VMware Fusion 12 Announced With Support for macOS Big Sur, eGPUs, and More

[A1MB1G]

Another option is to buy an inexpensive winboxen and remote desktop to it.

Oh I like this idea. That’s a great backup option in case the inevitable does happen and we can’t run intel based Windows in a VM on arm macs. Thanks!

 

[jlc1978]

Oh I like this idea. That’s a great backup option in case the inevitable does happen and we can’t run intel based Windows in a VM on arm macs. Thanks!

Glad to help. The plus side is all you need is a spot to leave it plugged in, no monitor keyboard/mouse; so you can set it uop with whatever you already have and just reconnect if you need to troubleshoot and can't remote in. Unless you need the latest machine it's a great way to repurpose an old box or laptop.

If the data can be stored offsite, a good encrypted cloud backup will keep your data safe and accessible should the machine go down. I use ARQ to encrypt and my 1TB Office 365 cloud for storage.

Add a good UPS for the occassional power outages to kee p it powered up and your good to go. A laptop wouldn't even need that if it's battery is still good; unless you want to be extra sure.

 

[A1MB1G]

Glad to help. The plus side is all you need is a spot to leave it plugged in, no monitor keyboard/mouse; so you can set it uop with whatever you already have and just reconnect if you need to troubleshoot and can't remote in. Unless you need the latest machine it's a great way to repurpose an old box or laptop.

If the data can be stored offsite, a good encrypted cloud backup will keep your data safe and accessible should the machine go down. I use ARQ to encrypt and my 1TB Office 365 cloud for storage.

Add a good UPS for the occassional power outages to kee p it powered up and your good to go. A laptop wouldn't even need that if it's battery is still good; unless you want to be extra sure.

That's awesome, thanks for making this suggestion - not sure why I didn't think of it lol. I'll definitely keep this in mind should VM technology not allow intel based windows to run on MacOS ARM.

 

[A1MB1G]

So, been using VMWare Fusion for past few weeks and it's not been good. It's constantly crashing, slow downs occur randomly with freezing of my entire machine. Scrolling and window dragging performance is abysmal. It really doesn't compare to Parallels - will have to go back to Parallels and pay the annual subscription fee.

 

[nph]

Yeah, I have to agree it is way slower than Parallels and not as stable. I hope a few updates will fix it until my current subscription runs out for Parallel.

 

[linrey]

I'm sorry to read that. That was so handy on an Apple machine.

So much research to do, and choices to make. The M1 Macs are amazing and I hope both Parallels and VMWare step up and write some native code for them.

 

[Jwpyle3]

You can't virtualize x86 on ARM. Period. If Fusion is going to continue to be compatible with the x86 version of windows it will require some form of emulation/binary translation to do so.

This is not accurate. You can emulate x86 (32bit) on ARM, in fact this is what Microsoft does for older software on Windows 10 on ARM. Here is the link to Microsoft explaining details and how it works.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/uwp/porting/apps-on-arm

They are also working on bringing 64bit Intel processor apps to ARM, but this could be a year so so way. There was a mention of Microsoft selling the ARM based version like they do the Intel version.

 

[Rigby]

BTW, VMWare currently has a Black Friday sale (30% on new licenses of Fusion, 20% on upgrade licenses). Snagged a v12 upgrade for my Fusion Pro. Really useful for me that the license now also covers Workstation on Linux and Windows ...

 

[chrfr]

This is not accurate. You can emulate x86 (32bit) on ARM, in fact this is what Microsoft does for older software on Windows 10 on ARM. Here is the link to Microsoft explaining details and how it works.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/uwp/porting/apps-on-arm

They are also working on bringing 64bit Intel processor apps to ARM, but this could be a year so so way. There was a mention of Microsoft selling the ARM based version like they do the Intel version.

You’ve essentially repeated back what the poster said, but said it’s not accurate. It is exactly accurate to say that running x86 or x64 binaries on the Apple CPUs requires emulation, not virtualization.

 

[Malus120]

This is not accurate. You can emulate x86 (32bit) on ARM, in fact this is what Microsoft does for older software on Windows 10 on ARM. Here is the link to Microsoft explaining details and how it works.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/uwp/porting/apps-on-arm

They are also working on bringing 64bit Intel processor apps to ARM, but this could be a year so so way. There was a mention of Microsoft selling the ARM based version like they do the Intel version.

I'm sorry did you read what I wrote? Because you say I'm "not accurate" and then go on to say almost the exact same thing I did which is that you can't VIRTUALIZE x86 on ARM, but you could utilize emulation/binary translation to achieve a similar result.

I don't want to seem (too) rude but do you understand the difference between virtualization and emulation? Because they're not the same thing. Also why has this thread been necroed?

 

[SteveW928]

I'm sorry did you read what I wrote? Because you say I'm "not accurate" and then go on to say almost the exact same thing I did which is that you can't VIRTUALIZE x86 on ARM, but you could utilize emulation/binary translation to achieve a similar result.

I don't want to seem (too) rude but do you understand the difference between virtualization and emulation? Because they're not the same thing. Also why has this thread been necroed?

I think a lot of people don't actually understand the difference, or that there is a difference.