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Hahaha, exactly.

If I recall, at the time I made my initial purchase, Parallels had _just_ taken the lead feature-wise, I did a trial install, it worked perfectly, the price was the same (both had some kind of special offer). That was it, I was committed to Parallels. That being said, I do occasionally review the features, performance, pricing, etc., between the two, and I just haven't seen a reason to switch since Parallels continues to run extremely well for me.

In terms of ongoing cost, I recently wrote this in another thread:

I skip every other version of PD (went from PD8 to PD10) as the version released for the current OSX works for the next major release. When I do update, I usually score a discounted version for $39 (there's about an offer a week), or an upgrade/full in a bundle that effectively costs $30-35.

So at least for me, for the last few years, I've spent about $40/2-years on PD after my initial purchase (which itself was discounted).

Side note: We find the Wii-U is the most fun :D





At one point there was a documented cap, but it seems like a bit of a crap shoot whether or not it got enforced (and it seemed to vary based on location). It seems like I recall them loosening up the consumer service limits[?]

We're on Biz Class so no cap (specifically documented as part of the Biz Services agreement).


Its enforced where I live at 300GB, its terrible. I hope everyone else doesn't have to deal with it.
 
Interesting that the article was updated in August 2015 but OS X Yosemite 10.10 is not mentioned. Mac OS X Mavericks 10.9 is the highest version. Wonder if Yosemite will work or if it's been intentionally left out.
I've been doing some more searching on the VMware website and texted one of my vendors who is in deep with VMware (and heading to VMworld next week too), and it appears that OS X can be installed on an IBM-compatible PC/server by using vSphere ESXi 6.0, from Mountain Lion through Yosemite.

Though, I don't see anything regarding the Apple EULA restrictions for requiring the vm host be Apple hardware, if the vm is OS X. This is especially odd, to me, since vSphere ESXi is a Windows-only application.

VMware Compatibility Guide

Installation Instructions for VMware ESXi 6.0
You install OS X 10.10 in a virtual machine using the installation media.

Prerequisites
Before you begin, verify that the following tasks are complete:
  • Read General Installation Instructions for All VMware Products.
  • You already have Install OS X Mountain Lion.app for any version of OS X 10.8 or later.
  • Ensure your physical system is an Apple-labeled computer. This is required to install or run OS X 10.8, OS X 10.9, or OS X 10.10 in a virtual machine.
  • Ensure you physical system can support an additional virtual machine with at least 2GB of RAM.
Installation Steps
  1. Create a new virtual machine and select the Apple Mac OS X 10.10 (64-bit) option.
  2. Use the virtual machine CD/DVD drive for installation.
  3. Connect the CD/DVD drive to a datastore image file, complete the following steps:
    1. Add Install OS X Mountain Lion.app to a datastore that the virtual machine can access.
    2. Set the CD/DVD drive to connect to the Install OS X Mountain Lion.app/Contents/SharedSupport/InstallESD.dmg image file.
  4. Power on the virtual machine.
  5. Select your language and click the right arrow.
  6. Select Disk Utility and click Continue.
  7. In the left hand pane, select the hard disk at the top of the list.
  8. Select the Erase tab.
  9. Click the Erase... button and click the confirming Erase button. Wait for the process to complete.
  10. Quit the Disk Utility application.
  11. Select Reinstall OS X and click Continue.
  12. Follow the prompts to complete the installation.
  13. Download OS X Yosemite.app in the virtual machine using the Mac App Store, or download it onto another Mac using the Mac App Store, and copy Install OS X Yosemite.app to the virtual machine.
  14. Execute Install OS X Yosemite.app in the virtual machine to update the operating system to OS X 10.10.
  15. Install VMware Tools.
 
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Do any of these apps (Parallels, Fusion or Virtual Box) allow you to upgrade an existing installation of Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 using the Microsoft upgrade process? Can anyone confirm from their own experience?

Fusion 7 has this bug with the display adapter that prevents a standard Windows 10 upgrade. The workaround is simple: Download the Media Creation Tool from Microsoft, run it, and choose Update this PC now. This will upgrade your system to Windows 10. Finally you need to uninstall and reinstall VMware Tools on your updated VM. That's it, the process is actually faster than the normal way, because you don't have to wait 2 weeks for Microsoft to start streaming the update to you.

I don't know if the bug is fixed in Fusion 8, but it's irrelevant, because the workaround is easy enough, and doesn't require you to buy anything.
 
Though, I don't see anything regarding the Apple EULA restrictions for requiring the vm host be Apple hardware, if the vm is OS X. This is especially odd, to me, since vSphere ESXi is a Windows-only application.
My understanding is that vSphere is more of an operating system. The purists might call it a hypervisor. I'm not really sure. But I do know that my machine that runs it at home boots VMware ESXi from a flash drive. Then my Windows server runs inside that. I'd love to try a few Mac OS VMs inside that.
 
