Wait for Haswell or Broadwell? Air or Pro?

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by Windows&Apple, Jun 20, 2013.

  1. Windows&Apple macrumors regular

    Jan 1, 2013
    I know the MacBook Pro's haven't been updated with Haswell, but that makes me think... should I buy a base 13" Air with Haswell now and next year, pick up a 15" MacBook Pro with Broadwell? I'm only thinking that because Haswell still uses a 22nm architecture and Broadwell will use a 14nm architecture which could point towards a redesigned MacBook Pro.

    If I buy a $2000 laptop, I want it to look current for a number of years, and if Broadwell is introduced with a black aluminum MacBook Pro, I'll hate myself.

    What do you guys think?

    I mainly use my laptop for school, I would love to edit videos and create some music with Logic on the go, but I have a Windows desktop that still has some kick in it (Core2Quad, 2.34Ghz w/8GB RAM). :confused:


    Also, this will be my first Mac that I'd keep as a personal machine, and if needed, how much would it resell for in about 10 months from now? If anyone has experience, how much do Apple computers depreciate by? Or should I just keep it as an email machine along side a broadwell Pro if I choose to go down that road?
  2. Windows&Apple thread starter macrumors regular

    Jan 1, 2013
    If anyone's wondering, I'm considering the 13 inch with the 256GB option, 8GB of RAM and the 1.3GHz i5.
  3. Crzyrio macrumors 65816

    Jul 6, 2010
    Broadwell is well over a year away, no one knows what is going to change.

    If anything you can buy Haswell and sell when broadwell comes out
  4. Xcallibur macrumors 6502a


    Jul 24, 2011
    Not sure if this thread is a serious one, but don't count on a redesign for a new intel architecture change. I'd love a black aluminium MBP too but don't count on that either, your best bet is the retina MBP that design should be current for a least a few years.

    Besides who cares about the design being 'current' if it does what you want it to and you were happy when you bought it, ******* what anyone else thinks.
  5. Mr. Retrofire macrumors 601

    Mr. Retrofire

    Mar 2, 2010
    Wait for Haswell in the (r)MBP. The results are impressive, Mavericks (OS X 10.9.x) is optimized for the Haswell platform (20 US$ upgrade from the Mac App Store) and the necessary processors for Haswell (r)MBPs exist already. It is just a matter of time.

    Broadwell comes in 2015 (not 2014), IIRC.

    Relax! I use my Early-2011 i7 Quad-Core MBP (Sandy Bridge platform) everyday (C/C++/ASM-development, e-mail, video encoding, Linux, Windows- and OS X VMs, et cetera). Just make sure you have enough RAM and storage space (i have 16 GB RAM and a 1 TB HDD). This thing is fast. I think i can use it until 2016.

    If you want a longer battery life choose the i5. If you need more power, choose the i7.


    Exactly! :)
  6. ugahairydawgs macrumors 68030


    Jun 10, 2010
    That you need some perspective on life.
  7. Windows&Apple thread starter macrumors regular

    Jan 1, 2013
    Lol I just want something that looks nice and will look good for a number of years. Not saying the current MacBook's are ugly, but they are dated.
  8. Doward macrumors 6502a

    Feb 21, 2013
    You can already buy a black MacBook Pro - it's called the Razer Blade Pro :p
  9. Mr. Retrofire macrumors 601

    Mr. Retrofire

    Mar 2, 2010
    Good, then buy a BMW or a Rolex.


    A redesign from 2012 is daaattteeeeddd!????????????? :eek:
  10. devilcm3, Jun 20, 2013
    Last edited: Jun 20, 2013

    devilcm3 macrumors 6502a

    Jan 3, 2011
    South Melbourne, Australia
    don't hope for something which is nonexistant, the current model is the redesigned macbook pro...what else can you expect?

    the cMBP unibody design have been used since .. 2008 till now...so it lasts for 5 years+

    the rMBP design IS the latest ones.
    i don't think there will be any major cosmetic changes on macbook anytime soon.
  11. PDFierro macrumors 68040

    Sep 8, 2009
    What do you want them to look like? As stated, the design is new. You are hoping for unrealistic things here. There's always going to be something new around the corner, but I wouldn't get an Air if your concern is aesthetics.
  12. Windows&Apple thread starter macrumors regular

    Jan 1, 2013
    A redesign from 2012 is daaattteeeeddd!????????????? :eek:[/QUOTE]

    They slimmed it down, but it wasn't anything different. Sliver on black like usual.
  13. Mr. Retrofire macrumors 601

    Mr. Retrofire

    Mar 2, 2010
    The 2012 redesign includes a new cooling system and asymmetrical (silent) fans.
  14. PDFierro macrumors 68040

