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"Access virtual machines hosted on VMware vSphere, ESXi or Workstation"

This makes it an essential upgrade even if it was the only new feature! And as a professional product, most people will have been upgrading each year anyway.

It also looks like version 6 isn't supported on Yosemite...


I'm running Fusion 6 and yosemite with win 7 and KALI Linux and it runs like a champ!

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Will Fusion 6 still run on Yosemite ?


Yes. Runs great on my '14 rMBP!
 
I ditched Parallels for VMFusion, found the latter much better for real time usage.

However I only run one Windows program which I need for my accounts, Quicken 2004, the last UK one produced, and it just needs a simple swipe to switch between the two OS's.

tut

I've never used VMFusion and only became a Mac user 2.5 years ago after 30 years in the PC world. Since the Mac version of Quicken isn't nearly as advanced as the Windows version, I wanted the ability to run Windows 7 for Quicken on my iMac. I've used Parallels version 8, 9 & 10 and they've improved with each version. I would rate their tech support as 10/10 and couldn't recommend them more highly.
 
Is there any advantage to running Windows in bootcamp over Parallels/Fusion?

Last week I tried to update the firmware on my Sony camera in Parallels (the Mac version of the firmware updater app was released a few days after the Windows version).

I tried on two different Macs, Windows 7 and Windows 8.1....in all of them the updater crashed.

Since I have not seen anyone report any problem with the Windows updater running on a Windows machine, I have to assume that it was something to do with Parallels. Of course Bootcamp might have flunked it too but BC is one step nearer to being pure Windows.
 
It's there plain as day at the bottom of that page:

"Upgrade from Parallels and Save
If you are using Parallels Desktop for Mac, you can upgrade to VMware Fusion 7 and save!
Upgrade Now"

That link then points to this page:

http://store.vmware.com/validateparallels

There definitely isn't anything on that page. Actually that link automatically redirects me to http://store.vmware.com/store/vmwde/en_GB/home

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The same thing happened with Vista, albeit for somewhat different reasons. Most people stayed with XP until Win7 became available, because Vista was such a fail for the user.

People threw their toys out of the pram with Vista over UAC, and actually it was a good idea. Win7 is based on Vista, where the ground work was done.

I see the same thing with Win8, people not willing to move on and lose their Start button. I can see why Microsoft made the move to try and steal a march on their competitors in they way future operating systems will evolve, unfortunately they underestimated the inertia of the market.
 
I purchased VMWare Fusion 6 less than a week ago for over $60 AUS.

Today I discover they release a version 7, and offer an upgrade for almost the same expense as the original purchase price despite me only having the program 6 days, and using it 2 times.

To buy it outright is only $10 more.

Absolute joke, and I will be pulling my corporate order for the Health Department over 11,000 licenses as soon as I get to work tomorrow morning unless they rectify this issue immediately.

They have clearly been deceptive, and customer service is non-existent.

Over reaction much?

1. I'm pretty sure VMware has a free upgrade path if you purchased it recently. I'm surprised somebody in charge of such an important Health Department order is not aware of this. Are the lunatics in charge of the asylum?

2. You're either trolling (which is not good) or you believe what you say. If it's the latter you should be fired for compromising what is undoubtedly an important software roll out over something so petty and irrelevant to the project. Don't let the door hit your backside on the way out.

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Somebody, pleeeeeeeease stop me from laughing. I did not laughed so hard in the last 20 years. DUDE, i am using MacOS, Linux and Windows since '90's. There is NOTHING 'rock solid' on that piece of junk you call operating system. If you try to keep it online without anti-virus protection will become virused beyond usage within minutes....

And so on, I'm not going to repeat it all here

Ugh. Wall of text. Your return key is on the right hand side of your keyboard.
 
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It's not what it sounds like. It basically means you can use the Integrated or nVidia depending on your usage like running a 3D or running office. Except, regardless, its still a emulated video card in the VM.

Thank you for the screenshot. So in Mavericks it looks like VMWare 6? I hate when apps take on Yosemite's aesthetics when running in Mavericks.
 
I wonder if education users who obtained Fusion though OnTheHub if they can upgrade or not. Education users get a 1 year licence for Fusion 6. I'm wondering if an education user could pay the regular upgrade cost and get a non expiring licence of Fusion 7.
 
