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The first part being true doesn’t mean Apple can’t also sometimes be greedy by keeping proprietary connection standards.

I’m sure Apple has a huge variety of everything you listed in various prototypes, but if they can’t make enough at a standard Apple is happy with, what good will it do?
I never said the 1st part was true. I was clarifying the point that the responder was trying to make. I don't believe that iPhone's are missing technology that already exists in competitors products because of supply issues. Like every other part in an iPhone (including new technology when Apple does introduce it) , if Apple says they need x-number of pieces, they find factories to make them.
 
The fact that Apple has made the decision to put FaceID on the iPhones and TouchID on the MacBooks is positively insane. Do the Apple execs/designers even use their own products? When I am using my MacBook I am never not looking directly at the screen… perfect scenario for FaceID. While much of the time I am using my phone it is at a weird angle… where TouchID would be so much more useful.
Do you always use an external monitor? I can't understand how one uses a MacBook without looking at the screen?
 
Vivo? Never heard of em. How do these random companies develop this stuff so seemingly easily while apple flounders to make significant changes with all their money and power?
Easy. Apple doesn't give a **** about under screen fingerprint scanners. FaceID is better, so why waste time on it? What's easier than looking at your phone? Nothing.
 
The fact that Apple has made the decision to put FaceID on the iPhones and TouchID on the MacBooks is positively insane. Do the Apple execs/designers even use their own products? When I am using my MacBook I am never not looking directly at the screen… perfect scenario for FaceID. While much of the time I am using my phone it is at a weird angle… where TouchID would be so much more useful.
I completely agree, I’m taping on the screen to wake the phone or use it, Touch ID works better especially with things like Apple Pay ect. Face ID would be so much better on a screen that you look directly at face on
 
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I wish Apple would actually do something with their phones. Year after year it's the smallest bit of "upgrade" It feels like a damn Toyota Corolla at this point adding the smallest of things without trying to really do something groundbreaking and worthy of an update. I have an iPhone 11 and not a single update since has seemed worthwhile and the next one doesn't sound much of a better update itself. Innovate, damnit.
 
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All good improving technology, but what’s the issue with lock button finger print sensors? I’ve always found them way more intuitive and reliable than in screen finger readers I’ve tested. Easier to find the placement too. I just don’t really see the need for it whilst there is still a lock button? If Apple has both Touch ID in the lock button and Face ID wouldn’t that be the best of both?
I cant remember the last time I had a phone with a case that didnt have the power/lock button covered up. I guess it would give case manufacturers a reason to make a new case design.
 
One day in the future, Apple will "invent" in-display fingerprint sensors. Until then I hope that some of those "too old to invent" people leave Apple. Tim, Phil, Scott, ..., they had their time. They should leave and some younger people with fresh ideas should run the company.
 
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Holding the phone to your face when you’re holding the phone to look at anyway is just so simple. Why change it just to have something different?
 
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“Let’s block that company!”.
Harder and harder to justify over $1000 for an IPhone that is basically the same every year.
We know the slogan this year “the best camera on an iPhone EEEEEEEVER”.
And that’s it. Is the pandemic or is it Tim?, but IPhones are getting stuck in the past.
 
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The fact that Apple has made the decision to put FaceID on the iPhones and TouchID on the MacBooks is positively insane. Do the Apple execs/designers even use their own products? When I am using my MacBook I am never not looking directly at the screen… perfect scenario for FaceID. While much of the time I am using my phone it is at a weird angle… where TouchID would be so much more useful.
Exactly!!!!
They don’t seem to use their products at all!!
 
Apple remains focused on Face ID….”

Of course they do. Because Face ID is highly secure, has matured and is obviously Apple’s chosen biometric security method moving forward, as it’s expanding to other products.

Has anyone even come close to Apple in terms of replicating Face ID? We see all these ‘under the screen fingerprint readers’, but it appears nobody’s been able to replicate what Apple has been able to do.

None of these biometric security options are perfect, and they’re not expected to be. However, it should be more about protecting the user as much as possible -versus- just adding the next ‘cool tech feature’.
My Pixel 4 was better than any other android or iPhone when it came to face ID. Didnt even have to wake it from sleep using its Soli tech, would start the camera the second the phone was lifted was picked up.

As far as Computer wise, Windows hello still blows my mind. I havent had to enter a password or pin in I dont know how long and its quick.
 
So you're saying Apple actually has large in-screen fingerprint sensors, 80W charging capability and camera's with periscope lenses but keeps them in a drawer because they can't produce 10's of millions?

What, exactly, is their excuse for not replacing the lighting connector with USB-C? You're excuses don't work for that.

No doubt Apple has dozens of lab prototypes with those features that are vetted internally in trials.

And for whatever reasons Apple has determined those features are not yet ready for market or are not up to Apple's standards.

The above is despite the phone "experts" here with superior knowledge who have personally long-term tested these technologies over a decent sized sample population and concluded they meet Apple's criteria for being ready for market.
 
Holding the phone to your face when you’re holding the phone to look at anyway is just so simple. Why change it just to have something different?
That is fine if you are already holding the phone. Mine spends most of the time on my desk. I have to pick up my phone for faceID to activate, and then put it down again afterwards. I used to be able to just tap the phone with touchID. The two ID options work better in different situations, which is why both should be available.
 
Chinese people work harder and don't complain. Apple employees still refuse to return to the office and want to continue "working" at home.
I don't always want to be the guy who says "If you love dictatorships so much, go live under one of those"...
 
I really wish Apple would return TouchID, even if it's on the button like the iPad Air has. There are so many use cases for TouchID being better/easier than having to *stare* at the phone to unlock it.
Why are you unlocking your phone if you are not looking at it already?
 
Apple remains focused on Face ID….”

Of course they do. Because Face ID is highly secure, has matured and is obviously Apple’s chosen biometric security method moving forward, as it’s expanding to other products.
‘expanding to other products’ is quite the mouth full when in reality, it has ‘expanded’ to the iPad Pro in 2018 and that was it... the notch has ‘expanded’ to the MBP line, but that’s not quite the same, right?
 
The fact that Apple has made the decision to put FaceID on the iPhones and TouchID on the MacBooks is positively insane. Do the Apple execs/designers even use their own products? When I am using my MacBook I am never not looking directly at the screen… perfect scenario for FaceID. While much of the time I am using my phone it is at a weird angle… where TouchID would be so much more useful.
This is real reason why the MBP doesn't have Face ID.

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