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Apple's supply chain will begin shipping the Vision Pro headset to countries outside of the U.S. by mid-June, according to analyst Ming-Chi Kuo.

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In a brief post on social media platform X today, Kuo said the UK, France, Germany, China, Japan, and Singapore will be among the countries that begin receiving Vision Pro shipments later this month. Other countries that could be part of this expansion wave include Australia, Canada, and South Korea, we previously reported.

Apple could share international availability details for the Vision Pro during its WWDC keynote on June 10, alongside visionOS 2. The headset is expected to launch in the first countries outside of the U.S. before the end of July.

visionOS 2 will include more Apple apps optimized for the Vision Pro headset, and address other "missing features," according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman. The update could also introduce some kind of respiration tracking feature, and add Apple Pencil Pro support to the Vision Pro, based on rumors over the past few months.

Apple first launched the Vision Pro in the U.S. in early February.

Article Link: Vision Pro Expected to Launch Internationally Soon After Apple Unveils visionOS 2 at WWDC
 
Nice. I say it's still a wee bit too expensive for most folk. Compared to something like the Magic Leap, it's awesome. Definitely waiting until a cheaper model comes out (hopefully below $2000)
 
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AVP reminds me of AI, seems really cool but still can't figure out a use-case for me to justify the price though...

Yep. Waiting for a killer app or a price at which it could be an impulse buy for me. I dropped close to $2k on the OG Oculus Rift (with a new Windows PC) so that's about my threshold for AVP unless there is a must have at any cost killer feature. For the record though, I am still very hopeful about the long-term prospects of this.

As for AI - I am using LLMs almost daily at work and it's still very much in its infancy. I recommend everyone gets onboard with that ASAP and starts playing around to understand and start seeing possibilities it can bring. Custom GPTs based on limited technical content are getting good - VERY good.
 
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How to boost sales. Just support prescription lenses with Apple Vision Pro. Or sell two models: one not supporting prescription lenses (current one), and other only to watch 3D movies (or any movie on large area), allowing prescription glasses (which would also be a much much, much cheaper model, selling like hotcakes). Problem solved for all.
 
I see that Lowe’s is giving customers home improvement demos using Vision Pro. 3D immersive. I’m sure HD soon to follow
It's not that this is the final form factor we will have in 20 years or that AVP is perfect...both counts are untrue.

It's that it completely changes the dynamic of how you interact with the world/other people/other AVP users and glimpse into the future. I rarely want to use my iPhone/Mac/iPad now. They now seem antiquated.

It's magical, to quote SJ. He'd have been proud of this product.
 
How to boost sales. Just support prescription lenses with Apple Vision Pro. Or sell two models: one not supporting prescription lenses (current one), and other only to watch 3D movies (or any movie on large area), allowing prescription glasses (which would also be a much much, much cheaper model, selling like hotcakes). Problem solved for all.

The current model does support prescription inserts, which are a much better experience overall than trying to wear your glasses under a headset.
 
Do all of you who are dissing AVP actually have one and used it? Here is the PERFECT video to describe what an owner like me feels:


Useless to try with this crowd. Most seemed to mentally bury it before it was even born.

EVERY Vpro thread has the "solution in search of a problem" and "what's a use case?" posts... when the very same people repeatedly see the answer to both in thread after thread: every tech company is trying to find a path towards making MOBILE screens BIGGER. Existing form factors can't simply scale up much more. For example, we've seen a MB 17" before but can you imagine the weight of a 20", 24", 30"? Would anyone want to lug around the weight of a 30" MB? Since Vpro can deliver a 100" screen, who wants to lug around the very heavy weight of a 100" (presumably maxi-multi-fold) MB 100"? Who's got the back for that?

Anyone like me who does the bulk of their computing on a BIG desktop screen (mine is 40" ultra-wide) who then has to shift to 16" when traveling feels the great productivity crash of the loss of all that screen R.E. It is dramatic, frustrating, etc. I always look forward to getting back to the main setup and that huge screen.

Best I know there are 4 ways to maintain MOBILITY benefits while meaningfully delivering bigger screens:
  1. Vpro and similar virtual screens
  2. Foldable screens
  3. Rollable screens
  4. Projector that projects on something else acting as screen
All of these already exist as products from somebody(s)...

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...and there are strong rumors of Apple working on some kind of foldable MB to try to deliver an 18"-20" screen too. And there are plenty of rumors of an iPhone Fold.

Vpro and similar and #4 Projector are the only types that can scale the screen to ANY size without scaling weight too. Conceptually there could be a gigantic fold or multi-fold or a gigantic rollable screen but those will have weight rising with size of screen. A major enemy of MOBILITY is weight. Does anybody want the weight of a 20" iPhone in their pocket? Does anybody want all of the aluminum weight to make the bottom half of a MB 30" be the same size as the top half?

So Vpro & similar and projector lock the weight while delivering any size screen. For someone like me who really feels it when "forced" to drop from 40" to 16", those kinds of options have strong draw. I too don't love the high pricing but I disagree with others seeking halving the price or more because I know that to cut pricing of anything Apple makes in half would mean tremendous cuts to the features & benefits of those things. We've seen attempts at this before from Apple and then ridicule the tangible cuts to support the lowered prices. Often what we want is THE SAME features & benefits for a much lower price. The only way that happens here and gets close to target prices is if Apple opted to forgo their huge margin... and then squeezed some sizable discounts out of others who make something for it and tangibly cut a few things that may be less important.