My information is correct. I didn't say it wouldn't run, I said it wasn't supported.

http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/compare.html

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I almost see that as a marketing tactic. When Yosemite was first released on Beta Fusion did not work at all. There were some issues deep down that had to specifically be fixed for Yosemite to work. So obviously they had some intent to support it by releasing an update that fixed the problem. Once that update was released and I was able to confirm it was operational, I finally updated to the beta. Been running it ever since with no issues.
 
Fusion 7 Pro is definitely a substantial upgrade for ESXi/vSphere users.

I am actually blown away with all the features of the Pro version. It has a tight integration. You can remotely run VMs, you can now deploy OVFs built in. You can provision, stop, start, suspend and manage devices all within Fusion Pro.
Before, if you want to work with ESXi, you had to run a Windows VM inside Fusion with the ESXi client. Now, I'd say 85% of all those features are done in Fusion.

More importantly, you can run and manage VMs remotely. This saves a bunch of resources from my Macbook. Meaning, I can run VMs remotely off my 8 core 32GB Wintel Boxes instead of locally on my Macbook. Slick. Real slick.
Retina support is also better. Oveall, a real improvement compared to version 5 to 6.

Here is a screen shot of drag-n-dropping a local VM into vSphere. One step. Before, I had to run a command line tool OVF to export. Then copy it to Windows XP VM. Then deploy it inside XP.

OVF%2Bdeploy.png


I have a little write-up for Mac developers who use ESXi and Fusion: http://fortysomethinggeek.blogspot.com/2014/09/vmware-fusion-7-pro-must-have-upgrade.html

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My information is correct. I didn't say it wouldn't run, I said it wasn't supported.

http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/compare.html

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Fusion 6.0.4 runs Yosemite as a guest and host. In fact, I was able to run a Yosemite guest inside Fusion 6. However, 7 may have more improvements.
 
I really don't see the point of the non-Pro VMware Fusion 7. There's barely any changes! Even Parallels 9->10 is a bigger upgrade.

It... doesn't even support Dark Mode.
 
They should add PPC emulation in the Mac version so you could run older Mac OS's and software.
 
Another alternative

I was very fortunate to find that the Windows based apps that I needed to use ran on Crossover. So I don't have to boot up Windows at all to do the work I need those apps for.
I appreciate that one does need to be lucky in this regard!
 
Care to explain please. There are numerous threads around the net that claim otherwise, and I have version 5 and was waiting for this to upgrade to run Yosemite.

My work calls for 2 programs in a widows environment, so I have been running VM fusion for more years than I remember.

So, if your statement is indeed correct, this would save a lot of people $ from upgrading. However, even VMware's forums state that 6 is not compatible.

I have to upgrade regardless, as I am still on 5 currently, I skipped last years update.


It will most definitely work! The reports saying otherwise were most likely before the Fusion 6.0.4 update which seems to have fixed any compatibility issues it had with Yosemite. I had it running great on two machines. I've since switched to Fusion 7 because it was free but it runs fine on Fusion 6.

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Over reaction much?

1. I'm pretty sure VMware has a free upgrade path if you purchased it recently. I'm surprised somebody in charge of such an important Health Department order is not aware of this. Are the lunatics in charge of the asylum?

2. You're either trolling (which is not good) or you believe what you say. If it's the latter you should be fired for compromising what is undoubtedly an important software roll out over something so petty and irrelevant to the project. Don't let the door hit your backside on the way out.

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Ugh. Wall of text. Your return key is on the right hand side of your keyboard.


Not to mention if you bought Fusion 6 between Aug 1 and Sept 30 you can upgrade to 7 for free!
 
Finally got an upgrade key

It took 4 emails, and going via 3 supervisor hierarchies to eventually get them to agree to provide me with a key for version 7.

They were telling me I purchased it 3/27/14 (US date format), but I was telling them I purchased it 27/8/14 (Australian date format)

I can only assume they made a type with the 3, as that would signify March, but It was purchased in August.

I don't know if it was a simple mistake, or a deliberate attempt to not honour a free upgrade.

I believe the threat of re-tendering 21000 desktop and 3100 laptop licenses for the Department of Health probably helped, saying if they can't even support 1 person, how can they support a tertiary hospital with 12000 staff.
 
They should add PPC emulation in the Mac version so you could run older Mac OS's and software.

The only version that allowed this was VMware Fusion 4.1.0 There was a code change that allowed (not supported) the install of Leopard and Snow Leopard (non-Server versions). Only 10.6 Server is supported as a VM in Fusion 6.

I would love to be able to have a Snow Leopard VM install option for support of Rosetta (which supports PPC emulation)
 
Neat... A new product ...

