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They don't use batteries anymore. You plug it in to a port.

You didn't get the point, if they still using AA battery, you can still change it. But now, if the internal recharagble battery (yes, there is a battery inside, please don't tell me that you believe the Apple's magic which the magic keyboard has no battery) failed, you can't change it.
 
^^ would buy one with touch bar. Almost to the point of not needing a laptop any more -

I don't see the point of having a touchbar on a desktop keyboard. It's great on a laptop when you can see the screen, touchbar and keyboard all at the same time; if you touch type, you surely don't want to be looking away from your screen and down at the desk to pick an emoji rather than simply avert your gaze slightly on the MacBook.
 
Score one for AMD. Hope they get a massive infusion of cash with this - I would love to see them competing everywhere again, and not just on price.
I don't see the point of having a touchbar on a desktop keyboard. It's great on a laptop when you can see the screen, touchbar and keyboard all at the same time; if you touch type, you surely don't want to be looking away from your screen and down at the desk to pick an emoji rather than simply avert your gaze slightly on the MacBook.
Mainly for troubleshooting / client support. Got a ton of stuff I don't actually need, but clients do, so I have to be intimately familiar with them too.
 
They're so magical, so much so, that when you finally need change the batteries, you'll have to toss it.

By the time that happens many, many, many years down the road, you'll likely want a new keyboard anyway because the keys will be too worn on the one you have (I got about 4 years out of my first AL keyboard before the keys had eroded / faded to the point I just replaced it).


People who use these kinds of keyboards: https://www.editorskeys.com/

My wired and Magic keyboards look identical in key dimension and location so I would expect them to work. And if they don't, do you really believe they will not update for the Magic keyboard?
 
By the time that happens many, many, many years down the road, you'll likely want a new keyboard anyway because the keys will be too worn on the one you have (I got about 4 years out of my first AL keyboard before the keys had eroded / faded to the point I just replaced it).




My wired and Magic keyboards look identical in key dimension and location so I would expect them to work. And if they don't, do you really believe they will not update for the Magic keyboard?

I don't agree. My Apple wired keyboard has been used since 2009, and now still working like day 1. It doesn't even get too dirty, just wipe it with a moisturised cloth, it also looks pretty new.

In fact, my very 1st PC keyboard still working (since 1994). I really don't see why a good quality keyboard will be retired in just few years.
 
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I don't agree. My Apple wired keyboard has been used since 2009, and now still working like day 1. It doesn't even get too dirty, just wipe it with a moisturised cloth, it also looks pretty new.

I found the material the keys are made of had eroded a bit after many years of use on the most-used keys (the characters were still legible), so I replaced it a couple of years back.
 
I found the material the keys are made of had eroded a bit after many years of use on the most-used keys (the characters were still legible), so I replaced it a couple of years back.
Learn to touch type - there's no need for writing on the keys (or back-lighting).

Worked for me.
 
All you need are the tactile feedback features on "f" and "j" - the rest is motor memory.

that works for typing.. if you're using a lot of keystrokes to drive an application, not so much..
all heavy keystroke users glance down at the keyboard on occasion ..
i'll even be so bold to say "ALL heavy keystroke users glance down at the keyboard" :)
 
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You didn't get the point, if they still using AA battery, you can still change it. But now, if the internal recharagble battery (yes, there is a battery inside, please don't tell me that you believe the Apple's magic which the magic keyboard has no battery) failed, you can't change it.

Oh, so instead of using it forever, you're limited to only, say, about 25 years.

Some of you really seem to have a pathological need to invent things to complain about. I've owned my Magic Mouse 2 for about a year and a half. I use it often. I've only ever had to charge it a handful of times in those 18 months. Given that a typical battery lasts about 1000 cycles in a hot laptop or smartphone, or more, I'm quite certain this mouse's battery will outlive its useful life.

I'd joke about complaining about the wireless keyboard next, but I see someone has already done that recently on here, which almost defies belief. That needs about 2 charges a year, at that rate you may only get a few hundred years of use out of it before the battery starts to tank...

Had about enough of the Luddite insanity that seems to plague, ironically, a tech site...
 
cool, that means i'll only have to charge one a handful of times.

Realistically, that may very well be true. I purchased the Matias Wireless Aluminum keyboard and that has a 1600mAh battery and they claim it will go a full year between charges (I am guessing if you turn it off when not in use). The shorter Magic Keyboard has a 793 mAh battery (so half the capacity) and in real-world use lasts about 3 months between charges (with it always on). Assuming Apple uses a larger battery in the Magic Keyboard with Number Pad, then we're probably looking at up to 6 months of use.
 
Oh, so instead of using it forever, you're limited to only, say, about 25 years.

Some of you really seem to have a pathological need to invent things to complain about. I've owned my Magic Mouse 2 for about a year and a half. I use it often. I've only ever had to charge it a handful of times in those 18 months. Given that a typical battery lasts about 1000 cycles in a hot laptop or smartphone, or more, I'm quite certain this mouse's battery will outlive its useful life.

I'd joke about complaining about the wireless keyboard next, but I see someone has already done that recently on here, which almost defies belief. That needs about 2 charges a year, at that rate you may only get a few hundred years of use out of it before the battery starts to tank...

Had about enough of the Luddite insanity that seems to plague, ironically, a tech site...

Wow. How many hours-per-day does that keyboard get used? I'm honestly curious because when I found that the Magic Keyboards' batteries can't be swapped-out, that was a deal-killer for me, although I liked the "flatter" way that the keyboard rests. (I use Panasonic and Eneloop rechargeable AA's for my Apple aluminum BT keyboard and my Logitech M510. That's 2 AA's each and the charge and use lasts about 8 weeks.)

Maybe the battery in the Magic Keyboard is enormous. Certainly, the power switch (if it has one) may fail before other parts, with the exception being the space bar. FWIW, in 25 years the Bluetooth spec will probably have shifted a few times. https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/bluetooth-core-specification/deprecated-specifications

We ain't complainin', we're explainin'...
 
By the time that happens many, many, many years down the road, you'll likely want a new keyboard anyway because the keys will be too worn on the one you have (I got about 4 years out of my first AL keyboard before the keys had eroded / faded to the point I just replaced it).




My wired and Magic keyboards look identical in key dimension and location so I would expect them to work. And if they don't, do you really believe they will not update for the Magic keyboard?

Please post a link for a backlit, wireless Avid/Pro Tools keyboard. That would be awesome, and I would convert today.
 
Xeon W announced, socket 2066 upto 18 cores. X with some WS tweaks (ECC...)
C422 similar to X299, a expected. But the naming is a bit misleading. Makes W look like other Xeons that don't really relate.
Anyway, good for mMP.
 
Xeon W announced, socket 2066 upto 18 cores. X with some WS tweaks (ECC...)
C422 similar to X299, a expected. But the naming is a bit misleading. Makes W look like other Xeons that don't really relate.
Anyway, good for mMP.

I think the modular Mac Pro will be using Purley Xeons with the LGA3647 socket (probably in single and dual CPU configurations).
 
Maybe, but I highly doubt it. iMac Pro will use these for sure. But dual socket again with Apple seem unlikely to me.
But hey, that's just me right?!
Hope I'm wrong though.
 
Maybe, but I highly doubt it. iMac Pro will use these for sure. But dual socket again with Apple seem unlikely to me.

I think Apple is going to shoot for the moon with MP 7,1 and allow it to be configured from "powerful" to "insane". And that means Purley Xeons and, IMO, the option for two of them.
 
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