I remember the desktop version working on iOS Safari a couple of years back tbh, its an intentional change on their part imo.
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Video Review: Using the 12.9-Inch M1 iPad Pro for Two Months
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Let's start with... why can't you give a decent file management tool on iPadOS.
If you are doing a text review for this guy please include pictures from the video because I can scan pictures much more quickly
I like the points Dan makes here. But to be honest, we are 10 years into iPad and still people are saying the same thing "It's good, but not good enough to replace a laptop." At the same time, Apple continues to push the iPad as a "computer replacement". M1 looks like a good chip (I don't own any M1 Mac's), no good reason iPad OS cannot be more like OS11.
I love my iPad, but when I travel, I still have to take my MacBook with, just two many things I cannot do on an iPad or are not streamlined enough to do on an iPad. Quite honestly, document creation is still one of them.
I love my iPad, but when I travel, I still have to take my MacBook with, just two many things I cannot do on an iPad or are not streamlined enough to do on an iPad. Quite honestly, document creation is still one of them.
Come on Apple, get it over with already. A dual-boot iPad Pro / MacBook Air or Pro. What are you waiting for?
iPad/MacBook will never merge until dual-boot.
Many other things have been around a lot longer than the ipad and have yet to merge. Spoon/fork. Loafers/lace-ups. Email/snail mail. Phillips head/straight screws. Memories of the laughable “what’s a computer” commercial.
iPad/MacBook will never merge until dual-boot.
Many other things have been around a lot longer than the ipad and have yet to merge. Spoon/fork. Loafers/lace-ups. Email/snail mail. Phillips head/straight screws. Memories of the laughable “what’s a computer” commercial.
Weird. I write 20 to 40-page documents all the time on my iPad and I never have any issues. There are a lot of options for document creation. Both Word and Pages are excellent, although I typically just use Devonthinktogo.
You shouldn't have to think about any settings either as all the apps allow you to start creating a document pretty much immediately. It's not professional publishing, of course, which you could do but most don't. I would really be surprised if 99% of people need more than the notes app for most document creation, but there are some really powerful and well-built apps available.
Big Sur on M1 can already run iPadOS apps. Really no excuses.
Spork?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spork
I use mine every day as a companion mobile device to my desktop workstation.
Used for zoom calls, sketching ideas, research, second screen etc.
However, really I am not gaining that much from my 2018 iPad in function.
its just faster with a better screen.
it doesn’t bother me at all that I dont run macOS apps on it. I have macs for that with bigger screens.
Used for zoom calls, sketching ideas, research, second screen etc.
However, really I am not gaining that much from my 2018 iPad in function.
its just faster with a better screen.
it doesn’t bother me at all that I dont run macOS apps on it. I have macs for that with bigger screens.
Big Sur on M1 can already run iPadOS apps. Really no excuses.
Spork?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spork
Oh, sporks exist but just never became mainstream, replacing the fork and spoon. There’s still a clinging to using both forks and spoons, and it will probably always be that way. Similar to the iOS experience and mac OS experience. You can use just one in a pinch or occasionally, but most really can’t live with just one or the other. If all you did was take in content, then perhaps an iPad would be all you need. If all you did was productivity work and rarely or never took in content, then perhaps you really wouldn’t even need an iPad.
I view the relationship between iPod & iPhone differently than I do the one between MacBook & iPad.
In the former, I see much more an evolution than a cannibalization. In 2001, there were two separate segments: mobile audio and mobile communication. Those segments required their own function-specific devices. Apple saw an opportunity to eventually combined those two segments and, by default, devices. The 2001 iPod launch was Apple's toe-in-the-water attempt at making a phone. iPod was always intended to evolve into a mobile phone - they just didn't yet have the cellular expertise, in-house, to get there. 4 years later, their phone intentions all but crystallized when they partnered with Motorola and AT&T to place iTunes on the Motorola ROKR E1. A mere 2 years later, boom: iPhone. Again, iPod was always an intentional, methodical approach to eventually landing on iPhone.
The relationship between MacBook and iPad is a bit different (tho at some point, iPad may usurp MacBook). Unlike the two segments iPod and iPhone would eventually merge, MacBook and iPad both serve the same single segment: mobile computing - making an evolution a bit trickier. In an effort to coexist, they each offer slightly (or greatly, depending on who you ask) takes on OSes and, in turn, their definitions of mobile computing. So far, Apple has positioned the MacBook (and Pro) for "serious work" while iPad (and Pro) as more for "entertainment" and "leisure" - two activities that are conducted after all of the "serious work" completed on a MacBook. This is really just carefully crafted positioning and messaging to help justify the ownership of both devices. Today, an iPad can easily handle 100% of the computing needs of 90% of users out there (email, social, browsing, music, photos, videos, entertainment, etc.). My mom is the shining example of this type of user. A decade ago, she left her iMac for an iPad and has not looked back. No need. For 10% of us, a still not yet statistically relevant number, iPad can handle ~90% of our needs. It's just that last 10% is a doozie - keeping us in MacBooks. For now. Make no mistake, Apple is 100% ok with this sceanrio. Until MacBook users stop buying iPads, there is little incentive for Apple to flip any mobile computing switches. But it does seem inevitable, at some point, that iPad will replace MacBook. Right now, it feels like the chapter when both iPhone and iPod were alive and well. This transition feels similar. We'll see.
