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I wouldn’t say the M4 is a huge upgrade from the M1, since it’s the same design and the M1 is still a very good chip.

I could definitely see it for the Intel iMacs, at least the smaller ones.

If I had an M1 iMac, I’d wait for the rumored 90Hz M5 iMac. First display upgrade for this new generation.
I had one of the higher spec 2020 Intel iMacs and traded it in for an M4 iMac with 32 GB ram, mainly because I got tired of the look of the 27” iMac (I know, a trivial reason.) I would not say it is a “huge upgrade.” Adobe photo editing is about the same. Definitely a downgrade on screen size. I suggest lower your expectations if you expect the improvement to be startling.
On the other hand if you have an older intel imac with a fusion drive, then the improvement will indeed be startling!
 
This does not bode well for the used M-series iMac market…

But then I wasn’t going to sell my 16/512 M1 anyway.
I don’t think the resell value on iMacs was ever particularly good as most people are buying laptops for the last 10 years and I suspect the average buyer of these machines is buying a basic one for their kids or older people that would never use a computer outside home, and both of these buyers are going to go to a store or purchase online new. In my area Craigslist ads used to be chock full of computers for sale; now only a fraction are listed (17 total in a major metro city lol). A quick search of fb marketplace shows a couple dozen mostly base m1 models with several being laughably “password locked” (aka stolen). I can’t imagine offices buying these in bulk as windows only apps are still very much a thing.
 
Both should have HDR at the bare minimum with the new update. The studio display is the same screen from the original 5k iMac that came out 10 years ago with just an extra 100 bits in brightness.
HDR is a “nice to have” feature at present. On my MacBook I rarely get to experience it given most online video is not hdr and for my personal photos I could care less if I saw them in hdr or not. I’d much rather have the 120 hz but seemingly the tech either does not exist for 5k or would cost way too much to make it feasible. I’m sure if Apple could sell it at a reasonable Apple price they would. I believe we had roughly a 4 year gap from the 1st retina MacBook until the 1st retina iMac (5 or 6 years for the 21 iMac) so going by that timeline next year or two would see the 120 HDR panel making it to the larger size although this seems highly unlikely given that 5k is a low volume monitor, and they don’t make 27 iMacs anymore while the 24” are the “cheap” Mac (if you exclude the Mac mini).
 
"If you have an M1 ‌iMac‌ or an ‌iMac‌ with an Intel chip, the M4 ‌iMac‌ is going to be a huge update that's worth it."

Not for me, unfortunately.
AS is brilliant, but the 24" screen is a downgrade from my 27"
Can't do 128 GB of ram.
Can't do bootcamp.
Can't do eGPU.
If Apple does a 32" iMac pro with M4 Max or Ultra it will be an insta buy for me.
 
They couldn't look more generic unless viewed from behind. How many people have an office setup that allows for this?
Yes, they look like something you might find in the centre isle at Aldi.

I was at a Tesla showroom (I would never buy one) and saw that all their iMacs are the previous silver and black design. Gorgeous. I don't think this is because Telsa can't afford to upgrade.
I’ve now boycotted Tesla too for reasons that would get my comment deleted by the forum moderators if I were to state it. 😉 (My boycott is a bit of a joke since I’ve never bought a new car in my life.) But yes, the last Intel iMac was definitely the peak of hardware design at Apple.
 


It's been just over a month since Apple released the refreshed M4 iMac, so we've finally been able to spend enough time with it to provide MacRumors readers with a comprehensive review ahead of the holiday season.


Apple didn't make external design changes to the M4 iMac except for tweaking the colors, but it does have the latest M4 chip. You can't get the iMac with the M4 Pro or the M4 Max, as those higher-end chips are limited to the Mac mini and the MacBook Pro, but the M4 in the iMac is more than powerful enough for most people.

It can be used for simple tasks like web browsing and watching videos, but it's also powerful enough for photo editing, video editing, graphics work, 3D work, and gaming. Some of the latest console games can be played on the M4 iMac thanks to support for hardware-accelerated ray tracing and mesh shading.

This year, all M4 Macs come with 16GB RAM minimum with no increase in base cost, which is great. Depending on what you're going to do with your iMac, you might want to upgrade the RAM to 24GB or 32GB, but 16GB will get you by for most tasks. You can also get up to 2TB of SSD storage depending on which iMac you pick.

The base iMac has two Thunderbolt 4 ports, while higher-end models have four Thunderbolt 4 ports, another nice upgrade compared to the prior-generation iMac that had two Thunderbolt ports and two USB-C ports. Nano-texture, the feature that Apple first brought to the Pro Display XDR, is an option for the iMac this time, so you can get a super matte display that's ideal if you need to work in the sun or in bright lights.

If you have an M1 iMac or an iMac with an Intel chip, the M4 iMac is going to be a huge update that's worth it. If you have a newer iMac, there's no real reason to update.

Make sure to watch our video for a deeper overview of the iMac, and let us know if you have plans to get one in the comments below.