    Sep 8, 2009
    They slimmed it down, but it wasn't anything different. Sliver on black like usual.[/QUOTE]

    Then you will be waiting a looooooooong time before you buy a Mac.
  15. ohbrilliance macrumors 6502a


    May 15, 2007
    Melbourne, Australia
    1. Wait for Haswell rMBP (any time from July to October) and buy
    2. When your all-new timeless black Broadwell rMBP comes out, sell your Haswell and upgrade.
  16. gngan macrumors 68000


    Jan 1, 2009
    If that's your philosophy of buying things then you won't be buying anything.
  17. thundersteele macrumors 68030

    Oct 19, 2011
    Well if you think the current design is dated then you have to wait until they come up with a new one. Nobody can tell you whether that will be next year or in three years (or never).

    The iPhone is redesigned each year, although one could probably argue that it only has evolved, staying relatively close to the original design. Similarly the iPad hasn't changed much since release. Right now I don't see Apple moving away from its design concept. In particular I don't see them dropping the aluminum unibody concept.

    In fashion a design from the previous season (i.e. 3 month old) is considered outdated. On the other hand 20-30 years old designs sometimes have comebacks. Let's hope this never happens with computers.
  18. HurryKayne macrumors 6502a

    Jun 9, 2010
    Maybe its not even the Cpu side the most important to watch,
    i mean i heard a rumor talking about Thunderbolt 2 in the next MacBook Pro.
    Now i don't know if Falcon Ridge could stay with Haswell or just with Broadwell.
    An Air with Broadwell,new Iris Gpu,maybe Retina and with Thunderbolt 2 could be very interesting..even if still with dual core.
    Actually i'm more interested to see what Apple will do with its 13MBPRO Retina,
    because..if Air will go Retina..13 cannot have the "same specs" but to go at least to Quad Core...if Air will go Quad...13 will have to and to put back a real Gpu and i'm not seeing this happen...
    so i think Apple will stay on dual with Air with Broadwell and if Air will go to Retina to push Quads in the 13..this with TB2 ..the same first shown in the new MacPro..
    this if they don't redesign and unify Air and MacBook Pro line in one,
    let see.
  19. Livewings macrumors regular

    Dec 16, 2012
  20. dusk007 macrumors 68040


    Dec 5, 2009
    Well this time around they still have no retina air and the 28W vs 15W TDP difference. I think Pro is still a joke as a label but okay.
    Broadwell afaik will move all mobile chips to SoC designs like the current U series. So Quad Cores and 37W dual cores will get the same treatment and great battery life.
    At that point with 14nm there might be a 28W quad core or just going for 37W quad will be a doable option.
    Maybe they just scrap the 13" Pro all together.
    What Haswell is for all the Ultrabook class notebooks 15&28W that will be Broadwell for all the higher performance demanding crowd.

    I would say for all those that want an Air or something similar with focus on long battery life Haswell is a great update time. For everybody else who doesn't have anything older than a 2011 MBP today there is not much point upgrading a 15" until Broadwell shows up.
  21. Windows&Apple thread starter macrumors regular

    Jan 1, 2013
    That's what I'm saying. I have a desktop that's powerful enough for another year or so and I need a machine that can do basic tasks all day long. I think, however I'm going to wait for the Pro update. If the Pro seems promising than I'll go with that and probably resell it in a year or two, whenever a redesigned MacBook Pro comes out. I'd love the 15 inch but I'll settle for the 13 if the price is right.
  22. PDFierro macrumors 68040

    Sep 8, 2009
    You're still focusing too much on a re-design and how good the exterior of the machine looks. Believe it or not, the Pro just got a complete re-design last year.
  23. zipur macrumors 6502a


    Mar 3, 2011
    The great state of Texas
    Here ya go, get a new rMBP Now and then use this service and you will have the soon to be released 2014 MacBook Pro GOLD Version.


    Only for the Rich and Shallow
  24. Windows&Apple thread starter macrumors regular

    Jan 1, 2013
    I know, it's shallow of me, but I'm not 100% on the exterior. I'm also worried about the specs of the machine and I want the most bang for the buck and if I get a faster machine with a new design in a year or so, what's the harm in keeping that option open?

    After all, Apple's pointing towards this new design language with the Mac Pro, iPad Mini and rumoured iPad shells, the iPhone 5 and the iPod touches and nano's. All of these products have/suppose to have a black aluminum or coloured aluminum texture somewhere on their exterior, what's the harm in speculating they might do that to the MacBook Pro and Air? Anythings possible.
  25. PDFierro macrumors 68040

    Sep 8, 2009
    Well keep dreaming. But you're going to be waiting endless years to get the best bang for your buck, because there's always going to be something around the corner. The rest of us actually use our machines instead of just looking at them. Your call, though.

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