Fusion 7 has this bug with the display adapter that prevents a standard Windows 10 upgrade. The workaround is simple: Download the Media Creation Tool from Microsoft, run it, and choose Update this PC now. This will upgrade your system to Windows 10. Finally you need to uninstall and reinstall VMware Tools on your updated VM. That's it, the process is actually faster than the normal way, because you don't have to wait 2 weeks for Microsoft to start streaming the update to you.

I don't know if the bug is fixed in Fusion 8, but it's irrelevant, because the workaround is easy enough, and doesn't require you to buy anything.
The easiest way I have found is to simply download the Win10 ISO and install from that. If you visit the Microsoft download page with a Mac browser, it will actually offer the ISO for download directly, no need for the installation tool. Then you can just mount the ISO in VMWare and run the update from there. Once you have run the update (which links the VM's hardware ID with the Windows license on Microsoft's activation servers), you can also do a clean install into the same VM using the ISO.
 
I really hate the fact that every time a new Windows OS comes out, VMWare charges me $50 to update just so I can use it. If I didn't have to use Windows programs for my work I wouldn't even bother.
You don't have to update right away (or even at all). Fusion 7 still works fine with the exception of Unity for Win10 guests.
 
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My understanding is that vSphere is more of an operating system. The purists might call it a hypervisor. I'm not really sure. But I do know that my machine that runs it at home boots VMware ESXi from a flash drive. Then my Windows server runs inside that. I'd love to try a few Mac OS VMs inside that.
Right, the ESXi part is an OS of its own, as I understand it, and it resides directly on hardware, just like Windows or OS X does. Then vSphere runs in Windows (a client machine like my office PC) and is linked to the EXSi host, where any/all vm's that are built reside and run from.

OS X would need to be loaded onto the ESXi host just the same as any Windows or Linux OS would. That's where the gray area comes in. Apple only allows OS X to run on Apple hardware and nothing else. Any ESXi hardware is not going to be Apple hardware and thus putting an OS X vm on it would be a violation of the EULA. However, VMware is obviously allowing people to load OS X onto the ESXi host. I'm not sure how that all works yet.

I've not tested it yet myself because I am still on version 5.5 of vSphere and I need to upgrade to v6.0. But they're having some stability issues with it and I don't want to move my server environment to it until some of the bugs are worked out. When I do get to 6.0, I already have a fresh ovf export of Yosemite, from Fusion 7 Pro, to import into vSphere 6.0.
 
Careful with the updates for Fusion 7, I'm sure one will come out that bricks it for El Cap.
 
My understanding is that vSphere is more of an operating system. The purists might call it a hypervisor. I'm not really sure.
ESXi is a hypervisor (basically a stripped-down OS with server virtualization support). vSphere is essentially an application suite for managing a whole cluster of virtualized servers and running an enterprise cloud on top of the cluster.
But I do know that my machine that runs it at home boots VMware ESXi from a flash drive. Then my Windows server runs inside that. I'd love to try a few Mac OS VMs inside that.
ESXi is technically capable of hosting OS X VMs, and so is Workstation. I'm not sure if vSphere enforces Apple's licensing restrictions like Workstation does, but you should be able to launch an OS X VM manually on ESXi (i.e. without using vSphere).
 
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I've been doing some more searching on the VMware website and texted one of my vendors who is in deep with VMware (and heading to VMworld next week too), and it appears that OS X can be installed on an IBM-compatible PC/server by using vSphere ESXi 6.0, from Mountain Lion through Yosemite.
Which is not correct. You can only install it when running a VMware product on a Mac because that is what the OS X software license allows. VMware, VirtualBox and Parallels all enforce this with their virtualisation software.

There are ways, and even software, that disable this lock (it remains to be seen if it is compatible with newer versions and even updates). After that you can install and run OS X vm's on non-Apple hardware but it is against the OS X license.

Though, I don't see anything regarding the Apple EULA restrictions for requiring the vm host be Apple hardware, if the vm is OS X. This is especially odd, to me, since vSphere ESXi is a Windows-only application.
Then you didn't look very hard. It's in the second chapter (2. Permitted License Uses and Restrictions.). The Yosemite EULA has this:

(iii) to install, use and run up to two (2) additional copies or instances of the Apple Software within virtual operating system environments on each Mac Computer you own or control that is already running the Apple Software, for purposes of: (a) software development; (b) testing during software development; (c) using OS X Server; or (d) personal, non-commercial use.

Previous OS X versions have similar clauses or even one that says you are not allowed to virtualise it (10.6, 10.5 client versions; only the server version were allowed to be virtualised).

