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Wait Until 2012 for MacBook Pro REDESIGN?

Only question I have for the OP is, what makes you think that Apple is redesign the MBP in 2012? What evidence do you have that they will even do this by that specific timeframe?
 
Sadly I think a liquidmetal MBP is going to be a long way off. If anything, the iPhone will be the first thing to use it. I highly doubt they would make a massive product out of a relatively new thing, instead they will gradually start to use more of it.
 
dlowmoney said:
PREACH, PREACH PREACH BROTHA!

I have been doing music prodction for almost 15 years and have lusted for a Mac for quite some time. I recently put the cash together to get something nice and ALMOST got caught up in all this refresh, sandybridge hype...then realised that what was available out there WAS AMAZING and there wasn't any reason to wait. Just popped the cash down on a 15", 2.66 GHZ i7 MBP and I sure as hell won't be looking back.
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This.

Before, I was content with my late 2006 black MacBook, and always told myself I was never gonna buy another Mac cause it was all I needed. Then, I started getting into heavy video and photo editing (albeit just for recreation and nothing fancy haha), and realized that my little BlackBook was working it's little heart out and couldn't keep up, especially when working with the HD video from the iPhone 4.

Now, with all this talk of sandy-toes and big pet cats, I figured it may be the time to bite down and get a new MacBook Pro because, for me at least, I'm perfectly content with a snow-covered leopard, and the hardware out now is MORE than enough to last me several years, if not more. So, I got me a 15" 2.8 i7 MBP with anti-glare. :D
 
old-wiz said:
Finally a voice of reason. There are very very few people whose needs cannot be met by an existing MBP. With the 13" MBP the biggest seller, it seems obvious that it works well enough.

My 13" MBP is more than I really need. I have less than 40GB in use on a 160GB drive. It's 2.26 C2D, and is pefectly fine for what I do, which is probably similar to a large number of people. My wife uses an iBook G4 1.33 mhz with a gig of RAM for websurfing and e-mail and it is enough for her.

And look at all the early adopters from the other companies who got SB machines and now have to have them replaced. I'd rather have proven troublefree technology.
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tjb1 said:
What improvements? Stronger? Lighter? The aluminum unibody they use now is very light, probably only 20% of the whole computers weight. Its not very thick and I dont care what metal you use, if you make it as thin as Apple does to make the computer small and fit everything in then its going to dent or flex.

The screen has a high enough resolution, FW800 is fast enough and Sandy Bridge isnt bringing much of anything over the current Arrandale.

Cant you just be happy that the MBP is made out of aluminum, can be outfitted with a Hi-Res screen besides the 13", has a lighted keyboard, multitouch trackpad, built in bluetooth, great batteries, FW800, USB, SD Card, Ethernet, MDP, Line In and Out, CD Drive, Webcam, and good Speakers...oh and the updates Apple releases are useful and include something unlike the 400 Security Updates that Microsoft releases weekly.
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Totally and utterly in agreement with you...
It gets very old the way some people keep chasing specs like it really matters when the vast majority are served perfectly well by the current range.
I plan to keep my mid 2010 for a good 3 years or more.
Hell, if someone snuck into my house and swapped my i5 for a Core2Duo I would probably never even notice.
The current unibody still looks better (imo) than just about any other current laptop and I`m damn sure I want to keep the ethernet/optical drive for the time being too.
 
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buy a used one and resell it when the new ones come out. If you buy one that is a 2010 model it will still have warranty which is a big plus on the resale market.
 
There are always threads like this one. If you want it/need it right now, then buy it. With the attitude of "well I can wait until next year to get a better model," then you'll never end up getting one.
 
I think the 2011 MBPs will be a subtle redesign. I think they will make the edges a little more curved, perhaps a little similar in shape to the white MacBook. The square kind of look is a little dated...been around since 2008. Guess we'll just have to wait and see...its definitely not long off ;)
 
I may have to buy one now....

newdeal said:
buy a used one and resell it when the new ones come out. If you buy one that is a 2010 model it will still have warranty which is a big plus on the resale market.
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I've been making do without my MBP since December, but really running out of patience. Here's my question (and yes, I'm searched MRoogle) :p : if I were to go out and buy one today, I wonder how much I could resell it for once the refresh comes out?? I know there's no scientific answer, because the price varies on specs, etc., but am I likely to lose $500+ off the top of my purchase price? I think we may be in for a long wait for the refresh (i.e. summer). Thanks, everyone. :(
 
vincenz said:
There are always threads like this one. If you want it/need it right now, then buy it. With the attitude of "well I can wait until next year to get a better model," then you'll never end up getting one.
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I think a given set of circumstances mandate different thoughts on this. For instance, I am eagerly awaiting the 2011 refresh myself. I currently have a late-2009 MBP, but my girlfriend has decided she wants one too. She is suited fine with her desktop now, but when the new refresh comes out Im getting it, and she is taking over my current MBP.

Does that mean that if the 2011 model doesn't blow me away I'm going to wait? Not a chance. I know it will be more than sufficient, but I bought my late-2009 1 month before the 2010 refresh, because I didn't do my homework. That was annoying...
 
thirty7alpha said:
I've been making do without my MBP since December, but really running out of patience. Here's my question (and yes, I'm searched MRoogle) :p : if I were to go out and buy one today, I wonder how much I could resell it for once the refresh comes out?? I know there's no scientific answer, because the price varies on specs, etc., but am I likely to lose $500+ off the top of my purchase price? I think we may be in for a long wait for the refresh (i.e. summer). Thanks, everyone. :(
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Well if it is kept in good condition and you keep the box and everything, I know there are plenty of late-2009 model 13"ers still pulling like 800-900...If that is any indication.

edit: darn I can't delete this post and add to my earlier one. Merge maybe?
 
