Wait for Haswell or Broadwell? Air or Pro?

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I know the MacBook Pro's haven't been updated with Haswell, but that makes me think... should I buy a base 13" Air with Haswell now and next year, pick up a 15" MacBook Pro with Broadwell? I'm only thinking that because Haswell still uses a 22nm architecture and Broadwell will use a 14nm architecture which could point towards a redesigned MacBook Pro.

If I buy a $2000 laptop, I want it to look current for a number of years, and if Broadwell is introduced with a black aluminum MacBook Pro, I'll hate myself.

What do you guys think?

I mainly use my laptop for school, I would love to edit videos and create some music with Logic on the go, but I have a Windows desktop that still has some kick in it (Core2Quad, 2.34Ghz w/8GB RAM). :confused:

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Also, this will be my first Mac that I'd keep as a personal machine, and if needed, how much would it resell for in about 10 months from now? If anyone has experience, how much do Apple computers depreciate by? Or should I just keep it as an email machine along side a broadwell Pro if I choose to go down that road?
 

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If anyone's wondering, I'm considering the 13 inch with the 256GB option, 8GB of RAM and the 1.3GHz i5.
 

Crzyrio

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Broadwell is well over a year away, no one knows what is going to change.

If anything you can buy Haswell and sell when broadwell comes out
 

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Not sure if this thread is a serious one, but don't count on a redesign for a new intel architecture change. I'd love a black aluminium MBP too but don't count on that either, your best bet is the retina MBP that design should be current for a least a few years.

Besides who cares about the design being 'current' if it does what you want it to and you were happy when you bought it, ******* what anyone else thinks.
 

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Wait for Haswell or Broadwell? Air or Pro?
Wait for Haswell in the (r)MBP. The results are impressive, Mavericks (OS X 10.9.x) is optimized for the Haswell platform (20 US$ upgrade from the Mac App Store) and the necessary processors for Haswell (r)MBPs exist already. It is just a matter of time.

Broadwell comes in 2015 (not 2014), IIRC.

If I buy a $2000 laptop, I want it to look current for a number of years, and if Broadwell is introduced with a black aluminum MacBook Pro, I'll hate myself.
Relax! I use my Early-2011 i7 Quad-Core MBP (Sandy Bridge platform) everyday (C/C++/ASM-development, e-mail, video encoding, Linux, Windows- and OS X VMs, et cetera). Just make sure you have enough RAM and storage space (i have 16 GB RAM and a 1 TB HDD). This thing is fast. I think i can use it until 2016.

If you want a longer battery life choose the i5. If you need more power, choose the i7.

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Besides who cares about the design being 'current' if it does what you want it to and you were happy when you bought it, ******* what anyone else thinks.
Exactly! :)
 

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Lol I just want something that looks nice and will look good for a number of years. Not saying the current MacBook's are ugly, but they are dated.
 

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If I buy a $2000 laptop, I want it to look current for a number of years, and if Broadwell is introduced with a black aluminum MacBook Pro, I'll hate myself.
You can already buy a black MacBook Pro - it's called the Razer Blade Pro :p
 

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Lol I just want something that looks nice and will look good for a number of years. Not saying the current MacBook's are ugly, but they are dated.
don't hope for something which is nonexistant, the current model is the redesigned macbook pro...what else can you expect?

the cMBP unibody design have been used since .. 2008 till now...so it lasts for 5 years+

the rMBP design IS the latest ones.
i don't think there will be any major cosmetic changes on macbook anytime soon.
 
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PDFierro

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Lol I just want something that looks nice and will look good for a number of years. Not saying the current MacBook's are ugly, but they are dated.
What do you want them to look like? As stated, the design is new. You are hoping for unrealistic things here. There's always going to be something new around the corner, but I wouldn't get an Air if your concern is aesthetics.
 

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A redesign from 2012 is daaattteeeeddd!????????????? :eek:[/QUOTE]

They slimmed it down, but it wasn't anything different. Sliver on black like usual.
 

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A redesign from 2012 is daaattteeeeddd!????????????? :eek:
They slimmed it down, but it wasn't anything different. Sliver on black like usual.
Well if you think the current design is dated then you have to wait until they come up with a new one. Nobody can tell you whether that will be next year or in three years (or never).

The iPhone is redesigned each year, although one could probably argue that it only has evolved, staying relatively close to the original design. Similarly the iPad hasn't changed much since release. Right now I don't see Apple moving away from its design concept. In particular I don't see them dropping the aluminum unibody concept.


@Retrofire
In fashion a design from the previous season (i.e. 3 month old) is considered outdated. On the other hand 20-30 years old designs sometimes have comebacks. Let's hope this never happens with computers.
 