For example, of the $2K or less that so many call for, 4K-per-eye almost certainly must get cut to a much lower resolution. The whole point of something with the name "Vision" is to deliver exceptional visuals to our eyes. Do we want a Vpro Jr with 1080 resolution like many others priced down in our target price range? What's the big complaint with the other products priced down there: BLURRY. Do we want to spend $1K-$2K on blurry Vpro Jr? Or will that not be worth that "half price" range because now it's so blurry?

Is Vpro worth $3500+? What things are worth is wallet of the beholder. With other smart phones available for $150, is an iPhone worth $1500? With abundant laptop computers for sale below $250, is a MBpro at $2K-$3K-$4K, etc worth its price? Was that original gen Edition Watch worth $17K? Is an Apple handkerchief at $20 justifiable? How about a thousand dollar monitor stand? How about stripping the Mac out of the iMac screen, leaving the keyboard and mouse out of the box too but then selling what is left for the same "starting at" pricing as the old iMac? Is that a good price?

With just as much zeal, people will passionately argue FOR relatively high pricing for other Apple products. This one makes many argue AGAINST its pricing. For me, I think about a scenario where there was a MB-fold, MB-roll, MB-projector and MB-virtual (screen) all for sale and I'd probably always favor the latter two and the virtual screen one the most of all 4 options. Why? Any size screen at a fixed weight. And it vs. the projector option means no light bleed to wash out the view.

To each his own of course. I have zero problem seeing tremendous utility in an any-size monitor anywhere I happen to be. I spent $2K for a fixed size monitor that will be anchored to a single spot for probably its entire lifetime. So Vpro is not really that much more for a mobile version of the same in a light-weight package... that can also scale to 2X or bigger too. Someone else might be perfectly happy getting by on the relatively puny screens in the technology they already own. If it makes one happy, be happy.

I look forward to seeing upgrades to that OS. Hopefully Apple listened and have made some big strides. I even more so look forward to about version 4-8 of this OS when there has been enough time to listen much more and make many more strides. Like everyone, I'll hope Apple finds a way to a lower price that somehow doesn't have to compromise some of the best hardware features like 4K-per-eye... but I don't see that anymore than I see half price or lower iPhones, MBs and iPads.
 
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Do all of you who are dissing AVP actually have one and used it? Here is the PERFECT video to describe what an owner like me feels:

I guess we are all going to pretend that replacing real experiences with simulations is somehow a good thing when doing this exact same thing already minus a headset has created so many physical and psychological problems for people. This guy’s entire climactic point is that people not doing an experience can simulate that experience. I’d rather be the person doing the real thing and not sitting alone in my house pretending to.
 
I guess we are all going to pretend that replacing real experiences with simulations is somehow a good thing when doing this exact same thing already minus a headset has created so many physical and psychological problems for people. This guy’s entire climactic point is that people not doing an experience can simulate that experience. I’d rather be the person doing the real thing and not sitting alone in my house pretending to.
Yep, this might be neat tech, but it is wrong for society.
 
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Do all of you who are dissing AVP actually have one and used it? Here is the PERFECT video to describe what an owner like me feels:

I'm not spending 3.5-5K € because it makes someone feel things.

And if you have to have get me to sit through a 20m+ video and experience someone's emotions to sell me on a product then whatever value it holds has to be highly emotional, irrational, and probably abstract.

Also, Jon Prosser is about as much of an Apple enthusiast as anyone can be and makes a living off the positive and negative hype surrounding everything Apple.

I do like his videos. But I'm not taking advice on AVP for something who has dedicated their life to Apple products, or really anyone in the tech and Apple influencer bubble.

Prosser eats and sleeps Apple. I'm never going to relate.

Instead of this "you don't own it so you'll never get it" talk, I want you to write a single paragraph or a list of bullet points why anyone would want or needs to own an AVP if they already own an iPhone and a Mac, or an iPhone and an iPad. Be specific.

Yes, I get that the visual and spatial experience might be uniquely convincing and immersive. I'm not immune to AR/VR.

But for which work related task would any professional opt for an AVP over what they can already do better, cheaper, faster or more conveniently on an iPhone or a Mac, or a combo of the two?
 
You’re missing the point. There are times you can’t be there in person. I’m dating someone long distance. In between in person times we can still occupy the same virtual space. It’s a nice option to have. And you’re not “alone”-I go to coffee shops and do my busy computing work and can still interact with humans. I find myself much more present and less distracted with the AVP on because I’m not staring down at a screen-and aware of my environment now.
 
Do all of you who are dissing AVP actually have one and used it? Here is the PERFECT video to describe what an owner like me feels:

Thanks for sharing that. He does get a bit yappy, but that video does a great job of showing the experience of living with the AVP. And you're right, there's nuance and thought (from personal experience!) that he can include, that goes way beyond the reflexive "it's like sticking an iPad to your face plus it weighs literally 5 tons, no I haven't tried it and never will but I haaaate it anyway" type comments here.

Long video, worth the time though. I haven't even been to a store for a demo, and this gives me insight I didn't have.
 
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