VMware Launches Fusion 8 and Fusion 8 Pro With Windows 10, OS X El Capitan and Cortana Support

[chucker23n1]

Has it occurred to you that you don't need to reply if you don't have an issue with it?

Personally, I try not to use Windows for anything BUT gaming if I can help it.

It's just that you wrote this 600-word rant about how DirectX 10 isn't all that new and many games would need something newer. There are other applications — including just plain ol' accelerating the GUI — for which DirectX 10 support is a useful improvement.

 

[tob!]

What file does one need to mount as a CD to get El Cap to install with Fusion 8? I tried the InstallESD.dmg but it does not seem to work. I can't find any info on this.

 

[deviant]

I paid $70 to upgrade to version 7 less than a year ago, and paid to upgrade to version 6 less than 6 months before that. Now they want $49 for me to upgrade to version 8 and are offering... very minor improvements and (hopefully) bug fixes to the issues that are driving me nuts in 7.

Looks like I have to pay but I'm extremely unhappy. Looks like VMWare wants to become the next Adobe. Make a good product, stop innovating, and start shamelessly milking your customers for every penny you can.

you have 3 options: buy, steal, not use. which are you gonna choose? hit me up

 

[S.B.G]

What file does one need to mount as a CD to get El Cap to install with Fusion 8? I tried the InstallESD.dmg but it does not seem to work. I can't find any info on this.

One way is to create a bootable USB, mount it and point Fusion to that.

Format an 8 GB USB drive (higher capacity USB 3 drive will make the process much faster) which should be called Untitled and formatted as Mac OS Extended (Journaled). The installer should be called Install OS X El Capitan Public Beta.app and should be in your Applications folder.
Run this in terminal and wait about 20 minutes:

sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ El\ Capitan\ Public\ Beta.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ El\ Capitan\ Public\ Beta.app --nointeraction

 

[NazgulRR]

Exactly. You can't do any of that.
You need to install Windows 8.1 in your desired virtualization setup, and upgrade to Windows 10 thenceforth. As I said, they provide a generic key; in fact, what happens in the upgrade is that Windows registers your machine's hardware in their servers during the upgrade, nothing else. So if you change the VM, you're changing the hardware, thus rendering your Windows copy useless.
It just happened to me by the way. I did exactly what you described and ended up getting a new key.

Interesting. Even with the original Win 8.1 key used for the upgrade being retail version of the key? I could move my Win 8.1 key around different PCs (as long as I first deactivated it on the PC I was moving it from), so if I update that Win 8.1 key to Win 10, will I not be able to move it between different PCs in the same way?

 

[Guy Clark]

Predictably Parallels and VMWare Fusion are going with upgrades in line with the latest release of OS X amounting in more cost to the user.
Once the likes of VirtualBox is able to offer the same level of integration the better it will be for all and the above will need to rethink their business strategies to retain their consumer base.

 

[cheesyappleuser]

Interesting. Even with the original Win 8.1 key used for the upgrade being retail version of the key? I could move my Win 8.1 key around different PCs (as long as I first deactivated it on the PC I was moving it from), so if I update that Win 8.1 key to Win 10, will I not be able to move it between different PCs in the same way?

Exactly.

 

[chrfr]

What file does one need to mount as a CD to get El Cap to install with Fusion 8? I tried the InstallESD.dmg but it does not seem to work. I can't find any info on this.

Point it to the full installer application, not the dmg, same as every other version of OS X including and after 10.7.

 

[guylikedavid]

I had a clean install of Win10 using Fusion 7, I've upgraded to Fusion 8 but DirectX is still showing version 9 and OpenGL still showing version 2.1 and I really need the OpenGL 3.3 support for my autodesk software. I've installed the VM Tools again a few times and it still hasn't changed.

Has anyone else had this issue and/or knows how to resolve it. I raised a support ticket with VMWare but they haven't gotten back to me.

 

[NazgulRR]

Exactly.

