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Please do continue to the discuss the earbuds. Please stick to that topic. ;)

Carry on...:cool:
 
have you tried others? because people who have will tell you the apple throw away headphones are absolute rubbish. they typically hurt like hell after long periods of use as well.
do yourself a favor, even if you don't want to spend a lot of money. get some basic Senn's or Sony fontopia's.

I've tried the Senn's and Sony's and I don't like them. The current Apple headphones are the only ones I like. I just found out I have a pair from my iPhone 4S box. So there's my back-up pair for now. Maybe I'l try and grab another pair while I can.
 
CDs are compressed...? I'm not sure what you're talking about. The digital information on CDs is lossless 16 bit per 44.1 kHz.

are you joking? yes, CDs are compressed. the sound waves are interpolated, compressed, etc. they are certainly not lossless when compared to the original waves.

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CDs are not compressed. They are full audio quality. And yes, there is a discernible difference in sound quality, but most people cannot tell.

CDs are lossless. You need to get your facts checked.

completely wrong. compared to the original recordings, the audio waves pressed onto CDs are certainly compressed. a trained ear can hear the difference; or you can look at the waves. CDs are interpolated.
 
are you joking? yes, CDs are compressed. the sound waves are interpolated, compressed, etc. they are certainly not lossless when compared to the original waves.

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completely wrong. compared to the original recordings, the audio waves pressed onto CDs are certainly compressed. a trained ear can hear the difference; or you can look at the waves. CDs are interpolated.

The term "compression" usually refers to "data compression", that means that by several mathematical tricks (huffmann coding, fourier analysis and synthesis, stereo signal processing, reduction of sampling rate to name some) the size of these files are reduced while trying to keep the audible quality the same. There are a lot of variations of this kind of processing.

What I think you are trying to say is that the data on a CD is digitalized or quantized. That is an inevitable part of the processing and every digital data is quantized. That is just how the technology works. However at 44100 Hz/16 bit this is considered to be not audible. The Nyquist-Shannon sampling theorem explains why that is the case: At 44100 Hz sampling frequency the highest possible frequency is 22050 Hz. Human hearing capabilities are limited to hearing up to 20 kHz (and that is certainly not the case any longer if you are older than, say 20 years). The "vertical" quantization (16 bit) results in a very subtle noise in the background. Most people can't hear this at volumes considered normal.

You also compared the recording to the original sound waves. That is pretty much senseless. You can never achieve a recording that sounds flawlessly like the original waves, as they always are just a (carefully and consciously chosen) excerpt of all the information in the real sound waves. In the signal path you have a microphone, you have a microphone amp, you have an A/D-converter, you have mixing software and at home you have a D/A-Converter, an amp and most important you have loudspeakers. Loudspeakers and Microphones are most likely the bottlenecks of this signal path. The processing in between is pretty much (please forgive me audiophiles) working perfectly nowadays (considering decent quality). The software processing in between is also very important. You see, audio recordings do not claim to be a perfect image of real sounds. Audio recordings do not try to fool you into thinking there is a real band sitting behind your speakers. The tweaking of the sound in the post processing is considered part of the artistic work.

There are recording of live performances as well, but believe me, you certainly don't need to have trained ears to be able to tell that the sounds coming from your loudspeakers are not "real". So thinking about that, I have absolutely no idea what your problem is.
 
They seem to resemble the Bose headphones and I'm not a fan those anymore. I wish Apple would return to using the DAC made by Wolfson, like they did with devices like the iPod 5G...
 
The only numbered iPhone was 4 and it was the 4th iPhone. I'm in the "iPhone" camp for the next one, but in no way is it the 5th iPhone and should not be called the iPhone 5. It isn't the fifth iPhone. There's nothing "5" about it.

  1. iPhone
  2. iPhone 3G
  3. iPhone 3Gs
  4. iPhone 4
  5. iPhone 4 [Verizon]
  6. iPhone 4s
  7. the next iPhone

Oh, good. By that logic, they're going to skip straight from iPhone 4s to iPhone 7! :eek: :rolleyes: :p

It'll be the 'iPhone 5' or the new 'iPhone'. It won't be the 'iPhone 6' *or* the 'iPhone 7'.
 
Redesigned or not, any self-respecting audio-lover will want to invest in some real earphones/headphones.
 
The headphones look nice, but I am getting so tired of these part leaks... I miss the times when I could be completely surprised during an Apple keynote.

If you want to be surprised you need to stop visiting rumour sites. ;)

Seriously there haven't been many true surprises since the original iMac and even that wasn't a surprise to me because the company I was working for at the time had been sent a prototype to ensure that our software would be compatible on day 1.
 
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How can people not see that the big opening goes inside your ear and the metal grill goes on the outside? Has anyone actually looked at any earphones? There is always a little opening for ventilation. And I would like to say that the new design looks at more comfortable than the ones out right now and a LOT better.
 
But since this is the iPhone, you need one that has a built-in mike and the iPod/iPhone compatible in-line controls.

I have the Klipsch Image S4i, a really nice model. Of course, the current Amazon price of US$68 can be a bit off-putting to some users. You can probably get by with the Sony DR-EX61iP, which sells for $30 on Amazon--and even the Sony model will likely have better souind quality than the Apple-supplied headset.

You don't NEED inline controls, but I get your point. Good that all the makes I quoted make iPhone compatible headphones with inline controls (or have separate cables available with mic / control with Shure).
 
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