It's not better than anything. The nicest thing I can say about it, I wish it worked, the idea is good.
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VMware Fusion 13 Now Available With Native Support for Apple Silicon Macs
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Don't pay for the non-free version: I was so frustrated by the blank page that I went ahead and bought the Player version, but I didn't receive any license key nor confirmation email. They took my money just fine. though.
Glad it is not just me running into this problem.
Since it is weekend it will take a few days to get this resolved.
First impression of the final version of the Fusion 13 Player is fairly positive. Bit difficult to find ARM versions. So, had to install Ubuntu 22.10 server and then install the desktop stuff manually.
Well the idea is that is can be great due to sheer horsepower of the Apple CPU and GPU combo. Nobody is going to be telling if it's running 90% the speed of natively.
I’m a Microsoft Teams collaboration engineer, and I use Windows on the M1 Pro MacBook Pro with parallels to run Windows, which I need for certain things like powershell environment. It works great. No issues whatsoever. Those who speak of limitations of Windows for ARM under Parallels really have no clue what they are talking about. Licensing is another issue altogether, which I choose not to worry about. The company has plenty of Windows licenses to justify me running an unlicensed version because I prefer working on a Mac.
Parallels makes it amazingly easy to install Windows for ARM. All you have to do is choose Windows, and it does the rest. You don’t have to even download it. It does everything for you. It does the same with Ubuntu with desktop environment, which doesn’t even exist for ARM (had to be built manually from Ubuntu server for ARM). However, Parallels grabs it somewhere (maybe their own build) and seamlessly installs it, including all the drivers to run in virtualization (tools). It’s one of the best commercial software packages, which is totally worth its price.
Fusion on M1 is a joke. It’s a nice way to spend quality time installing software and then manually patching the drivers (tools) adding desktop environment to Linux, and figuring where to get additional drivers for the correct resolution, etc. If you need to do the actual work, Parallels will get you up and running in less than 15 minutes with either Windows or several Linux distro, including the time to download the binary complete the installation, and install Parallels Tools (drivers).
Parallels makes it amazingly easy to install Windows for ARM. All you have to do is choose Windows, and it does the rest. You don’t have to even download it. It does everything for you. It does the same with Ubuntu with desktop environment, which doesn’t even exist for ARM (had to be built manually from Ubuntu server for ARM). However, Parallels grabs it somewhere (maybe their own build) and seamlessly installs it, including all the drivers to run in virtualization (tools). It’s one of the best commercial software packages, which is totally worth its price.
Fusion on M1 is a joke. It’s a nice way to spend quality time installing software and then manually patching the drivers (tools) adding desktop environment to Linux, and figuring where to get additional drivers for the correct resolution, etc. If you need to do the actual work, Parallels will get you up and running in less than 15 minutes with either Windows or several Linux distro, including the time to download the binary complete the installation, and install Parallels Tools (drivers).
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90% isn't going to happen. Even using virtualization on the fastest Intel CPU With a good GPU (which is faster than the M1), isn't going to be a good experience for games either. That's just not what virtualization does well, or even adequately. I have used virtualization for what I do for many years, I have a lot of experience with it.
Thanks for the tips. I needed to install a program in my laptop. As it's not possible to install same program two times(it can't run two different accounts) , I needed a VM to run it. UTM is great. I spent a lot of time to figure out installing Windows and later I thought, why not install MacOs? It was much easier to do that. Only trouble I had was sharing a drive in my native OS to the virtual. I use google drive at the moment for it. As my need of running this program only a couple of times per month, UTM is just fine. Thanks once again.I can highly recommend everyone checking out UTM
It's free, and really (REALLY) better than any other commercial VM client (both for running any macOS and any Windows version).
Fair point. I used VMWare for years, not knowing that remoting in to a dedicated PC was so easy and much more responsive.There are uses for both virtual and real, that's why I use both.
Thanks for the link - but it appears to only explain the differences between Player and Pro. My question concerned if there was a difference in the functionality between the free Player and the paid (commercial) version of Player.Yes.
