Find some sucker who wants to dump their Touareg TDI. If they take an offer for 5-10k under book, it's worth it. Tregs have 100k warranties on them.
Still looking for a cheap Golf TDI myself
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Still looking for a cheap Golf TDI myself
Unless forced to, my TDI will not be visiting a VW dealership anymore.
If forced to by the government, my VW will be in the shop every week since it would no longer be running right after they *fixed* it
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Wow
VW pulls the diesels from the 2016 line up.
http://www.cnet.com/news/volkswagen-pulls-diesels-from-2016-model-year-line-up/
VW pulls the diesels from the 2016 line up.
http://www.cnet.com/news/volkswagen-pulls-diesels-from-2016-model-year-line-up/
Old news. We already knew they were gonna pull them. EPA pulled the certs for the 2016 models even though they have the SCR system that passes emissions just fine.
What exactly is the appeal of a diesel small car to begin with? I can see the value on a heavy duty truck, but is it necessary for a car?
You gotta drive one to understand.
The torque curve is pretty fun. It pulls hard on the highway past 60mph. Back in 2010, the Jetta came with that boat anchor 2.5 or the TDI. The TDI was better in every respect.
And to top it off, diesel is actually less than 87 in my area.
Source: traded in my Jetta TDI for an X5d. Driven pretty much every modern German diesel on the market currently.
I thought diesel was primarily a truck thing for fuel economy, torque and longevity. I didn't understand why diesel cars were popular in the states, because gas is cheap. But if the performance is good, I can see it.
Yup. I took this a few weeks back of my car.
That's 25mpg mixed over the life of the car and 290+ miles on half a tank of diesel. Not too shabby for a 5000+ lb SUV.
The local VW shop called my father in law to schedule the appointment to get his Tiguan fixed. From what I could tell he's getting urea injection to fix his. I was in the basement and German is not my native language so I could be wrong.
It's not old news. The application was pulled yesterday and it's significant because it means that VW knows that the '16's with the urea system are not going to pass and they will need to engineer a fix for them as well. Pulling the application for cars that are already on dealer lots is a big deal because restarting it is a costly and time-intensive process. It's possible that VW won't sell another one of these diesels in the US.
The benefits of diesel are one of those hidden nuggets in the USA that people just don't know about. They have a really great torque curve for excellent power and return amazing economy, no matter how hard they're driven. My absolute worst tank in my Golf TDI was 39mpg during a blizzard. My best is 49.2mpg. If I drive like a jerk, I get 42-44mpg.
With a 14.5 gallon tank, that's a 700+ mile range. Even when diesel cost more than gas, it was worth it.
This doesn't even touch the longevity of the motor either. I have 325K miles on mine, and that isn't even close to what a lot of people have on theirs. There's people over on tdiclub that have 400K/500K/600K on theirs with minimal problems. Try getting that on a gas motor.
I'm hoping they get the 2016's and up certified, as I'd like to replace mine with another Golf TDI when the time comes.
With a 14.5 gallon tank, that's a 700+ mile range. Even when diesel cost more than gas, it was worth it.
This doesn't even touch the longevity of the motor either. I have 325K miles on mine, and that isn't even close to what a lot of people have on theirs. There's people over on tdiclub that have 400K/500K/600K on theirs with minimal problems. Try getting that on a gas motor.
I'm hoping they get the 2016's and up certified, as I'd like to replace mine with another Golf TDI when the time comes.
Get the 1.6 that's still legal and buy a superchips bluefin for it
I'd love to, but unfortunately, the USA is very limited on what engines VW will import. I'm afraid it'll get tighter after this fiasco too.
I'll just keep driving my 1.9L until things improve. I'm in no rush to upgrade.
You don't get the 1.6tdi? Please tell me you at least get the dsg gearboxI'd love to, but unfortunately, the USA is very limited on what engines VW will import. I'm afraid it'll get tighter after this fiasco too.
I'll just keep driving my 1.9L until things improve. I'm in no rush to upgrade.
drove through one of the local VW lots this morning to find every single diesel (probably close to 100 of them) with a sold tag hanging from the mirror and pushed to the back of the lot. That's a lot of cars that are going to be sitting, unsellable, until further notice.
We only get the 2.0TDI and 3.0TDI here.
In terms of petrol engines, VW has the 1.4T (base Jetta), 1.8T, 1.4T hybrid, 2.0T (GTI/GLI), and the 2.0 I4. They used to have a 2.5 I5, but that has been phased out. We also get the 3.6L VR6, but only in the Passats and Touareg.
Yeah, my local VW/Audi dealer has a bunch hiding in the back. It really is unfortunate.
The silver lining to all this is that people will realize how good the 1.8T TSI actually is.
My Sunday school teacher bought a new Passat TDI a couple of months back and has been raving about it. I was joking with him about it today, and he's dead set on not getting it fixed if the fix involves a reduction in power.
KY doesn't have emissions testing...
KY doesn't have emissions testing...
Good luck with that. If it's new, it will be fixed when he brings it in for any scheduled service or warranty work whether he likes it or not. And given how seriously the government is taking this, I would not be surprised to see a VIN block on all affected cars barring them from being registered until they have been fixed.
Cars are already registered... One would be merely renewing them.
That being said, I highly doubt that would be barred. Look at the broken ignition switch GM cars. That is a significantly more serious issue... yet there are no VIN blocks.
Same with the recalled Takata airbag cars.
Yes, of course, renewed.
The problem is that these cars are all in violation of Federal emissions laws which are taken extremely seriously. More similar than the GM or Takata recalls is how they have dealt with people attempting to illegally import older grey-market vehicles. Even though that's an extremely niche market, the government has taken extreme steps such as tracking down owners online through community forums like this one, and showing up at their houses to seize the vehicles where they are then crushed with no recourse.
I'm sure that the EPA is allowing VW this much time so that they can come to a mutually agreeable solution, but I am certain that a key part of the solution will be that the fix is compulsory for all vehicles, and not treated like a regular recall campaign where they are lucky to ever reach 50% of the affected vehicles.