As of 3rd quarter 2018 Netflix hard around 137M subscribers. It’s profit for that quarter was around $400M. How in the world is Apple going to maintain the kind of profits it has now with subscription services. Google makes most of it’s money from advertising. Amazon from AWS. Microsoft it’s their cloud business as well as Office 365 (and maybe still Windows). The majority of Apple’s current services revenue is the cut they get from IAP plus iCloud plus AppleCare. I can’t see video or news/magazine services generating the kind of profits their premium hardware business does.More evidence that Apple is slowly transitioning into a services company. It'll be a slow, possibly bumpy transition, but this is going to be interesting to watch. It's becoming increasingly apparent that they cannot solely depend on hardware dominance moving forward.
Apple has always been a tight eco system but unfortunately they are branching out cos they are losing sales this is sad for apple
The ATV is way cheaper than buy a new premium TV set. It is not way cheaper than buying an average smart TV... which can be had for as little as $250-$300... <-- 4K panels at that cost. Once Apple's services become ubiquitous on TV's (like Google's Chromecast) the ATV seems even less of a value than it already does.
I have 2 TCL TVs with Roku. Interface works really well. If the new Apple is sticking its content everywhere then I hope they bring it tk Roku too.Not to mention the fact that MANY people with smart TVs opt for an ATV or Roku because the built in interfaces tend to be incredibly janky and are never fluid when it comes to app switching.
Oh, man, the Apple TV is going to be so sad when it finds out…![]()
Don't you also have to have a newer TV though?Anyone know where we can register for beta testing?
They don't want to become another Blackberry. Ya snooze, ya lose!Apple has always been a tight eco system but unfortunately they are branching out cos they are losing sales this is sad for apple
Damn, with all of these CES HomeKit announcements it's looking like 2019 might finally be the "Year of HomeKit".
Per the article:I'm probably missing something about AirPlay...
If a new smart TV has AirPlay built-in, and there is no ATV involved...what will be sourcing video to the TV over AirPlay?
My laptop as I'm doing work and other tasks on it?
Seems to be a choice of whatever device you want to use.AirPlay 2 support will allow users to stream videos, music, photos, and more directly from an iPhone, iPad, and Mac to SmartCast-enabled Vizio TVs, complete with lock screen controls.
Want to be includedAnyone know where we can register for beta testing?
I do not know why people keep saying this? It is not like the average consumer updates their TV on a regular basis. The ATV is still way cheaper than buying a new set.
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Agreed. It is a very smart move on their part. People are not upgrading hardware like they did 2 years ago.
Per Rene Ritchie, they prototyped a TV twice, but never got to an end-product they felt would work in the market.I don’t normally agree with Nilay Patel, but I do agree here. Have a TV that runs tvOS, supports FaceTime, AirPlay, HomeKit. And if Apple didn’t want to go low end they could do a higher end OLED TV \. Apple is very good with displays. I’m sure they could make a killer TV.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/6/1...ons-about-apple-putting-itunes-on-samsung-tvs
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I don’t normally agree with Nilay Patel, but I do agree here. Have a TV that runs tvOS, supports FaceTime, AirPlay, HomeKit. And if Apple didn’t want to go low end they could do a higher end OLED TV \. Apple is very good with displays. I’m sure they could make a killer TV.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/6/1...ons-about-apple-putting-itunes-on-samsung-tvs
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Vizio, Samsung and LG. These TVs represent the vast majority of them in homes today. If AirPlay 2 is on all of them, retroactively by at least a year, suddenly AirPlay becomes ubiquitous. Waiting for the LG announcement now.
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Apple Watch itself has the potential to displace iPhone as our main personal computer. As it increases in power and as Siri gets better at recognizing your speech and what you mean using machine learning, it can be a voice first personal assistant on your wrist that can do almost anything that an iPhone can do. Only almost because there are things that require a large sceen to do effectively, such as watching videos or displaying pictures. What if you could count on there always being an AirPlay enabled screen nearby? Well, Apple is making that exact move today.
Per the article:
Seems to be a choice of whatever device you want to use.
...as long as it doesn't have Apple's horrid remote control. Easily the worst thing about my Apple TV 4k. I don't know where they got the UX guy from that designed that piece of ****. While the original remotes (1st-3rd gen ATV) were a bit small, at least you could tell which side was "up". I pick up the new one and start "selecting" and nothing happens - because I'm holding it upside down. I have stopped counting how often something happened on-screen - because the remote slipped under my a$$ and I started clicking with my rectum :-( And someone answer me why turning off the TV/ATV should be a 3 step operation (go to main screen, hold a button for a few seconds, select "sleep")??? Utterly terrible design.Less than 36 hours I posted a rant about how Apple completely ignore HomeKit and AirPlay 2 ( As well as Wallet and Apple Pay / Cash ).... here we have more announcement in Homekit and AirPlay 2 than everything added together since both launch.
Oh Well. Better late then never. BUT.
I still want a TV set with Apple UI.
Sometimes I feel like the only person that likes the ATV4K. We have 3 of them now throughout the house. They are our primary viewing boxes since we use PSVue for our "cable." They are reliable little buggers. Also, with little kids, it's so nice to use my airpods to watch tv after they are in bed. One Airpod for me, one for the wife.