Wow, its awesome that vizio is updating 2016 TVs. All the other manufactures are using this to get people to upgrade their TVs.
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Vizio Begins Rolling Out AirPlay 2 and HomeKit to 2016 and Newer SmartCast TVs Following Beta Testing
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To those who are "outraged" that their tv is not getting this update...why don't you already have an Apple TV?
I mean, if AirPlay is THAT important. Just sayin'.
I do not care about AirPlay 2, I care about HomeKit (the ability to turn the set on and off, and select a source). While the AppleTV can turn a set on or off if it is the selected source (and sometimes can force itself to be the selected source) via CEC, it cannot turn off the TV if it is not the source, nor can it change the TV to a source other than it (e.g. a game system).
On the other hand, I am not surprised that they have not done it (there is so little margin in many of these sets that supporting old firmware is just not profitable), and would not be surprised if there is not enough SoC horsepower to do it (not saying there is not, just that these guys put the absolute cheapest chips with no concern about headroom for growth).
Probably none. It's one less device, which is one less thing that can go wrong. I think if you don't have a universal remote it'll make your life a bit easier.
I'm not a big HomeKit fan, but it's probably great for HomeKit users.
But, Apple TV will turn off any modern tv and receiver when it is turned off. I guess that I just can't imagine a scenario where HomeKit would improve that.
Maybe it's because I don't have cable, and the ATV is the only source that I ever have my av receiver set to. When I turn the ATV on, tv and receiver come on. Same when I turn it off.
I hear a lot of people complaining about LG displays not getting this new tech, but I have been conditioned to just expect this sort of thing (HomeKit promises from so may companies broken).
One thing I'm surprised no one is talking about here is the timeline for this Vizio update rollout. My ecosystem is 100% apple where ever it can be. They make promises, and they deliver, and they do so in a very timely fashion. I have the latest M series Vizio and checking for updates showed nothing. How is the "next couple months" a reasonable timeline for getting this? I mean they have had a pretty prolonged beta (that I could not sign up for because it was closed by the time I bought my TV).
One thing I'm surprised no one is talking about here is the timeline for this Vizio update rollout. My ecosystem is 100% apple where ever it can be. They make promises, and they deliver, and they do so in a very timely fashion. I have the latest M series Vizio and checking for updates showed nothing. How is the "next couple months" a reasonable timeline for getting this? I mean they have had a pretty prolonged beta (that I could not sign up for because it was closed by the time I bought my TV).
That's still a better tineframe than NEVER, which is what LG, Sony, Samsung etc are getting.
The idea is you say "goodnight" to Siri or you leave the house, then your TV automatically stops playing and turns off. It may be a beta feature, but I think you can set triggers based on playing, so when you start a movie, the lights dim.
Also HDMI-CEC is really buggy. One of my TV/receiver combos never works right, it switches to the Apple TV for a few seconds then something else takes priority and the source switches there instead.
It will not turn off the TV if it is not the selected source (e.g. a game system) and you put it to sleep. Having HomeKit integration would mean a “good night” scene could turn off the TV no what the last selected source was.
I have the same TV, it’s holding up great! I use it with my AppleTV 4K - match made in heaven. The built-in Samsung interface is incredibly ugly, slow and buggy.
Mine always works. HDMI-CEC, that is.
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What turns off your game system?
If you use a CEC enabled HDMI cable to connect your AppleTV, you don't need that extra step, the input source on the TV will automatically switch. Even better, if your TV was asleep when you AirPlay to your AppleTV, it will automatically wake up your TV as well.
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Are there any advantages if you had one of these Airplay 2 & homekit enabled TV's as well as a AppleTV 4k connected to said TV? Does the combination of both enable additional use cases or functionality or some sorts? Just wondering. Thanks
Are there any advantages if you had one of these Airplay 2 & homekit enabled TV's as well as a AppleTV 4k connected to said TV? Does the combination of both enable additional use cases or functionality or some sorts? Just wondering. Thanks
Wouldn't be surprised if LG does eventually offer support on older models.
Also wouldn't be surprised if someone gets an older model there via homebrew efforts.
Also wouldn't be surprised if someone gets an older model there via homebrew efforts.
Apple TV can also be configured that way.
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No. That's one big difference between these AirPlay-enabled TVs and AppleTV.