That iPad does almost nothing that my 2016 iPad can't do. Yes, I know there are a few things like Apple Pencil and I know the display is improved, but I can't justify the cost for basically the same iPad I currently have. Just a seriously underdeveloped device with limiting iOS.
Yes and no, and depends on your usage.
the M1 is vastly better for looking at and marking up large drawing pdf’s [upto 20mb size], than my 2018 for example.
Yes the 2018 opened them but the experience wasn’t great. So i have no regrets updating, and depends on what you need. Mine are always work related.
How does your 12.9 iPad blow your M1 Air way? What do you mean by, blows your M1 Air away??I must say, my 12.9" 2021 blows my M1 Air away in a number of ways. And the Air is pretty good. Funny how the iPad has overtaken the Laptop, and by a good margin.
But a lot of it is the new screens, which are remarkable. When the Pro laptops come out with this, it's going to be something.
Apple absolutely don't mind cannibalising their own products. Their philosophy is that if something's going to cannibalise their product, it better be another product of theirs. They generally look to push each product capacity to its limit hard against other categories, so that category needs to push further to continue to exist.
Will iPad Pro cannibalise the MacBook Pro? Yes. It already does to a small extent (and Apple's pricing of the iPad Pro shows that they think it's on equal footing). But it doesn't necessarily mean people will spend less on Apple kit. I for instance bought an M1 iMac and then realised the iPad Pro is the perfect complement to the desktop Mac, so in some ways Apple has got me from shifting from an MBP/iPad Pro combination to an iMac/iPad Pro combination. Either way, they get to make as much money from me.
I say 'blows it away' as hyperbole, as that's sort of mandatory on a rumors forum.
However, It's got a much better screen, and iPadOS works very well with the same M1. It also just sort of feels more premium. The Air is great, but the screen they use is low end-ish. The Pro MacBooks get the higher end screens, so what is going to be the outcome?
I'm not particularly picky and presently I'm using the Air until they get the bugs out of the iPad beta OS. I mean, they a just tools, and they both do the job. Either one.
It's a good comparison though. They are rather similar with the AMK. These new Pro MacBooks coming out are going to perhaps settle the score for a while.
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Agree. iPadOS is at fault here not the chip. I needed to interrogate a sql file the other day on the iPad (out of town), bit of a pain to open it up in the first place but there was no way of searching the text for the strings I needed reference to.
it’s simple things like that that are deal breakers for me.
A testament to the design and performance of the 2018 iPad Pro. Still looks like the 2021 model, and for most all purposes, equally as fast and capable. Even works with the latest peripherals like Magic Keyboard and the Apple Pencil 2. I really don't understand why anyone would move from a 2018/2020 iPad Pro to the 2021 at this point in time.
If you use both a laptop and a tablet, and have the budget or the income, then why not?
Some people's roles involve technology evaluation, in other cases there are multiple users in a household, one person has multiple use cases, or you use the devices in different locations, keep one for travel etc. In other situations, you have budget that needs to be used, so a device that might be useful to you in the future can make sense as a purchase.
I have an M1 laptop and an 2017 iPad Pro. I can't personally see myself needing an M1 iPad Pro even though I could easily budget one: my existing iPP gets relatively limited use and I essentially never travel with it, despite it being a nice consumption device. Basically, as people here say, the current software holds the iPad back even for writing/editing/presenting documents. As soon as I need to do any serious typing, I switch to the laptop.
I already had the Ipad 3, the air 2 and I recently sold the pro 10.5 2017. I always prefer the double PC (because of work) and the Iphone. Current pcs have pretty good batteries and windows 10 isn't that bad. I'll come back to the Ipad when Apple allows an IpadOs masquerading as MacOs lite and not a giant iOS.
I regularly use my MacBook Pro for note taking and for picture import into pages. Then it syncs with my ipad Air 2 pages and I use that for reference while doing zoom calls. I like that work flow. Probably if I used a keyboard for iPad I could get away with one device. But I’d still need a 2nd device for zoom anyway 🤷♂️ I think it’s kind of like. One family used to have 1 car. Now it’s 2 or 3 or more.
I also think a benefit to the dual setup of an later gen iPad and Mac is the ability to use the iPad as a dual monitor, and unlike using an external monitor with the iPad, SideCar allows the iPad display to be a true dual monitor. I've used that for work flows for school and it's been great.
My frustration with Apple with the iPad Pro lineup is like most peoples, an incredibly powerful device handicapped by a moderately modified version of iOS.