So to summarise: you can either use ESXi or Fusion on a Mac to virtualise OS X legally. You cannot do so on anything that isn't an Apple computer without needing some hacks and breaking the license agreement (which is considered illegal in most countries).

My understanding is that vSphere is more of an operating system. The purists might call it a hypervisor.
It is neither. vSphere is more like a brand for a certain type of product. Part of it is the hypervisor which you can indeed see as an operating system (more specifically, an operating system aimed at doing nothing but virtualisation). The hypervisor is called ESXi or "vSphere Hypervisor". There are more products. Some of them are just a license upgrade that will enable more features in the hypervisor, others are bundles of the hypervisor plus some additional management software (things like vCenter).

The product naming is abysmal as it seems to be very good in confusion the living daylights out of people. You are definitely not the first one to be completely confused by it.

Careful with the updates for Fusion 7, I'm sure one will come out that bricks it for El Cap.
Going by previous experiences it is more likely that Fusion 7 will receive an update improving support for running on El Capitan. It remains to be seen if there will be any updates to 7 at all.

If we look at the change in pricing I'd say the latter is what will happen. They have gone the Parallels route and started milking both Fusion and Workstation. Upgrading to Workstation Pro 12 costs more than what I paid for a full license for Workstation 11. I did get that one with a discount of about 30%. It looks like the upgrade price for Workstation 12 is only a 25% discount of the full price of Workstation 11. My upgrade to Fusion Pro 7 was about 70 euro, the upgrade to Fusion Pro 8 is about 91 euro. I don't mind paying for software but so much for so little actual and useful changes is rather ridiculous. Especially if both Workstation 11 and Fusion Pro 7 are able to run the newly supported operating systems just fine.
 
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"compatibility with USB 3.0 and multiple monitors"

give us a reason NOT to upgrade But that's how they get ya right ?
 
Fusion Pro can manage my VMs on ESXi, using vSphere I guess. I don't use it for that as I have a Windows PC running vSphere. But maybe using Fusion Pro on the Mac to install a Mac OS VM onto an ESXi host would qualify?
 
Its against VMWare terms..

Only Windows products on ESXi,, no OS X VM's unless nativly supported by Fusion itself.
 
Which is not correct. You can only install it when running a VMware product on a Mac because that is what the OS X software license allows. VMware, VirtualBox and Parallels all enforce this with their virtualisation software.

That's what I've been saying all along, just confused on the ability of ESXi to host OS X as, from my limited knowledge, is that ESXi gets loaded on IBM-compatible hardware.

There are ways, and even software, that disable this lock (it remains to be seen if it is compatible with newer versions and even updates). After that you can install and run OS X vm's on non-Apple hardware but it is against the OS X license.

This is something I'm not advocating, nor have even looked into.

Then you didn't look very hard. It's in the second chapter (2. Permitted License Uses and Restrictions.). The Yosemite EULA has this:

Thanks, obviously I didn't see it when looking around.

Previous OS X versions have similar clauses or even one that says you are not allowed to virtualise it (10.6, 10.5 client versions; only the server version were allowed to be virtualised).

That I did see, regarding the server versions.

So to summarise: you can either use ESXi or Fusion on a Mac to virtualise OS X legally. You cannot do so on anything that isn't an Apple computer without needing some hacks and breaking the license agreement (which is considered illegal in most countries).
So, can ESXi be loaded on Apple hardware, and if so, how is it done? I'm interested to learn.
 
EXSi can be used in VMWare Pro on a mac yes, i do it all time in Yosemite (1x ESXi running version 5.5, another VM running Windows 2008 server with vSphere)


I believe u can install ESXi on bare metal in Apple hardware too, in new macs that use x64 intel.

download ESXi, create bootable disc (not sure if it can be run from usb) since its iso image. start Mac hold down Option to get to boot manager, and choose your drive.

Not done this myself since i use Fusion for this, but it should be the same result.
 
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Yes, it's possible, if you have vSphere 6.0.
vSphere doesn't run under Windows, it's its own operating system/hypervisor.
My understanding is that vSphere is more of an operating system. The purists might call it a hypervisor.
Correct. ESXi has nothing to do with Windows aside from the fact that ESXi can virtualize Windows.

So, can ESXi be loaded on Apple hardware, and if so, how is it done? I'm interested to learn.
Here's one combination for 2014 Minis:
http://www.virtuallyghetto.com/2014/10/esxi-support-for-2014-apple-mac-mini-71.html
ESXi will work fine on Mac Pro 5,1 (2010-2012) and newer, as well as 2012 Minis.
ESXi on Apple hardware can host OS X as a supported guest OS, as well as Windows, Linux, or BSD.
 
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