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MP 7,1 Waiting for Mac Pro 7,1 A1991 (no more)

AidenShaw said:
Even better, Apple should face the music and realize that the v2 processors and ancient GPUs in the MP6,1 aren't going to be available much longer. (Intel's stopped making v2 CPUs, and is selling inventory.)

Update the MP6,1 to a newer generation Core i7 (maybe X) and one newer generation ATI GPU with an option for dual GPU. Add T-Bolt 3 and USB 3.1. Motherboards are cheap to make.

But you're right - it makes too much sense for Apple to actually do it.
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I have a dream of single Xeon dual GV100. Hooked up to every sensor in my home, just to see what patterns they make of all the traffic, then conduct it accordingly. Hell, make the whole thing mil spec just designed to crunch data in harsh environments nonstop for years. Ha! I can almost see these taking on the role of trusty astro droids like R2D2.

Mikael H said:
I've seriously considered the viability of a low-to-mid-range spec nMP for home use, combining the ability to run a few relatively lightly loaded VMs (lifting them from my current AMD Turion-based Linux server) with running my most common tasks, all on a single machine. The current main drawback for that scenario is, of course, still paying retail price for 2013 vintage hardware.
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Sounds like for your use, you couldn't tell the difference between a loaded 2010 ----> 2017 VM server if they all had sufficient cores, RAM, SSD, and network thrown at them. If the nMP allows you to play on hardware you like, I wouldn't let raw performance numbers or price dictate my choice.

The hardware's nice, the OS is nice. Really no performance drawbacks here. Buy what you want to play with.
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AidenShaw said:
The cheese grater case is very large for what it delivers (like only 4 HDD mounts and only 4 PCIe slots). And its handles are uncomfortably sharp.
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And the fact that those 4 PCIe slots are neither sufficiently spaced nor powered for 4 full sized GPUs is a real problem. I think it'll be addressed in 7,1.
 
The thing with multi GPU setups is your use case and software has to support it. It really depends on what you are doing. Some of the video editing softwares support it. I know in the gaming community everyone was a bit shocked when Nvidia stopped supporting 3 and 4 way SLI.
 
Flint Ironstag said:
Sounds like for your use, you couldn't tell the difference between a loaded 2010 ----> 2017 VM server if they all had sufficient cores, RAM, SSD, and network thrown at them. If the nMP allows you to play on hardware you like, I wouldn't let raw performance numbers or price dictate my choice.

The hardware's nice, the OS is nice. Really no performance drawbacks here. Buy what you want to play with.
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I’ll still wait for a refreshed model, hoping for a user replaceable graphics card option. With that I could pretty much trash my virtual lab and my X-Plane sim PC that’s getting slightly long in the tooth now. Less noise, less combined power draw, nicer looks, and less pulling out and replacing audio devices in my MBP. What’s not to like? :)
 
My point regarding the "2009 chassis" -yes, it's a product of its' time, and i too hate those handles.

Basically, give us a frickin' upgradable tower that doesn't need bespoke apple parts. We don't really need a thing of beauty, just something that runs osx proper.
 
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While we're waiting, here are the specs for the Dell Precision 5820. It's a single socket Xeon-W with 8 dimm slots, and either a 425W or 950W powersupply. I think they will be available to order sometime in October.
 
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antonis said:
Isn't that word forbidden in apple land and replaced by the word "courage" ? (Apple's edition of newspeak)
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There's a chance for legacy style USB ports (but with a launch a year from now even that's iffy.) I wouldn't count on anything else.

It just honestly isn't even worth getting excited about the chance for any other sort of port. Firewire, SATA, optical bays... Just not happening.

If they do PCI-E GPUs maybe you'll have non Thunderbolt video ports on the card.
 
spoonie1972 said:
Seriously, don't care if it looks new or cool. Just gimme power, legacy+new ports, ACCESS, and upgradability.
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antonis said:
Isn't that word forbidden in apple land and replaced by the word "courage" ? (Apple's edition of newspeak)
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goMac said:
There's a chance for legacy style USB ports (but with a launch a year from now even that's iffy.) I wouldn't count on anything else.
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Legacy ports are a given for the next Mac Pro since the new iMac has them as will the iMac Pro.
 
pat500000 said:
What do you mean legacy port?
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That means anything that is currently being sold - like USB-A.

Apple likes to "jump the gun" on port changes, and produce computers that have ports that nothing that is currently being sold can connect to.

And then selling you $20 to $100 dongles to adapt the new port to devices that you already have and can buy today.

Classic example of up-sell, without actually being up-sell.
 
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AidenShaw said:
That means anything that is currently being sold - like USB-A.

Apple likes to "jump the gun" on port changes, and produce computers that have ports that nothing that is currently being sold can connect to.

And then selling you $20 to $100 dongles to adapt the new port to devices that you already have and can buy today.

Classic example of up-sell, without actually being up-sell.
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I see. Tim cook is legacy pimp. What cwallace said...mac pro 2018 might have legacy ports?
 
I am starting to think this legacy thing is getting a bit overblown. You can get cables with whatever connection you want these days. Most things have removable cables these days. I think the only time it's a huge problem is if you have something with a permanent cable. Or if you often have to go into places not knowing what plugs you will encounter. In that case I say be prepared.

Sure it a pain to buy new cables but it's not the end of the world. The rapture is not going to happen due to lack of a port.
 
William Payne said:
I am starting to think this legacy thing is getting a bit overblown. You can get cables with whatever connection you want these days. Most things have removable cables these days. I think the only time it's a huge problem is if you have something with a permanent cable. Or if you often have to go into places not knowing what plugs you will encounter. In that case I say be prepared.
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I think the biggest issue right now is the newness of USB-C resulting in a fair bit of the cables, adapters and docks either working poorly or not at all with some legacy hardware (including Apple's like the wired Al keyboard). A lot of the cables (especially Chinese-sourced) do not fully (or at all) comply with the USB consortium specs (for both -A and -C) and even ones that do can still randomly poop-the-bed, requiring one or more connect/disconnect cycles.

Within a year or so most of these bugs will be worked out (as they were with USB-A 1.0 / 2.0 /3.0) and product reviews will separate the wheat from the chaff in terms of quality, but for now, I can understand the frustration people with current-model Mac laptops are experiencing when they have no option due to the machines being USB-C only.
 
pat500000 said:
I see. Tim cook is legacy pimp.
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Take it with a grain of salt:

Next Apple Announcements Event set for Late October, Items to launch/introduce:

  • A 'Super' Pro Macbook: configurable upto 32GB Ram, Vega 11 mobile, discrete SSD, thicker than current MBP.
  • Updated Mac mini, mini-server (???**)
  • Magic Keyboard 'Pro' (touchbar/butterfly rv3 sw).
  • Release/Pre-order dates for iMac Pro
  • Sneak-Peek on the Monster Modular Mac Pro 7,1 (release Q3 2018), dual socket, quad-gpu capable (???**), Full Liquid (or passive phase change) Cooled, STD GPUs, quad-NVMe, Maybe Full AMD Inside, PSU from 600-1200W ...
(**) ???=> take extra load of salt, then eat a spicy jalapeno.

I miss,: the source also cites a Mini-iPad pro... I even didnt care to consider it plausible, whatever
 
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Mago said:
Take it with a grain of salt:

Next Apple Announcements Event set for Late October
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The only thing they would have to show in time for October is HomePod and iMac Pro. Doubt we'll see another update to MBPs this year. Unlikely we'll see an update to the Mac mini or peek at Mac Pro either. If MBPs don't get updated, there just isn't enough content at hand for them to even warrant an October event.
 
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