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As usual, Verizon has introduced new plans that are just as bad as the pervious. No more family plans? A large portion of their customers are family plans...genius
 
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I hope AT&T doesn't follow, at least not for a very long while.

Verizon kills off service contracts, smartphone subsidies

So you can end up giving AT&T more of your money over the 2 year contract rather than purchase the phone at full retail and get a cheaper rate plan from them? I mean, it could amount to the same price either way. But in most cases it ends up being much less money spent in the long run when you buy the phone unsubsidized and get a lower rate plan.
 
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So you can end up giving AT&T more of your money over the 2 year contract rather than purchase the phone at full retail and get a cheaper rate plan from them? I mean, it could amount to the same price either way. But in most cases it ends up being much less money spent in the long run when you buy the phone unsubsidized and get a lower rate plan.

Not if I (and others) have a large corporate discount and grandfathered cheap voice/text and unlimited data plans. If I net out the subsidy contribution, I'm paying less than $47/month for unlimited data.
 
As usual, Verizon has introduced new plans that are just as bad as the pervious. No more family plans? A large portion of their customers are family plans...genius

Verizon always tries to find more ways to give less and get more money from their customers.
This move doesn't surprise me at all.
That's why T Mobile will keep closing the gap from the 2 greedy carriers to a consumer friendly and great deals network.
 
So you can end up giving AT&T more of your money over the 2 year contract rather than purchase the phone at full retail and get a cheaper rate plan from them? I mean, it could amount to the same price either way. But in most cases it ends up being much less money spent in the long run when you buy the phone unsubsidized and get a lower rate plan.

That's not the case with everyone's plan, fan discount and when unlimited data plans come into play.
Everyone keeps playing that wrong tune that its less money unsubsidized and lower monthly rate but that's far from the actual truth....
 
I did look for an existing thread before posting. Why it's under "iOS Blog Discussion" is beyond me. It's a wireless provider story.
Probably because no more fitting section than that here, and given that as far as Apple goes at most this applies to iOS devices.
 
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Probably because no more fitting section that that given that as far as Apple goes at most this applies to iOS devices.

I guess my definition of "fitting" doesn't fit with MR conventions. Linking a carrier's equipment sales and service agreement policies to iOS devices is a bridge too far.
 
I guess my definition of "fitting" doesn't fit with MR conventions. Linking a carrier's equipment sales and service agreement policies to iOS devices is a bridge too far.
Given that carrier policies affect quite a few people with iOS devices (and given that iOS devices represent quite a bit of Apple's business), doesn't seem all that unrelated. (Even you seemed to have deemed it worthy enough to be posted about in the iPhone section.)
 
That's not the case with everyone's plan, fan discount and when unlimited data plans come into play.
Everyone keeps playing that wrong tune that its less money unsubsidized and lower monthly rate but that's far from the actual truth....

I buy my iPhones outright and use them on a prepaid service. For me, unsubsidized is much cheaper.
 
Given that carrier policies affect quite a few people with iOS devices (and given that iOS devices represent quite a bit of Apple's business), doesn't seem all that unrelated. (Even you seemed to have deemed it worthy enough to be posted about in the iPhone section.)

As far as linkage, if one tries hard enough, one can say that apples and zebras are not at all unrelated. This forum has a specific prefix for "Carrier." It seemed to logical to look for and post that story here. I'm not saying posting in the other thread was wrong, just not intuitive to a bumpkin like me. I prefer specificity to generality. YMMV.
 
Do you think that Apple will no longer be able to advertise in their keynotes that the iPhone "starts" at $199, since all major carriers now use unsubsidized plans? If not, then would they go with an "around" $27/month or something else?
 
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Do you think that Apple will no longer be able to advertise in their keynotes that the iPhone "starts" at $199, since all major carriers now use unsubsidized plans? If not, then would they go with an "around" $27/month or something else?

AT&T and Sprint still have subsidized plans.
 
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AT&T and Sprint still have subsidized plans.
AT&T subsidized phone are only available at ATT stores, not Apple Store. And Sprint is such small potatoes it would make sense for them to start listing the u subsidized price and then say something like "see carrier for specific monthly costs".
 
What if current customers want to upgrade to a new phone? Can they still get subsidized pricing if they don't change plans?
 
What if current customers want to upgrade to a new phone? Can they still get subsidized pricing if they don't change plans?
Until 8/13, yes. After 8/13 seems like subsidized contract option won't be on the table anymore.
 
Do you think that Apple will no longer be able to advertise in their keynotes that the iPhone "starts" at $199, since all major carriers now use unsubsidized plans? If not, then would they go with an "around" $27/month or something else?
They'll just advertise them as "$0 down". Which will probably help them sell even more Iphones.
 
Whatever they do, I can almost guarantee they won't go back to listing the full price of the phone. They'll either stick with the subsidized prices anyway, or like stated above, say something along the lines of "Starts at $0 down- see carrier for details".
 
Whatever they do, I can almost guarantee they won't go back to listing the full price of the phone. They'll either stick with the subsidized prices anyway, or like stated above, say something along the lines of "Starts at $0 down- see carrier for details".
Right, the financing option will be the main one that gets advertised.
 
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