Guessing from the fact that they started official rollout after having months of Beta program, and the fact that they restricted the amount of people to join the Beta program, it's likely the actual rollout timeframe won't be that long, they likely just reserved enough room for pausing the rollout to fix urgent bugs found by earlier waves of Guinea Pigs.
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With AppleTV, you can AirPlay video to your TV display while at the same time AirPlay its sound track to your HomePod. This is a feature these AirPlay-enabled TVs miss.
With these TVs natively support HomeKit, you can remotely turn off your TV even when it's playing cable contents.
With these TVs natively support AirPlay, you can adjust TV volume on your phone when AirPlaying. These are things AppleTV are never allowed to do.
True, but look at top end model prices today and top end model prices 5 and 10 years ago. They’re going down. I think TV manufacturers are trying to find the sweet spot for people to buy more often and still make increased profits.
Yeah, they still have insanity-price models for the “money is no object” people of the world but they’d be mad to reduce the prices on those as they’re easy money for zero effort.
This is only for like 4 models at the moment, not all of the models in the article: https://support.vizio.com/articles/en_US/EXT_Issues/Apple-AirPlay-2-and-HomeKit-Release-Information
Pretty insane. I bought the 2016 Vizio because it was an insane bang for you buck at the time (still is). It is actually turning into one of the best TVs I have owned.
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Vizio did make a big push with the P-series in 2016 to complete with "big boys" at a budget price. At that time 4K, Dolby Vision, and FALD TVs costed well north of $3K. Vizio sold the P-series for $1799 from the get-go. They were always a budget TV, but this was a budget TV with specs that rivaled the very best from Samsung, Sony, and LG.
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Ensure you have HDMI CEC enabled on your TV if it supports it. The Apple TV has no problem waking up my Vizio (nor the Sony before it) and switching to the right input as needed (including being waken up for use by AirPlay or the remote). I don't think this update will make it to any TVs without HDMI CEC.
Anyone hear any updates as to when the Apple TV app is going to make it onto the Amazon Fire TV sticks?
Although I still *try* to purchase home automation gadgets that work with both HomeKit and Alexa (and, ideally, also with Google), I recently wanted some extra cameras and couldn't resist getting some Wyze cams since they're so cheap and are pretty feature-rich. But they don't work with HomeKit. They *do* however work nicely with the Amazon Echo Spot, Echo Show, and Fire TV sticks. So I've found myself "standardizing" on using Alexa for everything.
When the Apple TV app comes to the Fire TV and I can play my iTunes movie library that way, it will be nice to not have a single TV input / device that can play everything I want it to.
Although I still *try* to purchase home automation gadgets that work with both HomeKit and Alexa (and, ideally, also with Google), I recently wanted some extra cameras and couldn't resist getting some Wyze cams since they're so cheap and are pretty feature-rich. But they don't work with HomeKit. They *do* however work nicely with the Amazon Echo Spot, Echo Show, and Fire TV sticks. So I've found myself "standardizing" on using Alexa for everything.
When the Apple TV app comes to the Fire TV and I can play my iTunes movie library that way, it will be nice to not have a single TV input / device that can play everything I want it to.
I got excited last night because there was a update for my 2018 Sony Bravia. Thought maybe AirPlay 2 and Homekit. Sadly if was just an update that changed the UI and now it is laggy as hell. Honestly Android does not need to be everywhere on everything. I would be happy if Apple rolled out TVOs for manufactures to use it is smooth and the remote is awesome. But sadly that may never happen. I think if TV manufacturers want brand loyalty treat your customers with great support if a TV is capable of getting an update do it. Or I will move to someone who does.
I think you are right (it seems like I heard something about that 1-2 years ago) but I don't know the details of that incident. The other company that I will not buy from again is Bose. They make great speakers but I lost all trust in the company when they did virtually the same thing as LG. They logged everything customers were listening to on their headsets and sold that information to 3rd parties. I have been looking for more information on the federal, class action suit that was filed agains them but I have not seen anything in quite a while.
https://ausdroid.net/2017/04/21/bose-facing-lawsuit-data-collection-user-privacy/
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In the case of cellular companies, yes, I do use one of those because I can't find a national carrier that hasn't been involved in selling location data. Likewise, I only have 2 options for home Internet service (both are listed above) so I do use one of them (with a VPN). However, not every TV manufacturer has been caught spying on customers. Where I have choice to buy from companies that have been caught spying on customers vs those that have not, I will always buy from the ones that have not.