Virginia Teacher Sentenced to 34 Months in Prison for 2014 Celebrity iCloud Hack

[0970373]

What the **** are these misogynistic comments on MR? His phishing BS was pure extortion that tarnished the reputation of prominent women by his posting of their private pictures in order to humiliate them. How he/the people who did this got the images does not matter + whether anyone decides to take potentially compromising pictures is their choice.

If anything, this case sets precedence for revenge porn and that is key here.

MR won't do anything about it either which just perpetuates the grossness of it. But yeah, the folks here who want to call it something else really don't see why such a thing is so damaging and hurtful. I mean, imagine nude photos of their wives or daughters or mothers were leaked. Pretty sure they wouldn't be so flippant about random male strangers making masterbation jokes at their expense. Imagine having a person like this in your life. It's disgusting and honestly, pretty indicative of the place this forum has become.

And gross attacks in 5...4...3...2...

 

[miniyou64]

I do. I actually think he is getting off pretty easy compared to the damage he did to so many people's image / reputations. What if we just lock him up until all copies of the images he stole are removed from the Internet? I am not a big fan of "celebrities" and I don't think they should have any extra rights than the rest of us. But they are people like the rest of us and this idiot launched an unprovoked personal attack on them. Lock him up.

A non violent “crime” and you want to put a person in a cage. Thats revenge. No one wins in that scenario. Especially not the celebs.
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MR won't do anything about it either which just perpetuates the grossness of it. But yeah, the folks here who want to call it something else really don't see why such a thing is so damaging and hurtful. I mean, imagine nude photos of their wives or daughters or mothers were leaked. Pretty sure they wouldn't be so flippant about random male strangers making masterbation jokes at their expense. Imagine having a person like this in your life. It's disgusting and honestly, pretty indicative of the place this forum has become.

And gross attacks in 5...4...3...2...

There’s a really easy solution here...

 

[DoctorTech]

A non violent “crime” and you want to put a person in a cage. Thats revenge. No one wins in that scenario. Especially not the celebs.
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There’s a really easy solution here...

I guess people are free to steal your car then - that is also a non violent "crime". While they are at it, they might also steal your identity and rack up $20,000 worth of credit card debt in your name, that would also be a non violent "crime". And if they can gain access to your phone / laptop backup files, they might be able to coerce you into paying them to not post whatever they find online - another non violent "crime".

I don't consider punishing non-violent criminals with jail time to be "revenge". A person can cause plenty of harm to others without doing physical violence so I stand by my original statement. The guy who stole and posted intimate photos from unsuspecting people deserves more than a couple of demerits in his personnel file and a verbal reprimand.

 

[jimbobb24]

He is a folk hero and leader of the Fappening, the William Wallace for lonely men everywhere.

This is the correct name of the event. “Celebgate”? Ridiculous.
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What the **** are these misogynistic comments on MR? His phishing BS was pure extortion that tarnished the reputation of prominent women by his posting of their private pictures in order to humiliate them. How he/the people who did this got the images does not matter + whether anyone decides to take potentially compromising pictures is their choice.

If anything, this case sets precedence for revenge porn and that is key here.

What he did was wrong.

But the majority of the impacted people were celebrities -people who will take off their clothes for money! People who assume a high moral standing just because they have fame and money despite doing nothing intrinsically moral. What he did was wrong but please don’t act like he debased a bunch of angles instead of already debased people. They cannot be tarnished.

 

[Tech198]

He accessed "unauthorized, 'protected' computer. Although not the type of hacking like DDOS. I wound call it "bypass."

 

[Abazigal]

Why would he get arrested for "unauthorized access" to a computer if they literally gave him the passwords?

Just because you have my keys doesn’t mean you are welcome in my house.

 

[cmaier]

What he did was wrong but please don’t act like he debased a bunch of angles

I don’t mean to sound obtuse, and I’m acutely aware I might be wrong, but I think whether or not they are angles is really a matter of degrees.

 

[gnasher729]

By comparing the hashed passwords of users and see hundreds that are the same as “pass123”?

Apple will not have the ability to compare hashed password. Passwords will be hashed and salted, which means your "real" password isn't pass123 but pass123@lotsofrandomdatasuppliedbyapple, so the hundreds of users with pass123 as their password will _not_ have the same hashed password. Not doing this is criminally incompetent.

 

[Breaking Good]

A non violent “crime” and you want to put a person in a cage. Thats revenge. No one wins in that scenario. Especially not the celebs.

Do you have a better idea on how to deter people from committing crimes like this?

Personally, I’d be fine with public flogging, but I don’t think that it will get enough support. So it looks like jail time is the best answer.

 

[cmaier]

A non violent “crime” and you want to put a person in a cage. Thats revenge. No one wins in that scenario. Especially not the celebs.
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There’s a really easy solution here...

No jail for non-violent crimes? Stealing cars? Bank fraud? Breaking and entering? Stalking? Identity theft? Simple assault? Destruction of property? Vandalism? Tax evasion? Insider trading? Burglary? Manufacturing illicit drugs?

none of them?

 

[charlituna]

But the majority of the impacted people were celebrities -people who will take off their clothes for money!

actually some of the folks were actors, not 'celebrities'. there's a difference. not that you care.

 

[crjackson2134]

Maybe I am clueless, but I had no idea that phishing emails were illegal......

Theft by deception...

 

[cocky jeremy]

Just because you have my keys doesn’t mean you are welcome in my house.

