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Yep, mainly want Pencil support.

Also a speaker upgrade would make watching TV/movies more enjoyable. Speed bump just to make sure it lasts for a few OS updates. 256GB+ storage of course. And water resistance would be welcome.
 
forced touch, lighter weight, smaller bezels
[doublepost=1477000215][/doublepost]but can you read pdfs on the mini? isn't it too small?

It depends on the user. I bought the mini specifically for reading PDFs, and for me it's been great for that. But I've read others who found it too small for PDFs and wound up getting something bigger.
 
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Im on vacation in december, so a new mini pro would be just dandy. I fear i buy a mini 4 it'll be superseded within half a year.
I think it would. When I first got my mini4 it was running great. But now I have the same problem with it loading web pages and having to reload them because "a problem occurred" and pages have to reload.

It's not even a full year old yet and it's acting like my older iPad minis that I got at least two years use with.

I don't know if it just needs more RAM or what. It's a good device though and most of my screen on time is spent with my iPad minis, not my iPhones or Androids, unless I'm gaming on my S7Edge.

I'm really looking forward to pencil functionality on a small form factor device. I had that on my Note7 and it was great...lol, but we all know how it turned out with the Note7's.
 
It's probably unlikely but I'm hoping they surprise us with the new iPad updates next week as well.

Keeping my fingers crossed too. Though didn't they just bump the Mini's storage without making major tech changes recently?
 
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Im on vacation in december, so a new mini pro would be just dandy. I fear i buy a mini 4 it'll be superseded within half a year.
But we dont know for sure there will be a pro model (a9+) with pencil so what to do instead, go for the 9.7? I cant make up my mind, just find mini2 too slow and apps crashing which never happened in ios7 (2013). Refurb mini4 on Apple UK are about £80 cheaper than new but is it really worth it?!
 
My Mini 4 works just great. I have no issues with it. Safari will hold a surprising amount of tabs in memory without a problem, even when running split screen mode with something like Procreate with the maximum layers that Procreate allows on a 2 gig device. It gets a bit warm when I do that, but no crashes. It's a great device despite being a slightly "nerfed" Air 2 which is already an old device where IT hardware is concerned. I would not want to pay full price for it today though and I would absolutely wait until friday next week... just in case.
 
But we dont know for sure there will be a pro model (a9+) with pencil so what to do instead, go for the 9.7? I cant make up my mind, just find mini2 too slow and apps crashing which never happened in ios7 (2013). Refurb mini4 on Apple UK are about £80 cheaper than new but is it really worth it?!
Correct. We just dont know. If ever even. And no, a 9.7 regular sizer certainly isnt on my agenda. Never had a mini and would love one. If they dont announce one next week, which is most doubtful, i'll await until spring, then buy whatever mini is best at the time even if it's a 4.

To be honest, it's tempting to buy an iphone 7+ instead, even though im not a phone user :p
 
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To be honest, it's tempting to buy an iphone 7+ instead, even though im not a phone user :p

I have the Mini 4 and the iPhone 6+. The Mini 4 is actually significantly bigger. In fact, from my comparisons, the difference between the 6+ and the Mini 4 is greater than the difference between the 9.7 and 12.9 iPad Pro. In addition to that, it will run all iPad apps (since it's an iPad - doh) and even do split screen.

I primarily use my 6+ when I'm out and about, at work etc. At home, I nearly always use the Mini. It's just more pleasant to use and I don't think going from a 6+ to a 7+ would change that. It's the screen size that makes the difference. If I'm going somewhere that requires going with public transportation for 1 hour total or more, I'll stick the Mini in the inner pocket of my jacket. It's a bit of a squeeze, but it fits. Having said that, if I ever have to make a choice of only *one* mobile device, I'll pick the iPhone Plus over the Mini. I can more easily live without an iPad, than I can without a smartphone.
 
I have the Mini 4 and the iPhone 6+. The Mini 4 is actually significantly bigger. In fact, from my comparisons, the difference between the 6+ and the Mini 4 is greater than the difference between the 9.7 and 12.9 iPad Pro. In addition to that, it will run all iPad apps (since it's an iPad - doh) and even do split screen.

I primarily use my 6+ when I'm out and about, at work etc. At home, I nearly always use the Mini. It's just more pleasant to use and I don't think going from a 6+ to a 7+ would change that. It's the screen size that makes the difference. If I'm going somewhere that requires going with public transportation for 1 hour total or more, I'll stick the Mini in the inner pocket of my jacket. It's a bit of a squeeze, but it fits. Having said that, if I ever have to make a choice of only *one* mobile device, I'll pick the iPhone Plus over the Mini. I can more easily live without an iPad, than I can without a smartphone.

This is why I don't understand when people say that large phones replace small tablets. There's still a rather significant difference in my opinion.
 
This is why I don't understand when people say that large phones replace small tablets. There's still a rather significant difference in my opinion.

