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Never conflate Android with Samsung's "touchwiz". They call it Android, it's based on android, But it's not android.

Touchwiz has terrible memory management. Android 5.1.1 is MUCH better.

So in order to get "good memory management", I am required to void my warranty, root and flash a custom form from a non-official source, lose a core functionality (spen) ?
 
So in order to get "good memory management", I am required to void my warranty, root and flash a custom form from a non-official source, lose a core functionality (spen) ?

They pulled the same root = warranty void crap on my Note 3 and I dumped them without hesitation for a 6S+ once my contract was up for renewal.
 
I want citations regarding power consumption of 2 GB of LP-DDR4 ram vs 1 GB of LP-DDR4 ram. I wouldn't be surprised that the 2 GB actually consumes less power.

Further having more ram requires less access to the nand, which also saves battery. Your argument that more ram = less battery life is frankly, bs.
Are you talking to me (since you apparently quoted me)? I never said anything about more battery being used up with more RAM. I was basically saying that that is likely not the case in response to those who were saying it is.
 
Mac OS X and and (Windows) will create a page file when it runs out of memory. So that way, apps and websites don't need to load from scratch, they load off the disk. And with an SSD, most of the time there's not lag. So why can't iOS (and Android for that matter) do the same? Is disk space a problem? I feel like they could at least provide the option....
 
Mac OS X and and (Windows) will create a page file when it runs out of memory. So that way, apps and websites don't need to load from scratch, they load off the disk. And with an SSD, most of the time there's not lag. So why can't iOS (and Android for that matter) do the same? Is disk space a problem? I feel like they could at least provide the option....
That's actually a great idea. Got to be some logical reason why Apple engineers didn't think of it. Or dismissed it as plausible.
 
Thanks for that link. It shows that the 1 gig of RAM in the iPhone 6 cost a bit more than $5. So for projected sales of 80 million iPhones this year, an additional gig would be a non trivial 400 million dollars.

Sure, Android phones put more RAM in their phones, but they have to because the OS cannot run on less. But the OS is free courtesy Google, and the lower build quality on most Androids saves considerable money. I don't think you can say greed (or altruism) is responsible for these decisions, they are simply business decisions for both Apple and Android makers.

All that said, I'm delighted that Apple is stepping up to 2 gigs of RAM. I'm planning on buying a 6S to replace my 5. That should fix my reloading web page and app reloading issues completely.
Here's an example of the difference in greed between Google and Apple.

For $650, the new Nexus 6P announced today gives you a 5.7" 1440p screen, 128GB, and 3GB in a metal body. Stock android and no issues with timely updates like the other OEMs.

For $650, Apple gives you a 4.7" 720p screen, 16GB, and 2GB.

Even Samsung rips you off.

https://store.google.com/product/nexus_6p
 
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Here's an example of the difference in greed between Google and Apple.

For $650, the new Nexus 6P announced today gives you a 5.7" 1440p screen, 128GB, and 3GB in a metal body. Stock android and no issues with timely updates like the other OEMs.

For $650, Apple gives you a 4.7" 720p screen, 16GB, and 2GB.

Even Samsung rips you off.

https://store.google.com/product/nexus_6p
So you basically get a choice of going with a huge phone or...a huge phone.
 
So in order to get "good memory management", I am required to void my warranty, root and flash a custom form from a non-official source, lose a core functionality (spen) ?
no,

just understand that buying a samsung device, you are NOT buying an "android" device. you are buying a Samsung device "powered by android OS". I know it seems a bit nonsense, but Samsung changes the OS enough that while the fundamental themes of Android are the same, not a single pixel of the UI hasn't been touched / changed and there are major underlying fundamentals of the OS that Samsung rips out from android and replaces with their own.

it LOOKS like android, but its closer to what Amazon does with android than some of the other Manufacturers. Google doesn't yank their G-services though cause Samsung is the #1 seller of google based phones.

if you're looking for a real experience out of Android. Don't buy a Samsung.
 
no,

just understand that buying a samsung device, you are NOT buying an "android" device. you are buying a Samsung device "powered by android OS". I know it seems a bit nonsense, but Samsung changes the OS enough that while the fundamental themes of Android are the same, not a single pixel of the UI hasn't been touched / changed and there are major underlying fundamentals of the OS that Samsung rips out from android and replaces with their own.

it LOOKS like android, but its closer to what Amazon does with android than some of the other Manufacturers. Google doesn't yank their G-services though cause Samsung is the #1 seller of google based phones.

if you're looking for a real experience out of Android. Don't buy a Samsung.

I agree. For the true Android experience the Nexus is the way to go. I have one of their tablets from a few years back (Nexus 7). They give you pure Android OS and always get the updates as soon as Google releases them.
 
Mac OS X and and (Windows) will create a page file when it runs out of memory. So that way, apps and websites don't need to load from scratch, they load off the disk. And with an SSD, most of the time there's not lag. So why can't iOS (and Android for that matter) do the same? Is disk space a problem? I feel like they could at least provide the option....
Chrome on Android already does do that.
 
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