It does if you give them to me.

 

[cmaier]

It does if you give them to me.

Not necessarily. My maid service has my keys. They aren’t allowed to stop by whenever they want and take a shower.

When you give your car keys to the valet that doesn’t allow them to take the car for a joyride.

When you drop your bags with the bellman at a hotel, they don’t get to keep them.

 

[AFDoc]

He is a folk hero and leader of the Fappening, the William Wallace for lonely men everywhere.

I lol'd at this.

 

[miniyou64]

I guess people are free to steal your car then - that is also a non violent "crime". While they are at it, they might also steal your identity and rack up $20,000 worth of credit card debt in your name, that would also be a non violent "crime". And if they can gain access to your phone / laptop backup files, they might be able to coerce you into paying them to not post whatever they find online - another non violent "crime".

I don't consider punishing non-violent criminals with jail time to be "revenge". A person can cause plenty of harm to others without doing physical violence so I stand by my original statement. The guy who stole and posted intimate photos from unsuspecting people deserves more than a couple of demerits in his personnel file and a verbal reprimand.

Well then you would be wrong. They can pay damages for the damage they have caused. Car theft would be a violent crime by the way assuming they were destructive to tangible property.

 

[cmaier]

Well then you would be wrong. They can pay damages for the damage they have caused. Car theft would be a violent crime by the way assuming they were destructive to tangible property.

No. Violent crimes require violence or threats of violence against people, not property.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_crime

 

[willentrekin]

Seems like a light sentence for the digital equivalent of sexual assault, and a lot of the comments in this thread are disgustingly misogynistic.

 

[nouveau_redneck]

A non violent “crime” and you want to put a person in a cage. Thats revenge. No one wins in that scenario. Especially not the celebs.

The way you put "crime" in quotes seems to imply that you don't feel it was a crime. It certainly was a crime and there were victims. Yes, he needs to be put in a cage. Violent or not, what was done has been destructive to peoples lives.

Perhaps you can try to imagine yourself as victim to similar crimes and then you might reassess what punishment is just.

 

[venusboy]

I get so many phishing emails pretending to be from Apple on my iCloud email.

I just find it hard to believe that they don’t have technology that can recognise them on the server and delete them before they get to my inbox.

 

[DoctorTech]

Do you have a better idea on how to deter people from committing crimes like this?

Personally, I’d be fine with public flogging, but I don’t think that it will get enough support. So it looks like jail time is the best answer.

I like the way you think. A few months ago I received a series of spam emails (all in horribly broken English) that began with "Dear victim". The emails, which were all identically worded but sent from a dozen different email address over the course of a week, described a fictional virus the senders claimed to have put on my "device" (they didn't even specify if it was a phone, laptop or tablet). The email then claimed the fictional virus captured my screen video and video from my camera and that incriminating videos of me were going to be sent to everyone in my email address book unless I sent them a certain amount of money via BitCoin.

Part of me just wanted to laugh off the emails because I knew it was all a scam. But another part of me really wanted to see these spammers hunted down and brought to justice. They were making unprovoked threats and attempting to extort money from millions of people. Some small percentage of the people who received these emails were probably genuinely terrified that the email was true and ended up paying the money just to be safe. Such emails could even push a person already on the brink to suicide if they really thought the threat was real and that they were about to be publicly humiliated.

While the spammers did not directly commit an "act of violence", they were willing to risk causing some of their attempted victims to commit acts of violence against themselves. Fines are not enough for people who do things like this so I agree, jail time is the best answer.

 

[guzhogi]

If you're dumb enough to give up your password under any circumstances, you're asking for it and deserve it.

Wow. I sure hope you don't extend that logic to things like rape and murder.

 

[miniyou64]

The way you put "crime" in quotes seems to imply that you don't feel it was a crime. It certainly was a crime and there were victims. Yes, he needs to be put in a cage. Violent or not, what was done has been destructive to peoples lives.

Perhaps you can try to imagine yourself as victim to similar crimes and then you might reassess what punishment is just.

I wouldn’t put myself in this situation. And if I did I’d prefer compensation, nit revenge with cages which is absolutely meaningless to any kind of advancement or restitution except for just being barbaric.

 

[nouveau_redneck]

I wouldn’t put myself in this situation. And if I did I’d prefer compensation, nit revenge with cages which is absolutely meaningless to any kind of advancement or restitution except for just being barbaric.

I would agree that in some circumstance we should not put people in jail, rather use other forms of punishments including fines, public service, counseling, or other.

But not in this circumstance. What he did deserves hard punishment, perhaps with some psychiatric rehabilitation while in prison. It is not okay to have people in society that think it's okay to attempt to criminally destroy lives for profit or fun. That was not a slap on the wrist crime.

 

[Breaking Good]

I wouldn’t put myself in this situation. And if I did I’d prefer compensation, nit revenge with cages which is absolutely meaningless to any kind of advancement or restitution except for just being barbaric.

Compensation from whom? This guy was a school teacher. Are you saying you would trust him with your children? If you were an employer knowing what he did, would you trust him at all? How would this guy earn money to compensate you? And how much is your reputation worth?

Part of the reason for a jail sentence is retribution or revenge as you like to call it. But part is also to act as a deterent. Would you prefer that when someone commits a crime like this we just say, "It's OK, you just compensate the victims for their loss and we'll call it even. And if you can't compensate, just don't do it again."

You have a very odd perspective on the world, miniyou64.