I am seeing conflicting reports on this.

It didn't work in your case and http://www.howtogeek.com/226510/how...10-license-after-changing-your-pc’s-hardware/ agrees with you too.

However, the official Microsoft FAQ says otherwise:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...ndows-10/5c0b9368-a9e8-4238-b1e4-45f4b7ed2fb9
(Search for 'retail' on the page to bring up the relevant question)

I am confused! Can't really try it out as I got one Macbook only now.

 

[MaciekP]

I had a clean install of Win10 using Fusion 7, I've upgraded to Fusion 8 but DirectX is still showing version 9 and OpenGL still showing version 2.1 and I really need the OpenGL 3.3 support for my autodesk software. I've installed the VM Tools again a few times and it still hasn't changed.

Has anyone else had this issue and/or knows how to resolve it. I raised a support ticket with VMWare but they haven't gotten back to me.

You have to change the hardware version to 12 (settings, compatibility, advanced options).
If you still don't have it, you may have the older GPU. For Intel integrated GPU it shouldn't be older than HD4000 I (2012?).

http://pubs.vmware.com/fusion-8/topic/com.vmware.ICbase/PDF/fusion-8-user-guide.pdf

"3D accelerated video with DirectX 10 with OpenGL 3.3 for Windows Vista and later as the guest OS. DirectX 10 requires OSX 10.10 or later on the host and hardware version 12 and later. DirectX 10 also requires a GPU version of Intel HD4000 or later, Nvidia GeForce 650M or later, or AMD Radeon HD 5750 or later."

 

[MacBH928]

Who is "they"?

People I discussed this topic with before, articles I have read, videos I have seen on YouTube

 

[solrunner]

you have 3 options: buy, steal, not use. which are you gonna choose? hit me up

I purchased VMware 7 on July 13, 2015. I emailed them to ask if I could get a discount on upgrade to 8 since I just bought 7 at the full retail price ($80). They said anyone who purchased 7 after July 29 would get 8 for free. Since I was a little before that they gave me 50% off, so just $25 to upgrade. Not bad!

Email their customer service and maybe they will help you out.

 

[Traverse]

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[SaxPlayer]

I've been a Parallels Desktop user since it first came out and have also been on their beta programme for the last few versions. I've always found it fine, although the beta of Parallels 11 had lots of problems with Windows 10 all of which I reported at the time. After the beta finished I went back to Parallels 10 and the problems are happening there too. I raised tickets and Parallels replied to say that there is no ETA for fixes for these issues. Meanwhile, Windows XP is fine in 10 (and was in 11). I didn't try Ubuntu in version 11.

For the record, problems are with graphics drivers, network connectivity and the VM just bombing out with a message
The virtual machine Microsoft Windows 10 was restarted. The virtual machine processor was reset by the operating system (screenshot attached) after which I have to quit Parallels and kill Windows 10 in Activity Monitor.

Yikes!

I've downloaded a trial of VMWare Fusion 8 and migrated my Parallels Windows 10 VM. It's only been running for a few hours but so far, so good - Parallels would've experienced one of the problems by now.

I'll keep going for the 30 day trial and if VMWare behaves itself then I'll be switching to that taking advantage of the 40% discount they offer Parallels users.

I'll update this comment if anything changes.

 

[arkmannj]

The one thing I wish VMWare would add in an update is proper drivers (mostly audio & video) that work with Snow Leopard (Server). There's some good old classic games I'd love to play and need Rosetta.
has anyone seen any improvement in this area?

 

[dyn]

What file does one need to mount as a CD to get El Cap to install with Fusion 8? I tried the InstallESD.dmg but it does not seem to work. I can't find any info on this.

Have you tried using the installer for El Capitan? Thus the "Install OS X El Capitan" one in your /Applications. Fusion will automatically recognise that it is an OS X installation image and use it.

Predictably Parallels and VMWare Fusion are going with upgrades in line with the latest release of OS X amounting in more cost to the user.
Once the likes of VirtualBox is able to offer the same level of integration the better it will be for all and the above will need to rethink their business strategies to retain their consumer base.