For me it was a case of the bigger phones being the newer device at the time, and just out of interest I used the phones more than the iPad we have at home. After a while my useage switched back to being more focused on iPad.
 
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but can you read pdfs on the mini? isn't it too small?

Most of the PDFs I read are arranged in a 2-column layout. I find it very comfortable to read PDFs that have this layout on the mini. Just double tap on the column you're reading and it will expand to the width of the screen. The resulting font size is very comfortable with the iPad in portrait orientation and no need to scroll left-right whilst you're reading the column.

If a PDF is arranged in a 1-column layout sometimes (not always) I find the text a bit small when that column is zoomed to the width of the screen with the iPad in portrait orientation. When this I happens I usually resort to viewing the document in landscape orientation so I can increase the zoom a bit more and still avoid scrolling left-right whilst reading the page.
 
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iPad Mini is the only model that has not been release as a Pro yet! Maybe it will be release at this October 25th event!
 
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Most of the PDFs I read are arranged in a 2-column layout. I find it very comfortable to read PDFs that have this layout on the mini. Just double tap on the column you're reading and it will expand to the width of the screen. The resulting font size is very comfortable with the iPad in portrait orientation and no need to scroll left-right whilst you're reading the column.

If a PDF is arranged in a 1-column layout sometimes (not always) I find the text a bit small when that column is zoomed to the width of the screen with the iPad in portrait orientation. When this I happens I usually resort to viewing the document in landscape orientation so I can increase the zoom a bit more and still avoid scrolling left-right whilst reading the page.


Thank you for sharing your experience.
I bought the 12.9in IPP but it feels too big and too heavy for studying. I am considering buying a smaller iPad, the main use will be studying scientific articles in pdf format. I am in a dilemma between the 9.7 and the 7.9.
7.9 can be held with one hand, but the screen is smaller and I don't know whether this would degrade the whole experience.
 
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Me too. Still using my mini 2. The moment it was released, I sold off my regular sized iPads and never buy anymore iPads afterwards. The mini form factor made it more portable, thus increases its utilization for me. The A7 is getting a bit old though, and the A8 on the mini 4 (not the A8X) is not leaps and bounds better in performance.

I hope Apple updated the mini with an A9/10 mini Pro. I really want the pencil support (can truly make the iPad mini into a totally digital classic notebook). The regular sized iPads, although thin, are still too "big" for me for on-the-go use.
 
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iPad Mini is the only model that has not been release as a Pro yet! Maybe it will be release at this October 25th event!

I could see that happening, but... I don't think it'll have the quad speakers then or the smart connector for that matter (which would be kinda useless at that size anyway). We would have seen some leaks by now since that would require a major redesign of the body and accessories.
 
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iPad Mini is the only model that has not been release as a Pro yet! Maybe it will be release at this October 25th event!

Like I said leading up to the September event, if a new iPad was launching there would be leaks and persistent rumours by now. So far all the rumours suggest new iPads in the Spring or late Winter.
 
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Personally I love the mini. The only thing that would make it better (for me) would be Pencil support and a 256gb option. I really hope to see that soon.
 
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I dont see Apple doing a mini pro unless they leave out the ASK, it would be so small and mostly unusable at that size, but a mini pencil would be nice!
 
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I would like to see an Ipad Mini Pro, or Ipad Pro 7.9". I just use one device, as my ipad mini 2 has a cell data modem, and I use freetone app for phone calls, voicemail, and texting non-apple devices.

There are many reasons why I am interested.
1) I do use my ipad for photos and video. I use a small tripod when shooting video usually. The ipad mini makes a great viewfinder. I would welcome the much improved still camera, video camera, and flash that that pro has.
2) Like others have mentioned, a smaller ipad with pencil support is much like the old reporters notebook kind of thing. Making notes when you are out would be handy. Drawing might be better off on a larger device, but if that larger device is left at home, and you are out, it would be cool to draw on the mini that you have with you.
3) I would enjoy the updated hardware. The gamut on my mini 2 is limited. You don't normally notice it, however. But when it is next to an ipad air or air 2 or newer model, you can see the limits. Also, the mini 2 is quite reflective. The newer screen would be great. Wireless AC and improved Cell data rates are things that I would enjoy too as I don't like waiting for web pages to load. The faster processor and additional ram over my mini 2 would be noticeable too.

That being said, the mini 2 performance only really suffered when playing Game of War, Fire Age, as that app has gotten huge. My solution: give my accounts away to my alliance members, delete the app, and keep MZ out of my wallet.

Otherwise, the performance is fine.

I got this ipad after the mini 3 came out. It was clear that it was not worth the addional money over the 2. Apple sold off it's stock of replacement 128Gb mini 2s as that size was no longer sold. I got mine for half of what a mini 3 128 gig cell data modem version would cost at the apple store.

This would probably be the only reason to NOT get an ipad pro 7.9, the additional cost. In Canada, the pro 9.7 is $300 CAN more than the air 2 and mini 4. Getting the pricepoint right will be key.
 
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