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Well keep dreaming. But you're going to be waiting endless years to get the best bang for your buck, because there's always going to be something around the corner. The rest of us actually use our machines instead of just looking at them. Your call, though.

When did I ever say I'm not going to use my machine? All I was doing was asking everyone's opinion on a possible redesign and if I should go with a Pro or an Air. I never once mentioned that all I would be doing is looking at it, but yes, that's one reason I'm buying a Mac. If all I wanted was the best bang for my buck, I would've bought a Windows machine years ago.
 
All of these products have/suppose to have a black aluminum or coloured aluminum texture somewhere on their exterior, what's the harm in speculating they might do that to the MacBook Pro and Air? Anythings possible.
There is strong reason why they wont offer MBA & MBP in black aluminium. Take a look:

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Now try to imagine black MBP having much larger surfaces than iP5 with all scratches from daily usage. Would you like to have every single scratch (very) visible on your laptop just few weeks after you took it from store?
 
There is strong reason why they wont offer MBA & MBP in black aluminium. Take a look:

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Now try to imagine black MBP having much larger surfaces than iP5 with all scratches from daily usage. Would you like to have every single scratch (very) visible on your laptop just few weeks after you took it from store?

I suppose you're right on that, but the iPad mini uses a similar aluminum coating and it's pretty durable.
 
I will repeat. You must have in mind MBP large surfaces vs iPhone, iPad... Scratches on large black surfaces look horrible - even small ones!
 
@Windows&Apple You got me interested in black MBP so I took some research and I found on one German site possible look of black MBP. I must admit, looks gorgeous :rolleyes: Take a look:

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There is strong reason why they wont offer MBA & MBP in black aluminium. Take a look:

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Now try to imagine black MBP having much larger surfaces than iP5 with all scratches from daily usage. Would you like to have every single scratch (very) visible on your laptop just few weeks after you took it from store?

I agree with you. Really, I'm waiting for a new design for iPhone, because it's too boring take all care with the iPhone 5 to don't get any scratch. I love the aluminum's color, but I hate the white glass. For to use a case, it's better be a plastic already, in the end you'll even use a plastic case.
 
Based off of the look of my iPhone 5...I would not want to get a black MacBook Pro...every little scratch you would normally not know about will be visible on that thing. Do not wait on purchasing a computer based off of the color, that is ridiculous.
 
What makes you think 22nm to 14nm will suggest a new design? The current design has been around since 2008 with 45nm Penryn chips.

If you're going to wait, might as well wait for Skylake sometime in 2015. Broadwell is just a shrunken version of Haswell, so nothing to get excited about. Skylake will be a whole new architecture and bring the next generation of new performance boosting and battery saving technologies.
 
When did I ever say I'm not going to use my machine? All I was doing was asking everyone's opinion on a possible redesign and if I should go with a Pro or an Air. I never once mentioned that all I would be doing is looking at it, but yes, that's one reason I'm buying a Mac. If all I wanted was the best bang for my buck, I would've bought a Windows machine years ago.

It doesn't matter what kind of computer you're talking about. It could be one of the latest Lenovo ThinkPads, or the Samsung Series 9.

Haswell has only just been released, and already you're anxious enough that you're looking to a microarchitecture that may be released in 2Q 2014 (though the latest rumours are putting it at 2015). If you're insistent on this mindset, why not wait then until Skylake in 2016, as someone else mentioned? Or perhaps until 20xx, when Intel adopts quantum computing? You see what we mean here? Why even bother at all?

At the end of the day, you have to ask yourself a question: how much do I really need a new computer? How much of a productivity boost would I get from a new machine, and would losing that be worth the time spent waiting for something better?

All computers are born to be obsolete. Arguably, they're obsolete almost the minute they’re released - or even sooner, as just as Apple's announced your Mac at WWDC, it's also busy prepping its successor for release in a few months' time (just ask anyone who bought a Quadra 900, or a single-processor 1.8 Ghz Power Mac G5).

If you really want to get truly the best bang for your buck in computing, ultimately, the best choice is no choice at all.
 
That's what I'm saying. I have a desktop that's powerful enough for another year or so and I need a machine that can do basic tasks all day long. I think, however I'm going to wait for the Pro update. If the Pro seems promising than I'll go with that and probably resell it in a year or two, whenever a redesigned MacBook Pro comes out. I'd love the 15 inch but I'll settle for the 13 if the price is right.

First of all good morning from Florence (its 8.36 Am here now),and its sunny,
ok after the meteo,
i have to say that i agree,,then i noticed that maybe Broadwell have been shifted to 2015 so maybe we will see Thunderbolt 2 with next MacBook Pro and
even for me ..with an old but glorious 2006 MacBook Pro, i think its time to wait for the next Fall Mac Book Pro (i mean great battery,TB2,new Nvidia Gpu [780mx?] ) .
I also heard that next TBoot iteration ,the "TB3" will hit the 50Gbps for channel
so maybe with Broadwell we will see an "Air Pro" with Quad Core and TB3?
A dream...but..2015 in really too far for my needs...so i will grab a 2013 MacBook Pro 15 Retina when it lands and i will ask an XBOXone or a PS4 for Santa^^:D this while i put some cash in my wallet for the new Mac Pro of the 2018 ( because i won't able to afford this one i fear^^:p ),
 
Good morning from Bulgaria. Here is 11:00 and is also Sunny... :D

I don't know about Thunderbolt 2 or Macbook Pro but here will rain today and will be partly cloudy around 30C...

... And I want my new Hasswell Macbook Pro 13" with Retina display! :rolleyes:
 
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