays SD video just fine though, may it be XviD or h.264. But so it does using a ATI Radeon or GeForce 2 MX.

I doubt that it looks much different on a G5, at least for the single-core ones, as the h.264 acceleration happens in the graphics card.
When I upgraded from a Radeon 9600 XT to an X800 XT, CorePlayer's benchmarks were actually consistently about 1-2% slower for some reason...

Both windowed and full screens controls can be turned off. I highly recommend any VLC user get familiar with the expanded preferences.

When it comes to function I see no reason whatsoever to upgrade to 2. I have used it enough to know it's not for me as it does nothing 1.1.12 can't and a has a diminished user experience to boot.

They took a user experience it had from the beginning and added the horrible iTunes wannabe. There was a reason the original interface held on for so long... because it worked well. Ver. 2 is a perfect example of how newer doesn't = better.
100% agreed, tried v2, hated the new interface, couldn't see any new features, or at least none that were useful for me, so back to v1 for me!
 
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