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Something is wong with the setup then. I've had VMWare Fusion for years and haven't had stuttering with scrolling. Maybe times it seemed slow with something, but nothing like that. Currently on a '17 MBP 16 GB and tend to run VMWare with Win10 among my many other programs being open.
You'll need an Intel Mac to run High Sierra in Parallels. If you have an AS Mac, Parallels won't run Mac OS's prior to Monterey, if I'm not mistaken. Why High Sierra?
It was a fresh install with guest additions installed properly…
Perhaps it’s a matter of GPU type. A 17 inch MBP would be Nvidia based, right? Maybe an older version of macOS? Curious if OpenGL deprecation isn’t reflected the same way with your hardware. I know (at least when I tried it) that VMware 12 doesn’t support Metal. Parallels on the other hand does along with proper DirectX support.
When Googling around for solutions, it seemed like my issues were pretty widespread.
Oh, sorry. In that case, no, there’s no difference. The free version is only licensed for personal use. Businesses would need to pay to use Player.
Apple’s Virtualization.framework has <2% overhead. CPU-heavy code runs a little over 1% slower than native.
That said, I/O is a lot slower for now.
This makes complete sense. Thank you, I'll stop bashing my head against their blank page now.It is most likely only glitch with new version registration - I guess it will be fixed early next week. It happened in the past too. Big organization issue - some department did not do their job yet
Blank page problem here too. I guess it's everyone.
Not only that, but the entire website is a POS. I'm currently using v12 (player), and when I tried to download v13, it asked me to register. I tried to register, and it said I was already registered and to log in... which I did, but then it would only let me download v12 download. Went around in circles. Various "help" links would take me to unrelated pages. Finally somehow v13 appeared as a download option.
Just try going to their home page and then even finding the Fusion product page (I had to google to find a direct link). From the website, you wouldn't even know they sell software. It seems to be one of those companies that feels if you need to ask, they don't want you as a customer.
Not only that, but the entire website is a POS. I'm currently using v12 (player), and when I tried to download v13, it asked me to register. I tried to register, and it said I was already registered and to log in... which I did, but then it would only let me download v12 download. Went around in circles. Various "help" links would take me to unrelated pages. Finally somehow v13 appeared as a download option.
Just try going to their home page and then even finding the Fusion product page (I had to google to find a direct link). From the website, you wouldn't even know they sell software. It seems to be one of those companies that feels if you need to ask, they don't want you as a customer.
You need to worry about much more than the framework itself. Context changes are killers, especially when you have more than one OS running at the same time. No good way to optimize that.
It's always a problem.
Virtualization works great for a lot of things. I use it mainly for testing, isolation, and utility, but I wouldn't even use it to play chess (maybe command line chess would be okay, I just can't stand jerky video) not to mention something that's heavy graphics.
I didn't have that much trouble with it, but I agree, it could be organized better. I downloaded the Fusion Pro eval within a couple minutes, but I already had an account.
Not really. You only purchase the current version. You are still buying the next version.
[Answering own question] - Nope. Still doesn't work - yet UTM and Multipass fixed the 22.04.1 problem ages ago.
Downloading the Fusion Pro 30 day trial works fine. As far as I can tell there's only the one Fusion download - when you run it you get the option of entering a license key or starting the 30 day Pro trial, with links to "Buy Fusion Pro" or "Get a free Personal license for Player" (or words to that effect).
Trying to get the "Free personal license" for Fusion Player just leads to a blank page. So if you're just curious you might as well download Fusion Pro and start the 30 day trial (which works) and hope the fix the free license bit. Evaluating it took me a whole 30 seconds, not 30 days (see above).
I run an old version of AutoCad (release 14) on Windows Vista thru VMware on my intel macbook pro. Would I be able to do the same on an Apple silicon MacBook Pro with Windows 11 arm and VMware 13?
Showed up in macupdater app so downloading wasn’t a problem showing link but then got stuck at the blank page and came to here to see what was up with it hopefully they sort the website apart from that actually program seems to be working fine on the trail