Vista 64 vs XP for gaming

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  1. Akula971 macrumors regular

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    I've searched the forums and can't find anyone who has tried both. At the moment I reboot (via bootcamp) into windows XP for my gaming fix. I play mainly steam games and Silent Hunter, FarCry and Crysis. However XP does not see all my RAM (16GB), whilst I'm sure Vista 64 would. The question I have to ask is would it make any real difference to the games at all? I run a 2008 2.8GHz MacPro with an 8800 card. Does 64 bit make much of a difference or DX10 for that matter?

    If you've tried both I'd be interested to know your thoughts.

    Thank you

    Derek
     
  2. m1stake macrumors 68000

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    Vista64. I finally got rid of my XP partition a few months ago because I never used it.
     
  3. MRU macrumors demi-god

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    Download the 30 day trial of Vista 64 bit and compare it to your current XP experience.

    If it's much improved spend the cash and buy a license. If not... delete....
     
  4. ayeying macrumors 601

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    Since you have that much ram, go with Vista 64. The extra accessible memory would be beneficial.
     
  5. Akula971 thread starter macrumors regular

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    Where is this free trial? I can't find it?
     
  6. odinsride macrumors 65816

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    Vista 64 is pretty decent for gaming (and that's about it ;))

    I have a gaming rig with C2Q 9450, 8gb ram, a Velociraptor, and an 8800 gts, with Vista 64 bit Ultimate...games run so well on it
     
  7. Dorfdad macrumors 6502

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    Well I have to toss my hat in here, I used XP and than switched to Vista 32 bit for two reasons..


    #1. Vista 64 Bit is not supported and I can not find anywhere to get the proper boot camp drivers to support 2007 Imacs 2.4 Gig with Radeon 2600 video card. If you know a link please email me from what I understand you need a copy from the newest MacPro laptops for these drivers.

    #2. XP only supports 2 gigs of ram I believe, Vista 32 seems 4 but only uses 3.5 and if you have a 256 or 512 Video card you only have 3 gigs of ram left for gaming. with SP1 Vista 32 is a complete OS faster than XP and nicer!

    I know people will say apple has the latest boot camp drivers on there site, but unless you have tried this your wrong. Those drivers are not for the iMAC's.. You need the MACPRO drivers from this year

    if you can prove me otherwise please feel free to I would love to get Vista 64 working for full use of 4 GIGS of ram..
     
  8. themoonisdown09 macrumors 601

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    I've never heard of Windows having free trials of any of their operating systems for download.
     
  9. Dorfdad macrumors 6502

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    They don't offer trials per say but they do allow 30 days before activation is required..
     
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    The critical thing, compared to XP: you can use it in
    evaluation mode without entering a serial number.
     
  12. Tex-Twil macrumors 68020

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    Hello,
    I'm running Vista 64bits on my new MBP (see signature) and I'm actually considering instaling XP 32 bits because ... well I dont like Vista that much.

    I would be interested in seeing someone's 3D Mark 06 score on XP with the same MBP. My score is 5751

    cheers,
    Tex
     
  13. Akula971 thread starter macrumors regular

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    I took the plunge

    Well I got the 64 bit ultimate version. It wouldn't install under boot camp, it got to the "which disk to install to" and said that there where no disks suitable or that the disk I selected was in "GPT" format or something or other. So I reformatted the drive in XP and just booted from the DVD when the machine restarted. It then installed OK. I then tried to run Silent Hunter III, which just gave a warning after it installed that it would only run on a XP,2000, ME, etc. Searched the net and found out it was the copy protection stuff DVD checker thingy. I installed a no CD crack and it ran fine. It loads quicker, runs the same. I do find the "confirm/allow" thing a bit annoying. Vista rates the machine as a 5.6 for HD performance and 5.6 for everything else. So far so good. There are so many things that I see in Vista that just make me think, Oh thats just like Tiger!
     
  14. Tex-Twil macrumors 68020

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    You can disable it in the Control Pannel, User Preferences
     
  15. thewright1 macrumors regular

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    This is some good info you all. I was stuck between which OS to install, so I think I'll go with Vista 64 SP1.
     
  16. drichards macrumors 6502a

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    The product(RED) edition of Vista64 is on sale at Microsoft's super secret site for $65 as long as you have a .edu email, tru the end of December for US customers.
     
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    I'm also weighing up the advantages / cons of having Vista64 or XPSP3 for gaming / rendering

    From what I've learned , Vista 64 now has drivers for most apps, and it's logical to use Vista64 seeing as it can use more RAM available to it. Plus its the future. Well, actually, maybe not......

    In my hunt for reviews about Vista64 I found out about Windows 7.
    Excuse my ignorance, but what the...Vista will be replaced already???

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/29/technology/business-computing/29soft.html
     
  19. drichards macrumors 6502a

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    Windows 7 will be a good upgrade from Vista, use less resources, be able to perform better on low end machines, and it has alot of newer integrated apps. Its speculated that the os will drop legacy support entirely, which should piss off IT guys.
     
  20. Tex-Twil macrumors 68020

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    Well it is far from being ready but yes, Microsoft is working on it and I think that a first public beta should be available soon.

    Based on my own experience, I really prefer XP 32bits rather that Vista 64bits for gaming. I got a better 3D Mark score but I also find XP just faster even if it uses only 3GB out of the 4 that my MBP has.
     
  21. drichards macrumors 6502a

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    In XP, an individual program can only access 2GB of ram, it wouldn't make much of a difference then even if the OS could see 4GB.
     
  22. Stridder44 macrumors 68040

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    Let's see some real-world test. Benchmarks are useless.
     
  23. Joker2206 macrumors newbie

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    I used All of Vista and XP versions. It means 4 versions.
    So.... XP 32 definetly if you want fast OS and better for gaming than Vista.

    There are many topics on the internet that say Vista sucks for gaming if you use Super prefetch, but if you disable it then your OS boots very slow and every application you start takes more time.
    Of course, if you use at least 2 HD's in Raid, you get vista to good performance (considering you have bunch of ram already).

    Vista 64 should be future, but most of applications don't use 64-bit code, so only advantage of 64-bit OS is it can take more memory, but even then you can use 64 XP which is more stable and faster then 64 Vista.

    You can try all of this by yourself. I'm using 2 computers, 1 uses raid, 1 not and the one that doesn't use vista speed simply can be called vista slow.

    XP 32 bit can accept up to 3.5 Gb of ram, Vista 32 up to 4 I think, but any 64 version has much greater limit.

    So, If you have less then 4 Gb stick to 32 XP, otherwise you can try XP or 64 Vista, depending you want nice and fancy-resource-hungry looking vista or great working XP. Vista has some advantages, but for now, still XP.

    I switched back to XP and will never come back to Vista...Maybe windows 7 if it gets good optimization.

    I must mention, i get blue screen on Vista without reason. Nothing was working, just desktop standing (this was 32-bit Vista).
     
  24. Trip.Tucker Guest

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    For what? Not for games, they are 32 bit. The only benefit will be running a database engine or a 64 bit coded cad program.
     

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