If i ever upgrade to Yosemite, i'll get this.

But first, i gotta over-come the "issues" or changes first of 10.10.

I don't even know how u would even support Rosetta (even in emulation) for a virtual OS, Apple doesn't even support for physical hardware anymore.


How can you add stuff that Apple doesn't physically have ? If Apple gave Fusion the rights then ya.

If Apple could somehow push an update, to made Rosetta work on Intel, then maybe that could be a way through.
 
I don't even know how u would even support Rosetta (even in emulation) for a virtual OS, Apple doesn't even support for physical hardware anymore.


How can you add stuff that Apple doesn't physically have ? If Apple gave Fusion the rights then ya.

If Apple could somehow push an update, to made Rosetta work on Intel, then maybe that could be a way through.

Rosetta was never dependent on any specific hardware features, aside from there being an Intel CPU. It's just software emulation.
10.6.x will virtualize the same as it has on any other version of OS X.
 
The only version that allowed this was VMware Fusion 4.1.0 There was a code change that allowed (not supported) the install of Leopard and Snow Leopard (non-Server versions). Only 10.6 Server is supported as a VM in Fusion 6.

I would love to be able to have a Snow Leopard VM install option for support of Rosetta (which supports PPC emulation)

Snow Leopard Server can be purchased directly from Apple over the phone for ~$20.00

Rosetta works so PPC apps will work but VMWare's drivers for sounds/grx are terrible (nearly non existent) so games or multimedia stuff will be very limited.
 
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Snow Leopard Server can be purchased directly from Apple over the phone for ~$20.00

Rosetta works so PPC apps will work but VMWare's drivers for sounds/grx are terrible (nearly non existent) so games or multimedia stuff will be very limited.

I didn't know this. Thank you for the tip.
 
My information is correct. I didn't say it wouldn't run, I said it wasn't supported.
Neither did I. I just pointed out your information regarding Fusion 6 not supporting Yosemite as host/guest OS was incorrect because it does. You are just falling for VMware marketing talk on their product page. Luckily the technicians on their own forums tell a different story (the one that both 6 and 7 support Yosemite as guest and host OS) which being backed up by users. There are some other features on that page they claim as 7 only which are already in 6. They are exaggerating it because it's usually nothing more but improved support (in this case it is caused by hw version 11). That's how their marketing department has been working in the last 5 years (a lot of people are very annoyed by it; VMware is going Parallels).

Btw, this doesn't mean that Fusion supports specific OS X features such as the new notification centre in Yosemite because they don't. It'll do the exact same things and support the same things in both 10.7, 10.8, 10.9 and 10.10. By support they mean that it'll run and it is optimized. It is quite meaningless as you can see.

Fusion 7 Pro is definitely a substantial upgrade for ESXi/vSphere users.
Not if you are using the new ESXi/vSphere beta (hint hint hint). The only improvement you gain with 7 is the import from/export to ESXi/vSphere but this is the greatest feature in 7 anyway :cool:

Before, if you want to work with ESXi, you had to run a Windows VM inside Fusion with the ESXi client. Now, I'd say 85% of all those features are done in Fusion.
That percentage is a personal one. It highly depends on what features you use most. What you can do in Fusion Pro and Workstation are some common management you do with an already existing vm. You can't create new ones (unless you export it within Fusion) nor can you shutdown a vm (you can only do this in the guest OS; if they rely on the power button you need the vSphere client). You can only play/suspend a vm, change some of the settings and open the console. That's all. Any ESXi management requires the use of the vSphere Client/vCenter. If you want a vm on the road you still need to create one in Fusion but at least you can import an existing one from your ESXi server (very useful if you need to do some local testing/demoing).

Being able to import/export is the greatest feature. It is just so easy, you only have to drag and drop (the vm does have to be powered down).
 
There are clearly advantages to both bootcamp and VM..

That's why we can run our bootcamp partitions in VM too. It's really the best of both worlds. Boot into Bootcamp for high performance games and 3D.. Load up the same partition in a VM for everything else.


I run my bootcamp partition from Parallels. Does it really give a better performance? I thought it would be the same
 
I am also running VM6.0.4 under Yosemite.

I installed Beta2 on a USB3 stick so that I could try it out, and all seems fine though not seeing any great difference for my useage. It obviously runs a bit slower as opposed to the SSD, but it only takes a minute to reboot back to Mavericks.

tut
 
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