Nope, I'm waiting for the 2011 refresh. And since I don't have a need for it right now, I'll probably wait til its shipped with Lion, too.
 
thirty7alpha said:
I've been making do without my MBP since December, but really running out of patience. Here's my question (and yes, I'm searched MRoogle) :p : if I were to go out and buy one today, I wonder how much I could resell it for once the refresh comes out?? I know there's no scientific answer, because the price varies on specs, etc., but am I likely to lose $500+ off the top of my purchase price? I think we may be in for a long wait for the refresh (i.e. summer). Thanks, everyone. :(
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I bought a used one for $950 the other week (canadian) then sold if for $1150...now I bought another one with applecare for $1000 and probobly will be able to sell it for 1200-1300 so if you find a good deal used you will probboly lose nothing and may make money...both of the computers I got were mid 2010 model 13" base pros
 
newdeal said:
I bought a used one for $950 the other week (canadian) then sold if for $1150...now I bought another one with applecare for $1000 and probobly will be able to sell it for 1200-1300 so if you find a good deal used you will probboly lose nothing and may make money...both of the computers I got were mid 2010 model 13" base pros
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Thanks for the info! I think I'm just going to pull the trigger now and take my chances with a re-sale. I think the refresh is going to be awhile. :(

I was driving across Sandy Bridge on my way to Cougar Point, when the bridge failed and I ended up drowning in the Huron River.
 
gonnabuyamacbsh said:
They dent way too easily. If you can't admit that, I really don't know what to tell you. I mean, it's a very common complain among mbp owners.
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They certainly don't dent more easily than a plastic laptop would, so I don't know what your complaint is. People downplay the abuse they apply to their equipment, and they are more likely to post when they had an axe to grind.

As far as "common," sure there are some threads that mention it, but there are also many threads on liquid damage. I'm not sure "Bring on the submersible MBP. Sick of this weak crap." would be a very good response.
 
I think it's safe to say we are going to see a new design. Even the OP said he thinks the optical drive will go... if they are going to cast a new body without an ODD then they might as well update the rest of the body as well.

I also don't think it's a good idea to base the history of body updates on the change to unibody. The powerbook Apple era is not the Apple we are dealing with. I think it's much more accurate to see the body update timeline with the Macbook Air, which would place a new Macbook Pro body change for sometime soon.
 
vipergts2207 said:
"Due to their non-crystalline (amorphous) structures, Liquidmetals are harder than alloys of titanium or aluminum used in similar applications. The zirconium and titanium based Liquidmetal alloys achieved yield strength of over 1723 MPa, nearly twice the strength of conventional crystalline titanium alloys (Ti6Al4V is ~830 MPa), and about the strength of high-strength steels and some highly engineered bulk composite materials."

"They retain a scratch-free surface longer than competing materials, while still being made in complex shapes."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquidmetal

I don't think we'll see amorphous metals used in this refresh, however, as you can see, they offer several benefits over your everyday aluminum. Sandy Bridge might only be a 10-20% increase in performance over Arrendale, but then again, not everyone who's looking forward to Sandy Bridge is using a 15" with an i7 in it. For someone like me who will be coming from a 2007 C2D, Sandy Bridge will be a much welcome increase in performance, not to mention a probable gpu update.
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Yeah stronger...to a point. Anything 1/16" thick is dentable. Maybe all of you complaining about them being SOOO easy to dent should take better care of your computer, the bottom plate on the MBP is probably around .04-.05" thick or less so maybe consider that before you slam the computer down. Ex...A carbon nano tube is stronger than steel of the same size but they are on the nano structure and we could break that with our breath.

I think a comedian uses this but I guess it holds true about everywhere..."You can't fix stupid."
 
tjb1 said:
Yeah stronger...to a point. Anything 1/16" thick is dentable. Maybe all of you complaining about them being SOOO easy to dent should take better care of your computer, the bottom plate on the MBP is probably around .04-.05" thick or less so maybe consider that before you slam the computer down. Ex...A carbon nano tube is stronger than steel of the same size but they are on the nano structure and we could break that with our breath.

I think a comedian uses this but I guess it holds true about everywhere..."You can't fix stupid."
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:)
 
tjb1 said:
Yeah stronger...to a point. Anything 1/16" thick is dentable. Maybe all of you complaining about them being SOOO easy to dent should take better care of your computer, the bottom plate on the MBP is probably around .04-.05" thick or less so maybe consider that before you slam the computer down. Ex...A carbon nano tube is stronger than steel of the same size but they are on the nano structure and we could break that with our breath.

I think a comedian uses this but I guess it holds true about everywhere..."You can't fix stupid."
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Just to be clear, I wasn't complaining about how weak the aluminum is. I was just pointing out the fact that amorphous metal alloys are indeed significantly stronger.
 
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Make me laugh people say the LM will be stronger. Well if you take care of your MBP you won't have that issue.
 
I'm not sure we will get liquid metal in 2011, not on a laptop anyway. But I do think we are gonna get a redesigned body this year for the macbook pro's.
 
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