Article Link: Video Review: A Month With the M4 iMac
I am rocking with green and loving it. You forgot to mention those wonderful speakers, great sound for just listening to YouTube and music when you are too lazy to switch to your HomePods.
 
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Still using 2019 iMac (i5 with 40GB Ram) … M4 is tempting but my iMac has been flawless and still working well. But I haven’t updated to the latest OS - still don’t think I’m missing much.

Hope to get a couple more years out of it - see you then M6 or M7!
 
"It can be used for simple tasks like web browsing and watching videos."

OMG no way, I'm getting two immediately. I can't believe they have figured that out at apple.

Web browsers put more load on the CPU than most apps.
 
Both should have HDR at the bare minimum with the new update.
But how much difference would that make in practical user experience?

When shopping for 27" and 32" IPS displays recently, and taking in reviews, I noticed that reviews that mentioned the HDR effect with IPS panel displays tended to be...underwhelming. I'm not sure to what extent a switch to OLED is needful to really bring it out, but I'm guessing making a display present HDR in a way that readily enhances the user experience will be expensive.

And considering what Apple already charges for the Apple Studio Display...wow.

How many of you with whatever brand displays are seeing HDR content substantially improve your user experience? Which displays are doing that?
 
I remember when that was big for a computer monitor.

I remember when that was big for a TV.
I remember when colour TV started in Australia. 1974 where we lived.
22" Philips TV.

My grand parents lashed out on the 26" model.
My parents were like "why would anyone want a tv that big?"

Years later my grandmother visited us and spent most of the time staring at the 65" tv.
We eventually bought them one to replace the dire 50" rear projector monstrosity they had. LOL.

I could only imagine what she would think of projectors or 98" tvs...
 
It doesn't have Thunderbolt 5, what is the main reason I'd take a Mini Pro over it. Also I have a second 27" Display for my M3 iMac that at least for me is better than the iMac display and I can still use it with a new Mac und just buy a second one that looks the same, what is less than a third than the Studio Display. It's only UHD but supports up to 144Hz and HDR.

And for the ports I already have a problem with too less TB4 ports, that my docks can't really solve. USB drive era is over for me. I'll never buy those again. Too much bad experience with all the enclosures and drives I tried.

Just the two "Gaming" USB 3.0 HDDs with USB-Hub and external power do good work for backups and never disconnect.

Only the expensive ones with their own (not really openable) enclosure work without external power but also disconnect and I got TB4 enclosures + faster drives for less the price.

This would really save much money, to don't buy an Apple display and Apple storage and I could all invest in RAM what I need more then a better CPU/GPU, but Apple doesn't offer that.
 
I'm enjoying my M4 Pro mini, but I'm still annoyed that it doesn't support Hey Siri.

(unless it's connected to a Studio Display that costs about as much as the mini itself)
 
This device often appears at the front desk of the company because it is really beautiful!
 
I remember when colour TV started in Australia. 1974 where we lived.
22" Philips TV.

My grand parents lashed out on the 26" model.
My parents were like "why would anyone want a tv that big?"

Years later my grandmother visited us and spent most of the time staring at the 65" tv.
We eventually bought them one to replace the dire 50" rear projector monstrosity they had. LOL.

I could only imagine what she would think of projectors or 98" tvs...
My grandparents wouldn’t allow a color tv in their home. They were afraid of the radiation. They warned us to only watch from the front. Watching at an angle increased the exposure.

They got their first color tv in the 90s when they were in their 90s. No point in worrying about long term effects any more.
 
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I’m very reluctant to buy an iMac until they can be configured as standalone monitors. There are so many used iMacs out there with terrific screens but outdated CPU’s.
The pre-5K iMac had the option. Had is past tense in multiple ways. Not only did the newer iMac lose this feature, but Apple apparently removed support on the older iMacs just before dropping support for them entirely, so by having upgraded my 2012 iMac's OS to as recent as possible, I actually lost the ability to use it as monitor now that I've got a mini.

The lack of support for the 5Ks made sense... at the time there was no display standard for it, and they used custom signalling. Not making it work on the later 5Ks where the was a display standard is a sad choice, but whatever. Killing support on the pre-5K just sucks. Don't remove features!
 
My grandparents wouldn’t allow a color tv in their home. They were afraid of the radiation. They warned us to only watch from the front. Watching at an angle increased the exposure.

They got their first color tv in the 90s when they were in their 90s. No point in worrying about long term effects any more.
My Mum, only half jokingly, said we didnt have a walk big enough for a VCR to throw a picture out...

Then again, she also had remote for 5 years and didnt realise there was flap to access a second set of buttons for subtitles and stuff ;)

I cant tell you how many times while working in aged care I would have to "fix" a broken remote when they pushed Analog instead of Digital chanels... ;)

Saying that, a lot of remotes arent user friendly. Small print or weird icons anyone struggles to see...
 
My grandparents wouldn’t allow a color tv in their home. They were afraid of the radiation. They warned us to only watch from the front. Watching at an angle increased the exposure.

They got their first color tv in the 90s when they were in their 90s. No point in worrying about long term effects any more.
Uh… just want to point out, they lived into their 90’s. Maybe they were right all along.
 
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