HurryKayne

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Broadwell is well over a year away, no one knows what is going to change.

If anything you can buy Haswell and sell when broadwell comes out
Maybe its not even the Cpu side the most important to watch,
i mean i heard a rumor talking about Thunderbolt 2 in the next MacBook Pro.
Now i don't know if Falcon Ridge could stay with Haswell or just with Broadwell.
An Air with Broadwell,new Iris Gpu,maybe Retina and with Thunderbolt 2 could be very interesting..even if still with dual core.
Actually i'm more interested to see what Apple will do with its 13MBPRO Retina,
because..if Air will go Retina..13 cannot have the "same specs" but to go at least to Quad Core...if Air will go Quad...13 will have to and to put back a real Gpu and i'm not seeing this happen...
so i think Apple will stay on dual with Air with Broadwell and if Air will go to Retina to push Quads in the 13..this with TB2 ..the same first shown in the new MacPro..
this if they don't redesign and unify Air and MacBook Pro line in one,
let see.
 

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because..if Air will go Retina..13 cannot have the "same specs" but to go at least to Quad Core...if Air will go Quad...13 will have to and to put back a real Gpu and i'm not seeing this happen...
so i think Apple will stay on dual with Air with Broadwell and if Air will go to Retina to push Quads in the 13..this with TB2 ..the same first shown in the new MacPro..
this if they don't redesign and unify Air and MacBook Pro line in one,
let see.
Well this time around they still have no retina air and the 28W vs 15W TDP difference. I think Pro is still a joke as a label but okay.
Broadwell afaik will move all mobile chips to SoC designs like the current U series. So Quad Cores and 37W dual cores will get the same treatment and great battery life.
At that point with 14nm there might be a 28W quad core or just going for 37W quad will be a doable option.
Maybe they just scrap the 13" Pro all together.
What Haswell is for all the Ultrabook class notebooks 15&28W that will be Broadwell for all the higher performance demanding crowd.

I would say for all those that want an Air or something similar with focus on long battery life Haswell is a great update time. For everybody else who doesn't have anything older than a 2011 MBP today there is not much point upgrading a 15" until Broadwell shows up.
 

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I would say for all those that want an Air or something similar with focus on long battery life Haswell is a great update time. For everybody else who doesn't have anything older than a 2011 MBP today there is not much point upgrading a 15" until Broadwell shows up.
That's what I'm saying. I have a desktop that's powerful enough for another year or so and I need a machine that can do basic tasks all day long. I think, however I'm going to wait for the Pro update. If the Pro seems promising than I'll go with that and probably resell it in a year or two, whenever a redesigned MacBook Pro comes out. I'd love the 15 inch but I'll settle for the 13 if the price is right.
 

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That's what I'm saying. I have a desktop that's powerful enough for another year or so and I need a machine that can do basic tasks all day long. I think, however I'm going to wait for the Pro update. If the Pro seems promising than I'll go with that and probably resell it in a year or two, whenever a redesigned MacBook Pro comes out. I'd love the 15 inch but I'll settle for the 13 if the price is right.
You're still focusing too much on a re-design and how good the exterior of the machine looks. Believe it or not, the Pro just got a complete re-design last year.
 

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You're still focusing too much on a re-design and how good the exterior of the machine looks. Believe it or not, the Pro just got a complete re-design last year.
I know, it's shallow of me, but I'm not 100% on the exterior. I'm also worried about the specs of the machine and I want the most bang for the buck and if I get a faster machine with a new design in a year or so, what's the harm in keeping that option open?

After all, Apple's pointing towards this new design language with the Mac Pro, iPad Mini and rumoured iPad shells, the iPhone 5 and the iPod touches and nano's. All of these products have/suppose to have a black aluminum or coloured aluminum texture somewhere on their exterior, what's the harm in speculating they might do that to the MacBook Pro and Air? Anythings possible.
 

PDFierro

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I know, it's shallow of me, but I'm not 100% on the exterior. I'm also worried about the specs of the machine and I want the most bang for the buck and if I get a faster machine with a new design in a year or so, what's the harm in keeping that option open?

After all, Apple's pointing towards this new design language with the Mac Pro, iPad Mini and rumoured iPad shells, the iPhone 5 and the iPod touches and nano's. All of these products have/suppose to have a black aluminum or coloured aluminum texture somewhere on their exterior, what's the harm in speculating they might do that to the MacBook Pro and Air? Anythings possible.
Well keep dreaming. But you're going to be waiting endless years to get the best bang for your buck, because there's always going to be something around the corner. The rest of us actually use our machines instead of just looking at them. Your call, though.