Indeed. Sadly their development speeds is rather low so we might so it somewhere after 10 to 15 years from now.

I had a clean install of Win10 using Fusion 7, I've upgraded to Fusion 8 but DirectX is still showing version 9 and OpenGL still showing version 2.1 and I really need the OpenGL 3.3 support for my autodesk software. I've installed the VM Tools again a few times and it still hasn't changed.

That's probably because you didn't follow the official upgrade instructions (don't worry, almost nobody does, it usually works out fine). It requires you to uninstall the VMware Tools and shutdown the VM. After that you can do the upgrade, start the VM and install the VMware Tools. Luckily these things are usually very easy to resolve by uninstalling VMware Tools, rebooting the VM and reinstalling the VMware Tools.

In case of new features like DirectX 10/OpenGL 3.3 and the faster suspend/resume for encrypted VMs you also need to upgrade the VM to the newest hardware version (open the VM settings, go to Compatibility and hit the "Upgrade" button). After you've done that proceed with the installation of the VMware Tools (you may have to reboot the VM first though, it will tell you if you need to do that).

 

[organic bond]

Parallels has a terrible customer support.

 

[Skoal]

In other words, just bug fixes really.

Not really bug fixes if they're adding support for features that hardly existed prior.

I already have Fusion 7 running Win10 and it seems to work fine. I guess VMWare needs a steady stream of income like everyone else....

Some folks require things you don't.

Oh joy, that's the annual VMWare tax to pay.

Roll up, roll up, roll up, get your free operating system here. And VMWare will then take your money for a minimal updates.

Lol free? Nothing is free!

 

[cube]

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[dyn]

If they are going to use the same price for the Pro version as for Workstation then just give us Workstation. They should have done that in the first place (Workstation + Player on Win, Lin and OSX).

@Skoal: from a technical point of view there is really not that much difference between 7 and 8. If you don't have Fusion then get 8, if you have 7, skip this one. The changes are most definitely not worth the very heavy price tag (upgrade prices are not that much different from the prices for full versions of 7). 7 will run fine on the iMac 5K and it will run both Windows 10 and El Capitan. Unity is just as much a problem in Fusion 8 as in previous versions and they even removed support for it for Linux!

IPv6 can be circumvented by creating your own network and use IPv6 on that one. The following blog post is from 2009 (!) and describes how to do it:
Setting up an IPv6 Test Environment under Mac OS X using VMware Fusion. A simple VM running something like pfSense or similar on its own network to provide the networking service is all you need.

When running something like Linux or FreeBSD you are better off using the open-vm-tools anyway since those have better support for the operating system than the supplied VMware Tools. They are more robust with kernel updates and they are much easier to maintain since you update them via the same way as every other piece of software instead of having to use the install iso and do a manual install of the VMware Tools.

The only real thing to upgrade for are DirectX 10 and OpenGL 3.3. If you must use apps that require either of these using Boot Camp is a much better idea due to a much better performance and probably much better support of both DirectX and OpenGL. Not every feature is supported in Fusion and Parallels, the most features of both DirectX and OpenGL are supported with native drivers in Windows thus requiring Boot Camp.

 

[ojfl]

I'm using Fusion 7 and the price for the update (rather minor update, really) is ridiculous. If it was 10 or 20 bucks, I'd think about it, but 50 bucks (more than half of the original price) is just a joke. Parallels seems to have the exact same pricing (which is kind of fishy).

Parallels is even worse. It seems you have to pay for an upgrade with less functionality.

 

[satcomer]

Virtual Box?

VirtualBox

 

[Keirasplace]

I upgraded my Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 in VMware Fusion 7 and it worked just fine (and no activation issues either).

In theory, I think you can do it if its a retail copy of windows 8 (license not linked to computer). But, don't quote me on this as I haven't tried it.

 

[cube]

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